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With TSA Under Fire, Is Racial Profiling on the Table?

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posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 08:23 PM
reply to post by Dr. Strange

Rounding up and interning Japanese-Americans absolutely did not stop further attacks on America. Japanese Americans did not attack Pearl Harbor, the Japanese military did. While there were indeed spies for Japan in America, there was no justification for interning every Japanese-American.

A secret U.S. government estimate said perhaps 3,500 ethnic Japanese in America were active supporters of the Japanese war effort. After the war, Japan said that 1,648 Japanese-American citizens had fought in Japan's Army. Other estimates set the number as high as 7,000. In 1944, when the United States gave American Japanese a chance to renounce their U.S. citizenship, some 5,620 did so, and 2,031 left for Japan.

So because of seven thousand people (at the very highest), 110,000 were forced to give up their homes and property and shipped to concentration camps.

What you are suggesting is that we remain suspicious of every Muslim-American, because of what 19 non-Americans did on 9/11 and what a few Americans did in the years following.

Utterly ludicrous to even suggest we revert to that backward way of thinking employed during WW2.

posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 08:44 PM
Racial Profiling should not be on the table, and if it is we might as well piss on the rest of the Constitution and the foundations this nation was built on (although you could easily make a case that it's already too late). The entire idea of this nation was that we will risk our safety for the sake of freedom, and considering it is the Government (Federal at that) that is the agency of transportation safety, they may not break the Constitution.

Additionally, who cares what the majority of American's want honestly. If most American's wanted to break the Constitution (without amending it), well, tough luck. You can't and shouldn't do it.

On the other hand, if we had been smart and not reacted like little frightened girls the first time American blood was spilled on our soil in a while, we would have seen that it should be the airline companies and airports themselves that need to secure their facilities and aircraft. Putting the Government in charge simply removes practicality and exposes the security procedures to Constitutional guidelines.

We have become cowards and soft, especially on the liberty front. We have a murder rate many times higher than the next nation in line, so I think I'll take my chances with private security funded by the airport and the airlines over the government.

posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 09:11 PM

Originally posted by BiGGz
Those people who voted "Yes, I support racial and all other types of profiling if they make air travel safer. " are so ignorant for voting so. Are all terrorist Arab/brown toned? Timothy McVeigh was white. Theodore Kaczynski was white.

Point? The average American should be more afraid of a Caucasian person committing terrorist acts then an Arab committing terrorist acts. .

How many Caucasians have hijacked an airplane then blown or tried to blow it up or flown it into a building?


Guess what?
Profiling works.
Middle aged white males are most likely serial killers. When a serial killing is suspected they do not go looking for a black teenage girl, or a grey haired Korean woman. They look for a person that fits the PROFILE. That's how they catch them.

Profiles fit specific situations and believe it or not, feeling up a Hispanic toddler from San Antonio headed for Newark isn't going to stop an adult male Moslem bomber from trying to take out an international flight coming in to New York from Saudi Arabia.

Even worse than the intentional abuse of non likely citizens is the attitude that they should continue to grope around in a white grandmothers colostomy bag while giving moslem women a pass on scans and patdowns altogether for "religious" reasons.

This is the actual group of people that has been doing the bombing and they are talking about not even checking them but still people will scream about profiling?

How about the intentional reverse profiling that is already going on?
They are intentionally bypassing the ones that should be profiled. Why?
To prove how open minded and politically correct their body scanning, crotch groping perverts at the TWA are? That way they can claim to have done everything politically correctly when they get a plane full of innocent sexual assault victims killed because they didn't check the woman with a kilo of semtex in her burqua?

posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 10:26 PM
reply to post by Steam

Marxist "justice" is not justice in reality. You do not systematically harass and violate the rights of people who you scientifically know are unlikely to be Islamic terrorists in order to keep Islamic terrorists from blowing up air planes. The American people have a keen sense of constitutional justice. It is just not the kind of politically correct justice the Left imposes upon them. To most Americans that is injustice.

What has happened is that with the excuse to avoid 'racism" whereby the only focus on Islamic terrorists and leave everyone else alone, the homeland security industrial complex has expanded the defination of terrorist and terrorism to justify violating the rights of everyone in a Marxist type racial equality. That defination is now inclusive of American political groups the government does not like such as war protestors, constituional advocates, pro lifers, third party members, second amendment advocates, etc. They also now claim they have to look for drugs and other illegal material on people during these "terrorist" searches. Liberals, in playing the race card, gave HS an excuse to illegally spy on, search and harass every innocent person in America. That is why it is said that liberalism is a mental disorder.

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