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N. Korea Crisis - Updated as News come to hand

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posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 01:23 PM
reply to post by john124

Thanks for the article...

On December 24, a research report from the South Korean Foreign Ministry Institute indicated that North Korea would carry out another nuclear bomb test after the beginning of the year. -- South Korean media reported earlier this month that the North was digging a tunnel in preparation for such a nuclear test.

Yeah. For the 100th anniversary of Kim Il Sung birthday. He was born in 1912, but apparently it makes 100 years, according to how they count the time in Korea. Nothing to do with Iran.

At the same time, reports from inside Iran indicate that a team of Iranian nuclear scientists have been sent to North Korea and that the two governments have agreed on a joint nuclear test in North Korea with a substantial financial reward for the Kim Jong-Il government.

Report? From who? Fox News?

It is no secret that Iran and North Korea are collaborating in a ballistic missile program. The North Koreans provided Iran with the technology and know-how to build the Shahab-3 medium-range ballistic missile, which is a copy of the Nodong-1 missile.

And which is crappy. All military analysts will tell you so.

Most alarming, recent WikiLeaks releases reveal that Iran obtained a cache of advanced missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads (based on a Russian design) from North Korea.

Which even the US say they dropped the design not long after because it was crappy. Iran is now developing their own missile, the SAJIL, which is SOLID FUELED. And what does it matter if it can carry a nuclear warhead? You still have to make the freaking warhead in the first place... which would take at least 5-10+ years to Iran after they do their first nuclear test.

Anyway this whole thing in Iran and North Korea developing nukes is due to that bastard George W Bush. Iran was ALMOST A FREAKING ALLY to the US in 2001-2002!!! They helped the UN mission in Afghanistan MORE THAN ANY COUNTRY, EVEN THE US. They captured more Talibans than anyone and gave them back to the UN. There were even talks in Iran of doing lots of business deals with the US.

But eh, that sick bastard George W Bush branded Iran as part of the ``axis of evil`` in January 2003, destroying that relation in one shot, paving the way for Ahmadinejad and the extremists in Iran to take over. Not to mention the US starting invading Iraq just because he had oil... you think that didn't make Iran think about who was next? Obviously they were next on the list. And if the Iraq war had gone a little better and Cheney did pull the false-flags he talked about many times, the US would be in Iran right now.

So what do you do when you're threatened by the biggest military power on earth? You develop nukes! Of course! To defend yourself against the country run by madmen because that's the ONLY thing that will stop them, Israel know this, that's why they developed nukes in the 60s.

And now because of that sicko W and Israel insane government, war against Iran/Iran deploying nukes is almost 100%.... thanks a lot BUSH.... the sweetheart of Fox News... the war criminal of the world.

Anyway that's another topic.

Ministry to focus on North’s people

The government aims to make a greater distinction between the Kim Jong-il regime and ordinary North Korean citizens in its policies next year, Minister of Unification Hyun In-taek told President Lee Myung-bak at the Blue House on Wednesday.

Good idea.

posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 03:48 PM
North Korea bends it like Beckham in UK film first

North Korea's state-run television has broadcast British film Bend It Like Beckham.

In a tweet, the UK Ambassador to South Korea, Martin Uden, said it was the "1st ever Western-made film to air on TV" in North Korea.

Originally released in the UK in 2002, the film was broadcast across North Korea on 26 December.

Although the original is 112 minutes long, the version broadcast was cut to 104 minutes, suggesting some editing.

It was a rare treat for North Koreans whose state television normally broadcasts animations, hagiographies of its leaders and images celebrating the country's army, model farms and model villages.

Mr Uden said the broadcast had been arranged by the British embassy.

Maybe they can show Team America World Police next time.

posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 04:03 PM
reply to post by john124

Maybe they can show Team America World Police next time.

That would be epic if SKorea or any country for that matter could hack the North Korean TV broadcasting and put Team America on with Korean dialogue... that would be EPIC and probably the funniest propaganda move EVER.

BTW, do you know how North Korea keep his pilots from defecting? They give their pilots minimal fuel during training... and disable the ejection seat. Also other warplanes are kept on stand by to pursue those who try to defect and shoot them down... Nice uh?

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posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 04:48 PM
reply to post by Vitchilo

I wonder how many in the NK military would like to defect? Do you know the NK policies on choosing their soldiers. Also what are the roles of the women in their military?

posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 04:56 PM
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They have strict standards... You must have at least 1 working limb and at minimum a combined combination of 1 eye or usable ear.

Women are used as land bridges... Lock arms and pray!!

posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 05:14 PM
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I wonder how many in the NK military would like to defect?

According to the info I've read coming from diplomats/journalists that went into North Korea and talked to soldiers... A LOT.

Do you know the NK policies on choosing their soldiers.

Haven't read about it a lot... but it's probably like back in the Soviet Union... if you have a good ``political mind`` you're higher in grade...and of course, some are just higher in grade because they know people, and some just because they are good. If you have a good ``political mind`` and you are hardcore, you go into special forces...

