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N. Korea Crisis - Updated as News come to hand

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posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 09:16 AM

#ROK Defense Ministry says military talks offer from #DPRK came today via "telegram." #Koreas about 4 hours ago via TweetDeck

Yonhap: #ROK accepts #DPRK proposal for high-ranking military talks & proposes to hold preparatory working-level military talks. #Koreas about 3 hours ago via TweetDeck

As I said earlier, talks would have gone nowhere unless SKorea gave in, because NKorea was very unlikely to do really anything concrete.

#ROK sr. gov't official refutes media reports of new negotiations with US to extend range of S. Korean ballistic missiles. about 13 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

Because now they have a limit of 300km range. They want to be able to have a +1000km range. That is for ballistic missiles since they already have a cruise missile that can reach about 930km.

N. Korea working on uranium enrichment 'since 1990s'

North Korea has been developing a uranium enrichment programme -- a potential second way to make nuclear bombs -- since the late 1990s, a senior defector was Wednesday quoted as saying.

The North, using plutonium extracted from its Yongbyon reactor, staged nuclear tests in 2006 and 2009. It is believed to have enough plutonium for six to eight atomic bombs.

The defector said Pyongyang was "likely to seek to enhance its nuclear capability via a third nuclear test" since the current arms programme "is behind on efficiency".

At least because of that defector they got more information.

China denies N. Korea troop plan

An unnamed Chinese defence ministry official was quoted in China's state-run Global Times newspaper as saying: "China will not send a single soldier to other countries without the approval of the UN."

Of course they do. That is a lie IMO, since I've seen those plans in 2006 published in Chinese newspaper. They said China would send troops in to take over NKorea if the regime went nuts or collapsed.

China Could Ask for U.S. to Get Out of Korea, WikiLeaks Cable Warns

"A peaceful resolution of the threat posed by North Korea might cause China to call for an end to the U.S. base presence on the Korean Peninsula."

Duh. China doesn't want a pro-US Korea + US bases on their border.

China Deploys New Stealth Missile Speedboat

China has developed a stealth missile speedboat and deployed it in the East China Sea, the official People's Daily reported Wednesday.

How long before the US press talks about it?

DVDs Criticizing NK Power Transfer Circulate in NK

Seoul calls US-China summit 'progress' in NK nukes
Actions speak louder than words.

posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 11:55 AM

Gotta' love this photo from the Chosun website!

Bush is like move the hell over this side man!!

Obama is worshipping his new masters!!
edit on 20-1-2011 by john124 because: (no reason given)

posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 12:07 PM
reply to post by john124

Hey dude let go my sleeve

Your High arse
Classics!! Thanks for the laughs!

posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 06:48 PM

# US State Dept.: "We still believe that N. Korea has a ways to go before we can engage in meaningful Six-Party Talks." 40 minutes ago via web

# White House: Inter-Korean military talks "clearly a positive step." about 2 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®


Japan PM 'concerned' over China's defence build-up

U.S, China Tread Delicate Line Over N.Korea

When U.S. President Barack Obama and his Chinese counterpart Hu Jintao held a joint press conference after their meeting on Wednesday, Obama said the two "agreed that North Korea must avoid further provocations." This raised brief expectations that China may have shifted its position on North Korea, since the North's only ally has so far declined to admit that the North is responsible for provocations like the sinking of the Navy corvette Cheonan and the shelling of Yeonpyeong Island last year.

But the joint statement released a few hours later merely said, "Both sides expressed concern over heightened tensions on the Peninsula," which they said were "triggered by recent developments" rather than North Korean provocations.

All this shows what a delicate balance China is treading with regard to North Korea. Sources earlier claimed U.S. and Chinese officials got bogged down for hours in working on the paragraph referring to the Korean Peninsula.

posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 07:03 PM
reply to post by john124

This was great! I laughed so hard thanks for the pics!

posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 07:07 PM
Is it me or is just very difficult to determine where China stands?

posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 07:12 PM

Originally posted by john124

Gotta' love this photo from the Chosun website!

