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Has History forgotten a few intriguing Nazi weapon topics.

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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by sy.gunson
 
The Nazis "almost" had Nuclear weapons and a long range bomber to carry them and if that scenario had become a reality,Moscow,Leningrad,Stalingrad,New York City and other cities would have been severely crushed.If the Nazis had'nt driven out or killed off so many scientists,those scientists might have been able to build the A-Bomb for Germany before anyone else had it...



Nope you are wrong. No nearly about it. The Nazis did have the bomb and you can read about one of the nuclear weapons test blasts in none other than US archives. For example:

From COMNAVEU London dated 25 January 1946 intelligence report by Captain R.F. Hickey, USN, entitled “Investigations, Research, Developments and Practical Use of the German Atomic Bomb.” Top Secret Naval Attache Reports 1944-1947," located US NARA/RG 38, Box 9-13 Entry 98c...

...in which is cited the affidavit of Peenemunde artillery observer pilot Hans Zinsser; obtained by A.P.I.U. (Ninth Air Force) 96/1945 APO 696, U.S. Army, 19 August 1945." The report is classified secret. At it’s outset the report states:



the following information was obtained from four German scientists: a chemist, two physical chemists, and a rocket specialist [Zinsser]. All four men contributed a short story as to what they knew of the atomic bomb development.


The following is an excerpt from Zinsser’s affidavit:




At the beginning of October 1944, I flew from Ludwigslust (south of Luebeck) [to] about 12 to 15 km from an atomic bomb test station, when I noticed a strong, bright illumination of the whole atmosphere, lasting about 2 seconds.

The clearly visible pressure wave escaped the approaching and following cloud formed by the explosion. This wave had a diameter of about 1 km when it became visible and the colour of the cloud changed frequently. It became dotted after a short period of darkness with all sorts of light spots, which were, in contrast to normal explosions, of a pale blue colour.

After about ten seconds the sharp outlines of the explosion disappeared, then the cloud began to take on a lighter colour, against the sky covered with a grey overcast. The diameter of the still visible pressure wave was at least 9000 metres (9km) while remaining visible for at least 15 seconds.

Personal observations of the colours of the explosion cloud found an almost blue-violet shade. During this manifestation reddish-coloured rims were to be seen, changing to a dirty-like shade in very rapid succession.

The combustion was lightly felt from my observation plane in the form of pulling and pushing. The appearance of atmospheric disturbance lasted about ten seconds, without perceivable climax. About an hour later I started with an He-111 (aircraft) from the A/D at Ludwigslust and flew in an easterly direction. Shortly after the start I passed through almost complete overcast (between 3,000 and 4,000 meter altitude). A cloud shaped like a mushroom with turbulent billowing sections (at about 7,000 meter altitude) stood, without any seeming connections, over the spot where the explosion took place. Strong electrical disturbances and the impossibility to continue radio communication as by lightning, turned up.”


A footnote to the document further states Enclosure (A) is a discussion of the German atomic bomb. Listed are the principle scientists involved, plus what is known by them of similar developments in the United States. A short discussion of the materials required and the energy capable of being released is included. …. Whereabouts of this enclosure today are unknown. The portion of this report, declassified in the late ‘seventies, was signed by Captain Helenes T. Freiberger.

On the ground the test blast was witnessed by Italian correspondent Luigi Romersa. He was sent by Mussolini and told in advance that he was being sent to witness the testing of this new weapon and report back for Mussolini. Romersa recalled that inside the hermetically sealed bunker with him were three Japanese VIPs.

Corroboration came in a diplomatic signal "Stockholm to Tokyo:” No.232.9; December 1944 [War Department], National Archives, (records group) RG 457, declassified October 1, 1978. It recounts the use of nuclear weapons against the Soviets in 1943 and talks about a Uranium disintegrator bomb



The German atom-splitting device is the Neuman disintegrator. Enormous energy is directed into the central part of the atom and this generates an atomic pressure of several tens of thousands of tons per square inch. This device can split the relatively unstable atoms of such elements as uranium. Moreover, it brings into being a store of explosive atomic energy.... That is, a bomb deriving its force from the release of atomic energy




posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 10:53 PM
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Well I found this topic today:
www.bing.com...