People go into the army just because it's better there than being an average peasant... you eat better...and probably if no one in your family is in the army, you probably seen as a bunch of traitors.

And by ``political mind``, I mean, total devotion to Kim Jong Il, spirit of sacrifice for the leader, burning hatred for the South government and the Americans... that kind of stuff.

Also what are the roles of the women in their military?

Unmarried women between the ages of 17-30 are in the reserves... they do about 40 days of training per year.
Unmarried women 17-30 who are not in the reserve are in the Worker-Peasant militia, they do 30 days of training per year.
And female students 14-16 are in the Young Red Guard, they do about 35 days of training per year.

I don't think per say there's women in the regular NKorean army... but you never know.

And from what I read, North Korea has DOUBLED it's military training in 2010 compared to 2009. But this is only for the ground troops... there were few tanks/planes due to lack of fuel. Even not a lot of target practice because ammo is expensive. More of artillery training on the other hand... because ammo is reaching the ``dangerous`` stage because of it being too old.
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posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 05:25 PM
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With how poor they are.....Lets say 3/4 of their ammo was about to expire.. Are they desperate enough to kick something off, so it doesn't go to waste?

posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 05:43 PM

Originally posted by Resurrectio
reply to post by Vitchilo

With how poor they are.....Lets say 3/4 of their ammo was about to expire.. Are they desperate enough to kick something off, so it doesn't go to waste?

Probably not.... hopefully.

And apparently, when South Korea talked to China about reunification, they pledged to China that no US troops would be allowed to stay in the country... and even if a few remained, they would not be allowed above the 38th parallel.

Thing is... if recent polls in China are to be believed... most Chinese wanted to kick South Korea's butt... but of course that could change if Korea become unified and America leaves the Korean peninsula and the South Korean government make a big diplomatic leap towards China... I'm sure that would change the average Chinese citizen mind in favor of good relations between the two countries.

Also in South Korea, citizens are angry at China because of it's support of North Korea... if Korea were to be reunified and China-Korea relations would improve, Koreans would be happy with China...

The only way this happens is either war or collapse... collapse will only happen with a coup... and war... well...would happen if NKorea does another provocation... as they nearly did last week... which they didn't because of China explaining to them how angry the South really was for the first time since 1950s-1960s and that this time they would respond.

Also from what I've been reading, on November 23, when the North started shelling the island, the artillery batteries on the island had to call headquarters and ask permission to fire back... that's why it took so long... of course the people at headquarters didn't want to be responsible for an escalation leading to another outbreak of full scale war...
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posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 06:09 PM
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I am all for leaving all of our bases all over the world and let these countries sort their own problems out.
Bring our soldiers home and put them to work on our infrastructure.

posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 06:38 PM
Yeah... In Korea if you do that, war is sure to break out. But I agree.

S.Korea Includes New NK Missile in Defense White Paper

The South Korean Defense Ministry says it will refer to a recently unveiled North Korean ground-to-air missile as the “KN-06.”

The Defense Agency for Technology and Quality in Seoul said in a report that the North’s new missile is similar to Russia’s S-300 missile and China’s FT-2000 missile.

IMO this is BS.... but if this is true... this is a MAJOR and I mean, MAJOR, game changer. And if this is true... was it deployed on the Western border on November 23? If it was...why the hell didn't we hear about it?

posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 06:47 PM
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Thanks for answering my questions - trying to get a better light on the people. I feel really bad for them - I would have defected already or died trying.

posted on Dec, 30 2010 @ 10:31 PM
NK..Might be in very poor shape..If the poor nutrition keeps going,it reaches a point where Females will stop Mensurating,and the amount of new North Koreans coming into the world would drop.It would be interesting to know the birth stats for this country.

posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 10:21 AM
About women stopping menstruating... probably already happened.

N. Korean leader watches tank force training on last day of 2010

North Korean leader Kim Jong-il concluded the year with a tour of the country's tank division that is seen as a vanguard of the communist regime's military-first policy, its official media said Friday, amid high tensions following the North's island attack last month.

Hopefully not a visit for an upcoming attack...

N.Korea Releases Footage of Kim Jong-il Using Left Hand

North Korean leader Kim Jong-il has been spotted using his left hand fairly adeptly, suggesting that he is recovering from paralysis following a massive stroke in 2008. Some observers believe North Korean media deliberately showed footage of Kim using the hand to quash rumors that his days are numbered.

Might be staged...

Bigger Island Harbors to Make Evacuation Easier

The Ministry of Land, Transport and Maritime Affairs is to expand 10 harbor terminals on nine islands including Yeonpyeong from next year to accommodate 5,000-ton civilian and naval vessels that will facilitate the evacuation of residents and military operations in an emergency.


N.Korea Boosts Special Forces, Conventional Arms

The 200,000-odd special troops are primed to carry out combined operations such as attacks on major facilities in South Korea, assassination of VIPs and harassment in the rear by infiltrating the South using underground tunnels and AN-2 aircraft capable of low-altitude infiltration, the white paper said.

It also has 2,500 to 5,000 tons of various chemical weapons, according to the white paper.

