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Baffled bird migration

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posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 02:14 PM
reply to post by tribewilder

Couldn't agree with you more
I am orginally from Northern Ontario.

I currently live in Spain, right at the southern tip, on the Costa Del Sol. We arrived in March, just in time to see the worst winter on record end. According to the locals, it rained constantly for three months with fridgid temps. We are only about 18km off the coast of Africa, warm weather is always expected here.

Right now I am freezing my buns off, it gets frosty at night and since the whole dam place is made of stone and marble, its not easy keeping warm. I guess the builders just thought it was always going to be hot!

In the summer the stone and marble came in handy. In August the temps rose to about 50 degrees.

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 02:20 PM
sorry,,, but your from "Northern Ontario" and your freezing your buns off?? Been away from home long? lol ur Canadian. don't be saying its cold at 50 degrees ,,! sorry lol

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 02:22 PM
reply to post by Kantele

I have also noticed this just last week, during a several day period, that the birds were all flying utterly erratically. They usually join up in a VEE formation and head out, but they seemed very confused and kept breaking ranks, circling back, some would break away singly, seeming so confused.

I know that I noted this for a reason when I saw it over several days, while out driving, the same exact thing kept occurring.

So now you've gotten my complete attention here, as I too noticed this just this past week...

I thought there may be an earthquake coming, or some electromagnetic disturbance, or SOMETHING that was causing these LARGE troops of birds to fly in such erratic patterns.

I am in the mid-western United States where it's just beginning to become colder, and the birds USUALLY fly away at this time, but there was NOTHING USUAL about their crazy behavior!!!

I did get a little scared one of those days, when so many hundreds of black birds were swooping down just in front of my car, and it reminded me of a scene from that old Alfred Hitchcock movie "The Birds."

edit on 25-11-2010 by maceov because: Left something out here

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 02:25 PM
reply to post by BobAthome

LOL...I know, always getting into s*** for that one! Your right, probably shouldn't complain too much

However, in my defense, its a different kind of cold here. Like chilled right to the bone! We wake up in the morning and it feels as though the sheets and bed spreads are damp.

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 02:25 PM
reply to post by maceov

Geez i remember that "tippy hendren" right,, no do use google,, get those memory cells perculating !

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 02:28 PM
reply to post by sonia74

No your right cold is cold no matter where u are, was just teasing
,,especially past 50! ,,, ahh youth,, going to school in winter with our coats open, in a snowstorm,, yup canadian

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 02:29 PM
reply to post by facchino

Wow...that's rellay weird...birds just dropping dead...seems like something toxic is on the air.

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 02:50 PM
This events remind me of this Homeland Ad...

It's better to be prepared for anything that might come.

Watched the Ad again, and is incredible that only 1000 viewers have visited the video!!!! Don't want to know how many views the newest Lady Gaga's song has... what a shame.

edit on 25-11-2010 by Kantele because: (no reason given)

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 02:59 PM

Originally posted by BobAthome
sorry,,, but your from "Northern Ontario" and your freezing your buns off?? Been away from home long? lol ur Canadian. don't be saying its cold at 50 degrees ,,! sorry lol hasn't been 50 degrees here for over a month..its 27F right now with a windchill of 18F.

that's -2C and -8C respectively

a temperature of 50F would be a freakin heat wave here....

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 03:20 PM
reply to post by Kantele

Thanks for your comments. I didn't give much of my opinion about the birds in my first post as I was more focused on posting some references. Now I'd like to say that while I agree with you that some birds are perhaps not seeing their way as they used to, there could well be other factors at work here that are confusing them.

It's fairly well known that the north magnetic pole (which actually has south polarity) is moving and has been doing so for a long time. (The south magnetic pole is also moving.) It's possible that in the past, birds and other migratory animals that sense magnetic fields to guide them on their way, were able to adjust for this movement as it was fairly gradual. However, from what I've been reading lately, there is a body of empirical evidence that this movement is speeding up, when compared with past records of magnetic north's location year-on-year. And this could mean that some migratory animals are not able to adequately compensate and are getting lost and confused.

However, as I said, even these magnetic variations on their own might not be enough to throw the birds off course. The rather variable weather in many places -- as also anecdotally reported here by ATS members -- could also be a factor. On its own this variation might be something they could deal with, but when combined with the increasing rate of movement of the magnetic field it could be overwhelming their abilities to navigate.

Then there is the increasing amount of human-created EM radiation all over the place. The transmitter towers and repeaters that are used to broadcast various frequencies for mobile phones, TV, radio and so on, along with such things as meterological radar... Who knows? If some of these animals are also sensitive to some of these frequencies, it would just make their lives even more difficult.

Put it this way: I can't imagine that all the extra energy we are throwing into the atmosphere every second of every day can be of any real benefit to birds and other sensitive animals. They are now getting bombarded with a huge range of frequencies at levels of intensity that didn't even exist a century ago.

Now, some observations from here in the Czech Republic. In regards to animals and the weather, I have a few items to share. One is from August. My wife and I spent a couple of weeks at a friend's cottage in a small town in the west of the country, and the weather was rather cool for the time of year. Most days were well under 20 deg C, when normally we'd expect about 10 deg C warmer than that. It often rained and was pretty miserable weather for what's supposed to be summer. But the oddest thing was that the swallows were already flocking, which they always do prior to heading off on their annual migration.