Moreover, that fifty tons was just a small portion of what is today undoubtedly the biggest collection of captured enemy war secrets ever assembled. If you always thought of war secrets’ as who hasn’t?-as coming in sixes and sevens, as a few items of information readily handed on to the properly interested authorities, it may interest you to learn that the war secrets in this collection run into the thousands, that the mass of documents in mountainous, and that there has never before been anything quite comparable to it.

from third link doc file

www.scientistsandfriends.com...


The collection is today chiefly in three places; Wright Field (Ohio), the Library of Congress, and the Department of Commerce. Wright Field is working from a documents mother lode of fifteen hundred tons. In Washington, the Office of Technical Services (which has absorbed the Office of the Publication Board, the government agency originally set up to handle the collection)reports that tens of thousands of tons of material are involved. It is estimated that over a million separate items must be handled, and that they, very likely, contain practically all the scientific, industrial, and military secrets of Germany.


the 2nd paragraph.

By now the cartels have used the information for years.

The great Illuminati investments in Germany have payed off and still under their
control. Perhaps payed off enough to keep the Teslaship alive and flying 24/7
as some special creepy science they still do not understand cause they, the
.01%, sure are pitching us curve balls from ETs to dimensions to demons to
paranormal to you saw something else to its only the weather but it ain't no
Teslaship cause we would never say such a thing in an anti Tesla cartel conspiracy.

ED: I just read above the Nazi atomic bomb. So they had the bomb but no way
did the US acquire the Nazi material. I can't hold with that.
As the war was seeing how the chips would fall the intel services had a atomic
bomb to urn their freedom in the US and zap Japan as a consequence.
Sure Germany's hands are clean ol' Japan, America made their own bomb.
That just does not pan out.

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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 11:06 PM
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Recently i did watch a documentary about Nazis and Nuclear Weapons during WW-2 and it stated that they detonated a few "dirty bombs"...

Those types of devices were tested three times shortly before the end of World War II.One test occurred on the German island of Ruegen in the fall of 1944 and two more in the eastern state of Thuringia in March of 1945...

Did the Nazis Build an Atomic Bomb? > www.unmuseum.org...
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posted on Feb, 19 2012 @ 11:25 PM
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Germans were all about quality,not quantity and they still are,they'll build a few thousand very high quality, high performance bmw's and mercedes,while the usa and japan builds millions of cheap throwaway cars that they know are unsafe and will never last very long...

Heres some examples of german and nazi inventions and their technological and military prowess...

The nazis king tiger tanks were light years ahead of the allies sherman tanks..

The first military night vision devices were introduced by the german army as early as 1939.The first devices were being developed by the german aeg company starting in 1935...

Stealth technolgy was invented by the Horten brothers during the third reich...

Audio technology using magnetic tape was a third reich invention...

Their machine guns were extremely fast firing and shot circles around the allies guns...

Their super heavy seige motars and artillery cannons were terrifyingly awesome and powerful...

The world's first functional program controlled,turing complete computer,the Z3,was invented by Konrad Zuse in 1941...

Supposedly some of the reasons why the nazis were so advanced within so many different fields of technology for their time,was because they recovered two alien saucers that crashed,one in the black forest in 1936 and another one in poland in 1938 > greyfalcon.us...
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posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by blocula

Heres the 31 inch caliber Dora seige gun and other huge weapons like the Thor Mortar in action > video.google.com...#
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That is amazing. Excellent video.



posted on Feb, 20 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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They were not dirty bombs... The bombs were designed by Schumman and Trinks. After the war the Americans developed the Schumann / Trinks bomb into what we today call tactical nuclear weapons. The Schumann / Trinks bomb was not a dirty bomb. It was the forerunner of the Swann design of 1952.