Equipment includes about 8,500 field guns, 5,100 multiple rocket launchers, and some 100 surface-to-surface missiles, as well as 170 mm self-propelled guns and 240 mm multiple rocket launchers that can deliver blitzkrieg fire at the Seoul metropolitan area from their current positions.

The North Korean Navy has about 420 combat warships, 260 landing ships, 30 minesweepers, about 30 support vessels and some 70 submarines. The Air Force has some 820 combat aircraft, 30 surveillance and control aircraft, 330 aerial mobile planes and some 170 training aircraft. Compared to 2008, that is 20 fewer combat aircraft and 10 fewer training aircraft.

The North also has about 300 helicopters, 7.7 million reserve forces, and some 300 munition factories. The military is keeping most of the ordnance stored in caves and has two to three month's worth of supplies, the white paper estimates.

So they've got quite an armament... but they still don't have enough fuel for training, enough spare parts for it's equipment... and most, if not all of their missiles are LIQUID FUELED... which means it takes at least 30-45 minutes to fuel (for a SCUD)...

Kim Jong-il 'Exhibits Criminal Behavior Traits'

Pyo Chang-won, a criminal psychologist at the Korea National Police University, said, "Visiting the scene of a crime before it is committed can be seen as boasting about it." It can also induce troops in the region to demonstrate zealous loyalty, Pyo added. Before the nuclear test in 2006 and long-range rocket launch in 2009, the North Korean leader conducted intensive on-site inspections of military bases in Hamgyong Province, where the relevant facilities are located.

Well duh. A dictator having criminal behavior traits? And you need a PHD to say that?

posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 12:43 PM
According to Wikepedia the population estimate has declined to 0.4% in 1999. Sorry but nothing works for me here, can't post links, images, etc.

posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 03:37 PM
Not much news today... but North Korea has released their annual ``Kim Jong Il`` statement for the year.

N. Korea calls for improved ties with S. Korea, revival of economy

North Korea called Saturday for improvement in its relations with South Korea and a "full-scale offensive" to revive its moribund economy in its New Year message.

"Confrontation between north and south should be defused as early as possible," the North said in the joint editorial of its three leading newspapers, Rodong Sinmun, Joson Inmingun and Chongnyon Jonwi, adding nothing is "more vital" than reunifying the Koreas.

"Active efforts should be made to create an atmosphere of dialogue and cooperation between north and south by placing the common interests of the nation above anything else," the editorial said, carried by the official Korean Central News Agency.

I've read at least 5 other annual message from North Korea from the early 90s and late 80s... always the same.

posted on Dec, 31 2010 @ 03:40 PM
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This time they mean it. Just like each and every new threat....

posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 10:17 AM

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North Korea cargo ship sinks; 2 dead, 15 missing (Reuters)

It's just an accident and hopefully they find the people missing.

The North Korean ship Kang Bong sank on Friday morning "amid strong gales" off Lianyungang Port in the eastern Chinese province of Jiangsu, China's Xinhua News Agency reported.

#DPRK newspapers' New Year editorial: No pardon for those... "who violate our airspace, territory and waters, even an inch." #Koreas about 8 hours ago via TweetDeck

Rodong Sinmun (#DPRK) commentary: #ROK policy towards the North "heightens only the danger of a nuclear war." #Koreas about 8 hours ago via TweetDeck

To put it bluntly: @mikeontbs: @newsjean DPRK messaging is almost endearing. "Please get along with us, or we'll nuke you." about 3 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

Basically. Except they can't nuke anybody.

Starving North Korea spends $150M on heir Kim Jong Eun

NORTH Korea has spent more than $150 million on new offices and villas for Kim Jong Eun - the state's heir apparent - The (London) Daily Telegraph reported today, citing South Korean security services.

Ridiculous and outrageous.

posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 11:49 AM
I hope they find the missing from the cargo ship. NK wouldn't dare blame this on SK would they?

posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 02:27 PM

Originally posted by crazydaisy
I hope they find the missing from the cargo ship. NK wouldn't dare blame this on SK would they?

Hopefully not. Since it happened more than 12 hours ago and NK haven't said anything about it yet.. this have almost no chances of happening.

posted on Jan, 1 2011 @ 05:10 PM
Unification unlikely in 2011: FT

A British newspaper has predicted that inter-Korean unification is unlikely in 2011, even if that is what is likely to happen eventually.

North Korea is among the major global issues the Financial Times covered in its New Year analysis of major world issues and how it sees they will play out.

According to its analysis, there is no chance for inter-Korean unification in the New Year.

If war breaks out, forced reunification might happen.

N. Korean soldiers leave barracks en masse looking for food

An increasing number of North Korean soldiers are showing “AWOL” behaviors to avoid intense physical training and look for food, the local daily, Chosun Ilbo, said Saturday, sourcing it to RFA.

AWOL is a military acronym for "absence without leave."

“It’s hard to punish them because there are too many of such soldiers,” an unnamed North Korean informant, told RFA in the report.

It's not the first time I'm hearing about this.

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