We talked to the old lady across the road, who had lived in the town her whole life. (Not sure of her age but her daughter's already on an aged pension so she had to be pushing eighty at least. Still sharp as a tack, too.) She told us that whenever these birds flocked early it meant that a hard winter was coming. However, she'd never seen them flock that early and she was very concerned.

A couple of days later she told us that she'd ordered extra firewood for winter.

I've learned the hard way that it pays to take notice of older folks who know more about things like this than I do, so I'm expecting this winter will not be better than the last one, which turned out to be the hardest we've had here in quite a few years.

Now here's the other side, the really confusing side of all this. Last weekend my wife and I were at our own cottage in the Czech Highlands (Ceska Vysocina). It was chilly but not really cold, and no snow was around. Just rain. So we went for a walk by the lake that's just a couple of minutes from the cottage. And there, we saw a large frog slowly making its way across the road. When it saw us it "froze" as some frogs do, so I picked it up and we took it over to the grass by the lake. And we could hear more frogs, croaking away. It was a weird feeling because we've never seen or heard frogs this late in the season. I mean, there are virtually no flying bugs around for them to eat at this time, which is why they're normally burrowed down deep in the ground and hibernating.

So -- the swallows left at least a month early, but the frogs are still out. It's all mixed up. Even compared to just a decade ago, things are simply not normal here. To relate it to what other members have been saying in this thread and elsewhere, it's not like we can just look at data for weather, or just review past records for bird migrations or whatever. It's all changing and the variables and whys and wherefores are now getting too complex for us to ascribe a single cause.

It's just all messed up.


edit on 25/11/10 by JustMike because: Oh tempores, Oh mores, O typos!!

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 03:33 PM

Originally posted by Cherryontop
reply to post by Romantic_Rebel

I have noticed very similar things here. I'm in the Great Lakes area, and never ever this late in the year have I had birds chirping outside my window in the morning. This is normally only something that happens during spring and summer. Yet for the past three weeks, I have heard them every morning. There's an unusual amount of all varieties of birds here still as well.
We also had a ridiculous acorn season this year.

im in germany and have been a couple of years now and we too had an incredible amount of acorns massive too which usually means itll be a cold winter "aparently" lol

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 04:53 PM
Well I live and have grown up on a farm. My father had said once that you can tell how cold the season will be by looking at the fur on the cattle.

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 06:20 PM

Originally posted by Kantele
reply to post by facchino

Wow...that's rellay weird...birds just dropping dead...seems like something toxic is on the air.

Birds dropping dead? Could you elaborate on this weird one?

I personally believe we live in the end we know it of course. I'm a fan of these 2012 prophecies and pole shift theories...everything that is currently happening in the world adds up to these theories...they're so accurate! This bird thing is a big indicative the weird predicted things may be the truth, actually.

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 06:56 PM
reply to post by Kantele

Well if this means anything. A very low population this year of the Sandhill-Cranes that migrates to New Mexico, USA. Where are the rest of them? I see lots of them every year, but not as many this year. I suspect the oil spill and the Corexit dispersant sprayed all over the place has the birds going the wrong way. I myself figured this would affect the migratory patterns this year. Glad someone else posted this information The Sandhill cranes probably flew on by to the Mexican coast completely missing New Mexico their winter home.
I was wondering what could have happened? The rest might be in Mexico, never thought of that. I was thinking crazy hunters at first, then I thought could corexit be lingering in our atmosphere, could that be the cause?

The most recent and logical explanation I can think of is the Corexit spray introduced to their environment.

edit on 25-11-2010 by SJE98 because: (no reason given)

edit on 25-11-2010 by SJE98 because: (no reason given)

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 07:21 PM
reply to post by Kantele

Were taking too much land from them - theres 4 red tail hawks living across the a river from me fighting over the boundries -

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 07:32 PM
hey Bob@home
we canadians know how to stay warm
put us buck nekkid in a snowbank and we freeze just like anyone else...

though i have seen a video of Tennesseeans tring to melt road ice by spinning their tires...
nothing like stone or metal and dampness to suck the heat right out of your bones...
Sounds like a good time for a good glass of brandy( for breakfast too, if required) and an eight hour hug Sonya

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 07:38 PM
reply to post by Danbones

Ya i hate when fingers start to thaw,,, dam!

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Kantele

Birds migration is very disturbing

Las aves migratorias y playeras han retrasado su llegada al sur de Sinaloa, y mientras éstas no se ven, otras han arribado fuera de tiempo y otras más, nunca vistas, comienzan a anidar aquí en áreas de reserva natural.
Durante una caminata de al menos seis kilómetros por la Meseta de Cacaxtla, el investigador Marco Antonio González Bernal, miembro de la organización civil Pronatura, consideró que hay un desequilibrio natural, pues en horario de avistamiento encontró pocas especies.
(visit the link for the full news article)

SPRECHEN SIE ENGLISH. Dunno what ta hep yo all sayan mon. Yo mon,wha cha talk about, no sense at all mon.

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 07:45 PM
I embedded the video for more people to see. This ad has always disturbed me since it was aired.

What do you get by: "what if a disaster strikes WITHOUT WARNING"

is this actually possible apart from a sudden pole shift? or asteroid/planet collision??

Maybe they just wanted to sound dramatic or maybe they're sending an "encrypted" warning.

posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 07:55 PM
reply to post by Kantele

Well the gravity thing would be kind of cool,, the flip could also be slow and gentle, maybe ,,,

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