It was a proper fission weapon but it was ignited by a fusion explosion involving Lithium and Deuterium. By late 1944 the SS were building a plant to make Trittium which has no use other than for fusion based nuclear weapons. The Nazi code word for Dueterium was SH.200 their codename for Trittium was SH.220.

People call them dirty bombs simply because they are unable to bring themselves to consider the possibility that Germany actually had the bomb in WW2. It contradicts all the programming and brain washing we ever had about WW2.

Come on grown ups... learn to think outside the box



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by sy.gunson
reply to post by TeslaandLyne
 


I have heard it repeated that before WW2 The Nazis and Japanese were fascinated with Tesla's claims that a machine could be made to fire a beam of energy that would shoot down fleets of bombers at great ranges. Both Germany and Japan became obsessed and the Nazis are supposed to have acquired all of Tesla's patents.

In Germany a man named Dr Schiebold did in fact build a particle beam weapon able to disrupt aircraft engines up to 30,000 feet.



Tesla's force beam might be a force waves beam and not particle.
This due to his ship using physical controls by wave action.
But then indeed the particles of charged matter in the crew and ship are indeed
particles the wave reverses or relaxes so no particle movement just the crew and
ship move in a wave. So my thinking on a force beam means some sort of wave
action as opposed to the popular belief in particle action.



posted on Feb, 21 2012 @ 10:06 AM
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Is this one of those types of weapons?...A betatron is a cyclotron developed to accelerate electrons,the concepts ultimately originate from Rolf Widerøe and previous development occurred in Germany through Max Steenbeck in the 1930s.The betatron is essentially a transformer with a torus-shaped vacuum tube as its secondary coil. An alternating current in the primary coils accelerates electrons in the vacuum around a circular path > en.wikipedia.org...

Heres another one that most people have probably never even heard about...Original Nazi Death Star Space Station > www.combobulate.com...

Nazi Sound Cannon > wweapons.blogspot.com...

Nazi Vortex Gun > community.discovery.com...

Its no wonder the Nazis put us into space and onto the moon...
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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 11:28 AM
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Those might be documented very well since you can identify these weapons.
What I like to peruse is not only forgotten but some of the fuzzy never fully reported advances.
www.bing.com...
the 3rd link
www.scientistsandfriends.com...
gives you the word doc download

So called thousands of Germany's advances along with the night vision ability.
What I center on is any Tesla related work in Germany, we won't see any museums
on German Americans and Tesla secret work ever as we will never see any Teslaships.

From the little foo to whatever we have now is suppressed by the .01% now in charge.
All those technological advances taken as spoils of war just kept the .01% in the position
to build ships or any device or theories independent of what they want us to know.

Fine if one likes to realm in what is know but since the unknown is surly a fact to deal
with I'll assume there is something to the suspicions.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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If Germany did follow Tesla as we know all the statements Tesla made were quite
fantastic and if the Tesla researchers are right in their opinions then Germany had
far greater atom splitting, Tesla dissolved every substance know to man in his
experimental bulbs, and flight or weapons ability than the ill fated foo air ship.

The AC flow pulses one way and thus dissolved matter. This operation was called
electrostatic by Tesla and only followed briefly by a JJ Thompson at one time.
I don't see this how solids are formed but shows how forces can be made. To me
this means any ship made by Tesla using electrostatic means is losing some
atoms as it fly's along. William R. Lyne in "Pentagon Aliens" assumes this fact
as he mentions the ship metal should experience pitting at the air surface.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 02:43 PM
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I'm suspicious of things that send particles around and around.
If Tesla could build up millions of volts who knows what came out of his radiant
tubes when worked in reverse when connected to that large voltage.

