How can the earth be millions of yrs old and we can't find a tree over 10K yrs old?, page 2


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reply posted on 23-11-2010 @ 08:30 PM by OldThinker
Originally posted by mr-lizard
en.wikipedia.org...

Over time, the chemical and physical properties of the plant remains (believed to mainly have been fern-like species antedating more modern plant and tree species) were changed by geological action to create a solid material.


Trees die, tectonic plates shift, climates change, the raw material of the ex tree is compressed into the earth, broken down and crushed into coal over thousands of years.

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Statistically that doesn't add up to me...only one.... (1)........ tree made it past 10K out of 100's of millions of them?


reply posted on 23-11-2010 @ 08:35 PM by sceptical me
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Well, following your line of reasoning. The bible mentions many people of advanced years such as Methusulah. Why can't we find a man older than 150 years old? Is it that the Earth is in fact younger than 150 years old? Ooh, the intrigue!


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reply posted on 23-11-2010 @ 08:35 PM by defcon5
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

There is evidence of trees dating much further back then 10K years, but as any organism on earth, they have a lifespan. With the oldest living tree listed as being 6000 years old (Sunland Baobab). There is plenty of evidence of petrified trees dating back millions of years:

Petrified National Forest
The Petrified Forest is known for its fossils, especially fallen trees, that lived in the Late Triassic, about 225 million years ago.


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reply posted on 23-11-2010 @ 08:37 PM by mr-lizard
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Maybe, but you seem to forget that many creatures have also died, some have survived. It's like you asking why there are no dinosaurs now...

Different climates, events, atmospheric gas types, etc.


reply posted on 23-11-2010 @ 08:42 PM by ManBehindTheMask
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in the timeline of the earth? Yeah i would say we are a fairly recent addition.......

The earth has cycles tho, so who is to say how many civilizations have come and gone.....the time frame of the ancient planet to now, is a huge chasm of time.......many things can come and go and be wiped clean in that span


reply posted on 23-11-2010 @ 08:43 PM by OldThinker
Originally posted by sceptical me
Well, following your line of reasoning. The bible mentions many people of advanced years such as Methusulah. Why can't we find a man older than 150 years old? Is it that the Earth is in fact younger than 150 years old? Ooh, the intrigue!


Remember not to copy HUGE quotes in the thread ok?

Good question...if you want to know the answer it is here...there are some good statistics...run charts...time-series plots used....I just don't know how to cut and paste them well, sorry...

Here: www.biblestudy.org...

Short answer...it was THE FLOOD...

Conclusions Regarding Age of Biblical Patriarchs (OLD OLD Testament dudes)

•The information source (divine revelation) for the ages of the patriarchs provides ages that closely matches a natural exponential equation.

•It is highly unlikely that people living at this time knew the mathematics of the exponential decay curve.

•It is very unlikely that the ages were fabricated since they closely match the naturally occurring exponential decay curve.

•The ages when the patriarchs died show that the post-genesis flood world was being affected by some natural factors that were causing declining life spans.

All of these factor indicate that the ages of the Biblical patriarchs were genuine and not fabrications.


reply posted on 23-11-2010 @ 08:45 PM by Sahabi
reply to post by OldThinker


Hello. Thank you for sharing these trees with me.
I'm not here for the debate, I have my own understandings/beliefs.

But I do find the link extremely wonderful!!!
Tree trunks bend and twist during growth to avoid any obstacles in order to get a better "tanning spot."
Trees move and adjust their leaves throughout the day to follow the sun.
Deciduous trees [hibernate] shed their leaves in the autumn and regrow in the spring.
They absorb [drink] water and absorb [eat] organic minerals.
They breathe in and exhale.

I believe trees are sentient beings and aware of existence.
I feel it is awe-inspiring and amazing these guys have managed to live such long lives.
If they could tell their story, what a tale it would be!
I hope there are efforts in place to protect these guys.


reply posted on 23-11-2010 @ 08:48 PM by Danbones
The Canadian Shield
The metamorphic base rocks are mostly from the Precambrian Era (between 4.5 billion and 540 million years ago),

en.wikipedia.org...

Its hard to argue with something I am standing on
The reason there are no really old trees here is because the type of trees that grow to those kind of ages grow here...
between glaciations,
which have scraped the rock bare every so many thousand year cycle
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