"Ugly Betty" Actor Kills Mother With "Freemason" Sword, Chanting to "Great Architect", page 4


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reply posted on 23-11-2010 @ 11:29 PM by Rockpuck
reply to post by Xinthose




Was it God, the devil, or free will that guided his hand and stayed his temper?


Philosophical dilemma..

God made man
God made the "devil"
God granted free choice..

Whether the man was motivated by Devil, or himself, or God, it's all the same thing, but since God gave us free choice, ultimately it was his choices alone with God's gift that led him to kill his Mother.. Good and Evil both being the creation of the same deity cannot be distinguished from one deity to a sub deity to ones self.. it's just the way it is.. and it's a waste of time trying to decide "what" motivated him except by saying he and he alone made the choices he made.


reply posted on 24-11-2010 @ 01:52 AM by JoshNorton
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to
post by network dude



Hmm.. Personally, I never saw a sword used in the Scottish Rite, have you?
You Northern Jurisdiction folk miss out on all the fun... In the Southern Jurisdiction, the 29th Degree is the Scottish Knight of St. Andrew, so we've got a 5' long Claymore that we dub people knights with during the degree. Luckily, our degree team is mostly younger men who have the arm strength to keep any accidents from happening...


reply posted on 24-11-2010 @ 02:02 AM by catwhoknows
reply to post by amc621



Hi am,

I would just like to mention a few facts.

Jesus gets blamed for a lot of things. Please do not blame Him for a lunatic who yelled the name of Jesus as he murdered his mother.

If Jesus was ever here on earth, He died to save mankind.

Do not blame Jesus for 'Christianity', which grew in His name, but a lot of so-called Christianity has nothing to do with the beliefs of Jesus.

If Jesus was real, don't you think He suffered enough, without being blamed for everything else?



reply posted on 24-11-2010 @ 02:06 AM by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by amc621



I don't like religion (I'm an atheist) but come on. You can't say Christianity is evil because somebody goes crazy and stabs someone. You mention 911. Do you also think that Islam is evil? You do understand why its wrong to label the entire religion based on the actions of a few right? Most Christians are normal people, and one nutcase maniac with a sword doesn't change that.


reply posted on 24-11-2010 @ 02:17 AM by mattias
Originally posted by amc621
reply to
post by tonypazzohome



www.nydailynews.com...

This is just another sign of christianity being evil, as he killed his mother he yelled at her for not accepting jesus. This poor woman survived 9/11. She worked at the WTC marriot.


Thats the most foolish thing I've ever heard, freemasonry is NOT Christianity, dont be so stupid.


reply posted on 24-11-2010 @ 05:47 AM by network dude
Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to
post by network dude



Hmm.. Personally, I never saw a sword used in the Scottish Rite, have you?



Oh yea. In both the 21st and 28th degree. I am warden of the north and captain of the guard. I get a sword for both. It's just a sword. I think real, but more ornamental than anything. Now I am very curious about the northern jurisdiction. I would like to see your degrees.


reply posted on 24-11-2010 @ 09:39 AM by Rockpuck
reply to post by network dude



I have not seen all the degrees actually, so there could be swords, but not in the 30-32 at least.. so he could have been a mid level mason lol

Every masonic sword I've seen though professed its self steel of some variation like "toledo steel!" But would melt if sharpened. You could run someone through with it.. but you could run someone through with a spoon too.

I was in a lodge in PA their tyler had a civil war officers sword, who left it to the lodge.. but it didn't say anything masonic, just "us army"

I'm going to propose to my lodge we start using a claymore sword.. we don't even have one


reply posted on 24-11-2010 @ 10:47 AM by Bordon81


reply posted on 24-11-2010 @ 12:41 PM by piddles
Originally posted by Romantic_Rebel
reply to
post by tonypazzohome



A hardworking Brooklyn mother hacked to death this morning with a samurai sword by her actor son might still be alive if cops didn’t wait nearly an hour to break down her apartment door, neighbors said.

Source

I don't Freemason anywhere. I see the word samurai.
Care to change the title of your thread?


it definitely says bible verses and loose mentioning of freemasonry
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