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An Iowa citizens group opposed to illegal immigration is launching a statewide petition drive aimed at urging Gov.-elect Terry Branstad and lawmakers to approve a tough, Arizona-style immigration enforcement statute in Iowa.
The Minuteman Patriots have sent petitions to supporters in 81 Iowa counties, said Craig Halverson of Griswold, the group's national director. Several members gathered about 400 signatures Saturday outside a post office in Council Bluffs, and a similar petition effort was conducted in Sioux City. Petitions were also distributed Thursday at a Tea Party Patriots meeting in Spencer.
If you are a US Citizen there is no reason that the police should have to question it.
I have looked into these laws, and it turns out that they are being pushed through by white supremacist lobby groups like FAIR, and The Pioneer Fund.
Define "police state".
The term police state describes a state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic and political life of the population. A police state typically exhibits elements of totalitarianism and social control, and there is usually little or no distinction between the law and the exercise of political power by the executive.
How is checking for citizenship (which I am sure has nothing to do with race in the US) racial persecution?
Because these laws are specifically targeted towards Latino populations.
Specifically geared to make Hispanic people second class citizens with undue pressure on them.
Forcing these people to constantly assert their legitimate right to be in this country when they come here legally.
I dont think legitimizing yourself with citizen ID is undue pressure, it takes cca 30 seconds max.
No, you aren't understanding what goes into checking someone's citizenship. You are arrested, then taken to an INS Facility where you are processed.
Mandatory possession of a federally issued ID, sounds pretty fascist to me. I guess we have no freedom to move about the country as free people then do we?
What's next? State wide mandatory checkpoints? Can't go from state to state without your papers? Maybe we should force everyone in the country papers entitling them to travel? That way we can expand the TSA to include interstate roads as well right? The infrastructure is already in place, instead of just freight trucks stopping for checks, everyone traveling on the roads can stop for a mandatory search of their vehicles, detainment, fingerprinting, identification checks and a pat down and body scan just for good measure. What a wonderful America you all have in visioned. When are you all going to start in with the mandatory blood screenings for everything?
It IS about race, it wouldn't be a problem if we had an influx of Canadians crossing the border, no one would care.
Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by whatukno
I never understood what exactly is the problem with citizen IDs in the US.
Citizen IDs are common all over the world, we have had them for 60 years now,
It's never a problem, until it's in your backyard. A police officer can essentially stop and ask you for ID anywhere on the basis of well, nothing.
What's to stop a police officer coming onto your property on the count of some hunch?
Why should I have to constantly defend my citizenship in my own country?