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Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
This may be a stupid question, but how does Mr. Jennings' eyewitness account prove the claim that there was a three story bulge in WTC 7? Why would there be all this damage to the interior lobby of WTC 7, while the exterior of the building only showed some isolated fires on about four floors? Could it be that the damage to the interior lobby of WTC 7 was cause by bombs within that building?
It doesn't It proves there was massive damage to the building before it collapsed, which the truthers are religiously denying for their perverse "no planes hit WTC 7" propaganda. A plane may not have hit WTC 7, but it's perfectly obvious that wreckage from WTC 1 *did* hit WTC 7...unless you think King Kong really did come through the WTC 7 lobby and wrecked the place, as Jennings described the damage as looking like...?
The bombs excuse is getting tired. It's blatantly obvious there were fire fighters, police, rescue workers, reporters, etc, and Jennings himself said the lobby was chock full of such people. Not a single person seems to know anything about any massive explosion in WTC 7 powerful enough to take out the lobby before WTC 1 collapsed, and it's ridiculous to claim everyone in Manhattan simply just forgot about it.
WTC 1 was just flipping huge, and when it fell, falling wreckage even smashed up a church several blocks away. Why is anyone even argung over such a ridiculous point?.
Originally posted by Dogdish
reply to post by TrueFalse
Wow, is right! Just when I was about to give up hope on GoodOlDave, he has a breakthrough.
I guess we could see it coming, back when he was calling truthers trusters.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Originally posted by Dogdish
reply to post by TrueFalse
Wow, is right! Just when I was about to give up hope on GoodOlDave, he has a breakthrough.
I guess we could see it coming, back when he was calling truthers trusters.
What do you mean? The truthers ARE trusters. They explicitely trust everything Dylan Avery, Alex Jones, Morgan Reynolds, et al are pushing our regardless of how many times they've been caught passing off drivel. I can see right away you're trusters when I post eyewitness accounts who were physically there at the Pentagon and saw what it was that hit it...who all you conspiracy people insist are lying. WHY do you insist all the eyewitnesses are lying? From some video some anonymous conspiracy monger made on his home computer and posted on Youtube. Right.
Who here wants to take the bet that someone won't come here within the next few months and post, "Go watch Loose Change"? Good grief, people, wake up!
Originally posted by TrueFalse
wow dave.
so you are actually believing berry jennings... the man who was trapped on the 6th floor of WTC 7 cause and explosion happend beneath him and made it impossible to escape...
And why did the lobby look like King Kong would go through it? He was walking over corpses in the lobby, did you know that? How could there be dead bodies in the lobby of WTC 7 ?
Really nice, your are going into the right direction, but there is still much research for you to do to find out that the OS is bs.
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Your, "approximate collapse plume" is false. There was a gigantic crater in the roof of WTC 5 from where a large piece of wreckage from WTC 1 fell on it. This crater is the same distance from WTC 1 as WTC 7 was.
Originally posted by backinblack
Because we'd like to see the proof with some pics from one of the thousands of cameras around on that day Dave..Surely someone took a pic of these raging fires and 3 storey bulge....
And I mean real pics..Not the altered ones please,,
Originally posted by brigand
How can you say that they are the same distance apart? Even from your own picture WTC 7 is quite a bit farther away... Not to mention the Verizon building next door taking zero damage at all. The reason we are so focused on building 7 is this.. If we can prove it was taken down with a controlled demolition then it can be concluded that the explosives necessary to bring such a large building down were already in place before the attack. If they were not, it would be impossible to lay amidst such a raging inferno.
Just know this.. on 9/11/2001, 3 steel frame buildings totally collapsed due to fire.. No steel framed structure ever had a full collapse (and i stress FULL) due to fire, but on 9/11 3 fell with full collapse. Doesn't that make you wonder?
Originally posted by Sky watcher
reply to post by GoodOlDave
I guess you missed the massive documentary explaining how bad they lied about the Pentagon too? Many police and Pentagon security personnel seen the plane fly over the Pentagon, bank and fly away as the building exploded. The air liner did a fake bombing run and even the dam cab driver admitted that he was in on the deal. His wife worked for the FBI. He spilled his guts when they were trying to get him to tell them where his car was after he claimed it was not on the bridge that morning with the pole damaging it. He thought the camera wasn't recording.
Busted!!!! Everything about that day was set up to fool you and I. Hell the end of the first video proves it was staged.
The church was one block away from WTC Tower 2, which was closer than WTC 7 was from WTC Tower 1.
Originally posted by okbmd
reply to post by SphinxMontreal
The church was one block away from WTC Tower 2, which was closer than WTC 7 was from WTC Tower 1.
There was also damage to buildings at the corner of Chambers street and West Broadway , which is a full 4 blocks north/northeast of WTC7 .
So , what's your point ?
Originally posted by SphinxMontreal
"So we go back to Fire Chief Hayden about the bulge witnessed by the NYFD."
Only one guy notices a three story (approx. 30 feet) bulge in WTC 7? And nobody bothered to snap a picture of this? Okey dokey.
"Also which side of the exterior are you talking about? Did you forget that a building has FOUR sides?"
Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Your, "approximate collapse plume" is false. There was a gigantic crater in the roof of WTC 5 from where a large piece of wreckage from WTC 1 fell on it. This crater is the same distance from WTC 1 as WTC 7 was.
Fire fighters reported that the collapse of WTC 1 destroyed the water supplies to teh fire suppression systems in WTC 7. They also reported that the fires were burning out of control and were causing three story tall bulges in the structure. This necessarily gives the NIST report at least some measure of credibility, and necessarily means you conspiracy people are resorting to grasping at some pretty far fetched straws to keep your conspiracy stories alive.edit on 22-11-2010 by GoodOlDave because: (no reason given)