The van der Graff is still the standard of high voltage generation yet Tesla wrote
a comparison to his coils that would do the same in far less space.
Only Tesla kept his techniques hidden except for mild demos in 1891 and 1892
and the rest was patents he never divulged the full reasons and press announcements
and government projects he submitted that were rejected. The van der Graff failed
in comparison to the Tesla coil for the dentist X-Ray machine to generate the voltage
reliably. According to Bill Lyne the Graff needed a pressure chamber, or vacuum I
can't recall, to generate the voltage and may have been too unwieldy. The science
monitors would surly not give up a Tesla technology if they didn't have to or we would
still be using the Graff generator.



posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by blocula
reply to post by TeslaandLyne
 
Is this one of those types of weapons?...A betatron is a cyclotron developed to accelerate electrons,the concepts ultimately originate from Rolf Widerøe and previous development occurred in Germany through Max Steenbeck in the 1930s.The betatron is essentially a transformer with a torus-shaped vacuum tube as its secondary coil. An alternating current in the primary coils accelerates electrons in the vacuum around a circular path > en.wikipedia.org...



Betatrons are not weapons however particle beam weapons are often based on modified Betatron devices. All these are are devices which spin particles at high speeds in a vacuum chamber under the influence of powerful induced electro-magnetic energy. It is their use and modification which renders them as weapons but more commonly they are research tools creating artificial radiation.

Just to comment on the first part a Betatron was an advancement on the Cyclotron. Betatron was the german name for it. The Betatron patent was sold by Seimens just a day before the invasion of Poland to general Electric and was later employed for the Manhattan project to enrich Uranium known in USA by it's American name the CALTRON (or Caultron) thus named for the California Institute of technology. Kerst fled Germany from persecution.

In a simple Cyclotron the power is not great and in the plasma between two magnets, particles spiral outwards to the edges.

In a Betatron the particles are maintained in a circular orbit, usually by frequency modulation of the electrical energy input, thus they become known as Synchrotrons for synchronising the phase of the input with the frequency of waves of particles traveling around the core. Most synchrotrons like CERN etc have complex electro magnets in coils around a doughnut torus tube which is an evacuated vacuum chamber.

Containment of the great heat energy is a serious issue for these synchrotrons.

The Nazi Bell device however was an ST or Spherical Torus in which the particles themselves created their own magnetic containment field. According to Rolf Wideroe the Nazi device contained two spherical chambers one inside and concentric to the other on a common axle.

Compounds placed at the axle in flasks would be evaporated and the vapour would escape into the spherical Torus chamber to interact with the plasma.

I am not a scientist. My grasp is thus limited and sometimes flawed.
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posted on Feb, 22 2012 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
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...The science monitors would surly not give up a Tesla technology if they didn't have to or we would
still be using the Graff generator.


In USA before WW2 the lack of sophistication in science then contrasted with that of pre-war Germany. It was I suspect a case that in USA people could not conceive the potential for his work and failed to develop it.

The Nazis did develop huge Van der Graff generators during WW2 with up to 6 MeV energy and then developed the ST Spherical Torus to step up the power and capabilities further.



posted on Feb, 24 2014 @ 07:09 PM
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blocula
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I heard mentioned in a ww-2 documentary that there was a top secret spy amongst the german high command,a spy sent from either russia,usa or england,who to this day is supposedly still unknown,is that true? have you ever heard of that? That is definitely what the documentary said was true and if so who was it?


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There were a number of concerned Germans who leaked information to the OSS whom I know of. A man named Muller in the military patent office leaked details of weapons development via a Reichstag economist and Treasury official Dr Erwin Respondeck. They used Catholic priests to smuggle information to the OSS in Switzerland.



posted on Feb, 24 2014 @ 07:18 PM
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At the very end of the war a pack of five U-boats including U-873 were tasked to attack USA in April 1945 with a missile attack. Trawling through German language websites I discovered the plan was to fire Rheinbote surface to air missiles with launch rails attached to modified 88mm deck guns. Rockets would have been stored in under-deck canisters originally intended for torpedo reloads.

The only nuclear weapon project capable of providing an atomic warhead for this missile was the Schumann-Trinks boosted fission device with 5kg warheads of >1kt




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