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Was Jesus a communist or a capitalist?

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posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 03:21 PM
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At the inner Washington offices of the American Enterprise Institute, I pitted the question to Shane Claiborne and Peter Greer, both Christian advocates for the poor. They had just participated in an in-depth discourse moderated by Eric Teetsel at AEI about the existential nature of charity. Claiborne is a lanky, tall fellow with long dreadlocks, earrings and a goatee. The founding member of the Simple Way community in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, responded: “Jesus wasn’t anything that ended in “ist” - he was an existential lover - but I think that he was challenging all these systems, and he was pulling the best of the people in those systems out.”

CNN Article

Many people of the Christian faith would agree that Jesus is a Socialist and or that he had no influence in any market.

Articles and sources I would like to share and compare.
Ten reasons why Jesus was a Scoialist
Jesus was a Socialist article
Bibical basicas for Liberal politics

To make it clear what is Socialism.
Socialism 101 what is Socialism
WSM What is Socialism?
SA What is Socialism

Nice Article from Wikipedia on Christian Socialism.
Christian Socialism

Christian socialism generally refers to those on the Christian left whose politics are both Christian and socialist and who see these two philosophies as being interrelated. This category can include Liberation theology and the doctrine of the social gospel. The term "Christian Socialism" is used in this sense by organizations such as the Christian Socialist Movement (CSM). The term also pertains to such earlier figures as the nineteenth century writers Frederick Denison Maurice (The Kingdom of Christ, 1838), Charles Kingsley (The Water-Babies, 1863), Thomas Hughes (Tom Brown's Schooldays, 1857), Frederick James Furnivall (co-creator of the Oxford English Dictionary), Adin Ballou (Practical Christian Socialism, 1854), and Francis Bellamy (a Baptist minister and the author of the United States' Pledge of Allegiance).


I would like for any of you interested into seeing what you think of the CNN article before and after you read the other links I provided.




posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 03:32 PM
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RR, for a person that claims to be such a proud atheist, you sure do ask a lot of questions about Jesus.

Why is that?



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 03:35 PM
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I'm not a religious person. I like the diversity on this website and the knowledge that come from the diversity. Once I saw the article I thought I should start a thread about it.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 03:37 PM
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I believe jesus is all of the above, he is communist, socialist, capitalist...etc



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 03:38 PM
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Communism and Capitalism are political constructs. Jesus was no part of that. Don't ask me the scripture but he said, "Pay unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. (Ie: Taxes) but pay unto God which is God's." I'd have to say that he was neither.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 03:46 PM
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I doubt Jesus believed in big government. I also doubt jesus is a fan of McDonalds franken food that causes heart attacks, or sweatshops aka corporatism.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 03:56 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid
Communism and Capitalism are political constructs. Jesus was no part of that. Don't ask me the scripture but he said, "Pay unto Caesar that which is Caesar's. (Ie: Taxes) but pay unto God which is God's." I'd have to say that he was neither.


i love that. why would jesus care about paying caesar? ask yourself who benefits.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by tonypazzohome
i love that. why would jesus care about paying caesar? ask yourself who benefits.


From what I remember and note that my religious days are 25 years behind me, the Pharisees were trying to trap Jesus into breaking faith with Rome. Jesus basically stated that one should keep to the laws of the land as far as it didn't interrupt your giving to God what he is due. Thus being "no part of the world". So Jesus wouldn't have been any type of political construct.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 05:37 PM
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Jesus died with a single seamless and bloody garment to his name. Jesus taught us over and over again that the pursuit of money and indeed money itself was an impediment to knowing the creator. Jesus instructed people to sell all their possessions and work with the poor in order to build up a bank in heaven. I'd say beyond economic systems Jesus was a humanist, and for that which showed the greatest love to humans.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 05:38 PM
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There is no such thing as capitalism.

Its a distraction.

The U.S. is a fascist corporation. They control military and economy, it is text book Fascism.

Follow the Money.

Jesus did figure it out, and he turned the tables of a money changer, whose bloodline runs to today's president.

He figured out what the money changers do and someone on ATS traced back the bloodline.

Jesus was silenced because of what he knew, not the miracles he did.

Jesus would be against the capitalistic/Fascist regime we see in the world today. Commune-ism would likely be the same reaction he had at the temples.
edit on 23-11-2010 by Quickfix because: Edited to add related sentences.


Edited to also add: he would not be either of them.
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posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 07:24 PM
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Hey RR, he "supposedly" gave his life for everyone.

All you have to ask is for forgiveness. NO ONE can judge you. NO ONE can judge anyone.

We are all just relevant pieces of meat, until we give ourselves to him.

Just my perception.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 07:31 PM
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I wish people would stop thinking that Capitalism and Communism are mutually exclusive systems.
Most communist countries in fact ARE capitalist.

You question should be:
"Was Jesus for or against the People controlling the Means of Production?"
or
"Would Jesus approve of the People trading for what they need?"

You posted some links, I didn't follow them because I have already read a lot about both systems.

Fascist Nationalism Vs. Communism is a much better debate.



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 03:11 AM
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Oh ho ho, it is funny because those things did not exist in Roman times and there is no way that Jesus could have had an opinion of them! Ho ho ho!



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 03:36 AM
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RR, Jesus is definitely not a capitalist, he's not into money.. that's the key, the love of money. True christians don't love money, they love Christ. Money is just a tool.



posted on Nov, 28 2010 @ 04:36 PM
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anit-socialist
complete explanation why free markets are mandated by the bible verse by verse



posted on Nov, 28 2010 @ 04:40 PM
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Jesus Christ was not a socialist.

Just out of curiosity...
do you read actual books?

Thanks-
thegoodearth



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