Bush is like move the hell over this side man!!

Obama is worshipping his new masters!!

Remove the word new, and it would be far more accurate.

posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 09:03 PM
After all, the talks might not be a done deal...

MoU: #ROK military will meet with #DPRK counterparts as long as N. Korea willing to discuss Cheonan sinking, Yeonpyeong Is. shelling. about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

MoU spokesman: #ROK to also suggest "high level" bilat talks on nukes since #DPRK didn't mention that issue in its proposal. about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

MoU: #ROK will ask for apology or acknowledgment of Cheonan sinking & Yeonpyeong shelling in #DPRK military talks. about 1 hour ago via TweetDeck

DPRK broadcast: Inter-Korean military talks should be held wthin first 10 days of February. 36 minutes ago via TweetDeck

(North) Korean Central Broadcasting Svc.: Agenda will include expressing views on Cheonan incident and Yeonpyeong artillery battle. 36 minutes ago via TweetDeck

Asking for an apology might piss off NKorea... but go for it.
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posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 09:07 PM
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Right, N Korea doesn't like to be reminded of sinking and shelling!

posted on Jan, 20 2011 @ 09:17 PM

Originally posted by crazydaisy
reply to post by Vitchilo

Right, N Korea doesn't like to be reminded of sinking and shelling!

Well they can suck it.

Denuclearization still top agenda between Koreas: ministry

The denuclearization of North Korea remains an unexpendable issue for South Korea even as Seoul prepares for talks with Pyongyang over a pair of other security issues, an official said Friday.

The comments by Unification Ministry spokesman Chun Hae-sung mean that South Korea will continue to press North Korea to agree to separate talks on the nuclear programs the communist state operates.

Good luck.

posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 07:30 PM
N.Korea Wants to Talk About Provocations

North Korea on Thursday called for high-level military talks to South Korea to discuss the sinking of the Navy corvette Cheonan and the shelling of Yeonpyeong Island last year. The North has pushed for all manner of talks but so far refused to talk about the attacks.


Seoul Wants Nuclear Talks with Pyongyang

South Korea is to send a message to the North on Wednesday or Thursday calling for denuclearization talks. Seoul is also going to accept a proposal from Pyongyang for military talks.

That would be neat if they agree.

posted on Jan, 24 2011 @ 08:46 PM
Very good that the North is willing to talk about the sinking.

posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 03:36 AM
they probably want more aid this time. it's the usual NK modus operandi, they're always willing to talk when they're after something in return.

posted on Jan, 25 2011 @ 06:45 AM
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My ex-girlfriend looked like an anime character too...I miss her.

posted on Jan, 27 2011 @ 10:43 PM
South Korea drops apology demand for six-party talks: report

And what a surprise... NOT.

N. Korean leader opposed hereditary power transfer, eldest son says

North Korean leader Kim Jong-il was against a third-generation power succession, but had no other option in order to stabilize the troubled communist regime, a Japanese newspaper quoted Kim's eldest son as saying in its Friday edition.

Somehow I doubt that...

posted on Jan, 28 2011 @ 10:06 PM
A Very Bad Sign

January 25, 2011: In North Korea, a terror campaign is in progress. Security forces have been ordered to arrest anyone openly criticizing the government, or communicating with the outside world (via cell phone or just reading pamphlets from South Korea). Violators are increasingly being executed publically, and news of these deaths allowed to quickly spread.

Until three years ago, when South Korea cut off aid to North Korea, that aid amounted to over $600 million a year (mostly food and fuel). That had been going for a decade, as the previous South Korean government sought to buy better relations from the north. Trade with South Korea raised that to about a billion dollars a year. For the last year there has been no aid or trade. That billion dollars mainly went to pay for goods imported from China. Aid from China only amounts to about $300 million a year. That's still coming in, but not the larger amount of goods bought from China (including a lot of food and fuel, but mostly industrial goods for the arms industries and the military.) The shortages have fallen largely on industry (lots more dark and empty factories) and the military (lots of army bases with less, or no, heat this time of year, and lower quality food as well.) There's less food and fuel for everyone, and for most of the country, there is electricity only a few hours a day, if that.

In response to the growing shortages, North Korea has been spending more on the military. It's is now believed that a third of the North Korea GDP (about $20 billion, compared to $1,000 billion for South Korea) goes to the million man armed forces.

Theft and other crime is becoming more common, much of it committed by teenage boys who have left home (or been orphaned and fled to avoid an orphanage) and joined youth gangs. In the cities, these gangs survive because the cops are corrupt and lazy, and if you avoid high profile crimes, you can keep out of labor camps. Begging also works, although the kids often fight over the choice spots. The gangs are also responsible for a lot of the anti-government graffiti.

Situation is quite serious in the North.

The Paper Lions Of The North

January 27, 2011: After two decades of rumors and not much else, the North Korean hackers are now definitely active. Apparently. Recently, a South Korean radio station got it website shut down by a DDOS attack traced back to North Korea. Several other attacks on anti-North Korea media in South Korea are believed the work of North Korea hackers. And back in the Summer of 2009, there were what appeared to be 25 similar attacks on South Korean and American web sites.

Attacks on South Korean data networks were up 20 percent a year in each of the last two years, with hundreds of serious attempts each day, to hack in and steal defense secrets. More North Korean locations are showing up as the source of these attacks. This appears to solve the growing mystery about what the mysterious North Korean Cyber War units were up to.

posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 08:57 PM
S. Korea seeking early purchase of stealth jets: sources

Possible candidates for jets include Boeing's F-15SE and Lockheed Martin's F-35, sources said.

This is quite ridiculous since NKorea best fighters jets are from the 60s. But of course they would need them to face China... or to get inside NKorea if NKorea got S-300/HQ-10s which according to certain sources, they already have.

NK blasts Seoul for punishing a pastor for illegal Pyongyang trip

North Korea blasted South Korea Saturday for punishing a pro-unification pastor who illegally traveled to the communist country last summer, saying that the move will certainly aggravate inter-Korean confrontation.

Russia voices support for U.N. Security Council referral of N.K.'s uranium program

Russia does not oppose referring North Korea's uranium enrichment program to the U.N. Security Council, Moscow's chief nuclear envoy said Friday, boosting Seoul's hope of raising the issue before the global security body.

Should be interesting if they do.

Japan ups intelligence on Chinese military
Pyongyang now proposes inter-Korean dialogue of legislators

posted on Jan, 29 2011 @ 09:21 PM
A clap down on the citizens with public executions - not good. Perhaps Kim has seen some clips of whats going on in Egypt and he's concerned over an uprising - of course that won't happen as those in N K don't even know whats going on in the world.

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 10:54 PM
reply to post by crazydaisy

Indeed. I think he's just doing so to scare people into doing nothing because things are getting worse...

Yonhap: #ROK rejects #DPRK push for earlier working-level military talks, sticks to original suggestion of Feb. 11. #Koreas

Furry Hat Offers Clues to Progress of N.Korean Succession

North Korean leader Kim Jong-il's son and heir Jong-un is already being treated with the same level of protocol as his father.

A senior South Korean government official last Friday said Kim Jong-un seems to have moved up to the same rank as his father. "The most conspicuous sign is that Kim Jong-un has started wearing a top-quality furry hat that only Kim Jong-il has been wearing so far," the official added.

That is some funny news. If the date was April 1, I wouldn't believe it!

posted on Jan, 30 2011 @ 10:56 PM

South Korea on Monday rejected a push by the North to bring forward military talks by 10 days, saying it was not enough time to prepare for their first dialogue since the North's deadly attack against a border island last year.


I wonder what the rush is for the North to hold talks as soon as possible?

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