THREE new planets photographed in the sky!! nibiru? eris? sackloth?

reply to post by ZionFreak


i just read your post after i made mine but i stated some extra info on the subject. i dont know where this guy came up with sackcloth being a planet. just by reading the passages in the bible you can clearly see that it does not refer to a planet but more of an emotion if you will. i think he means wormwood ( even thou wormwood is stated as being a star) but it is still up for interpretation.but yeah i agree with you

ONE QUESTION .......when u took the pic with the Iphone ,the windows of your car where DOWN????

reply to post by this_is_who_we_are


All statements need to be considered in their historical setting. The perturbations of Uranus and Neptune were due to an incorrect estimated mass of Neptune. Once the corrected mass was used the perturbations issue went away. The statement made was based on the information available at that time, but new information has shown that the statement was incorrect.

from what i can see, the blue dot is not behind any chemtrail at all. the red one neither. the white sphere looks like the moon. i would say the other two are nothing significant and the way this guy goes on to say that everything will be gone is sheerly ridiculous it is absolute speculation at best. he acts like he knows what he is talking about but clearly doesnt. there is no way to substantiate anythiing that is in the video.

its a waste of time.

reply to post by this_is_who_we_are


The object is predicted to stay out half a light year or better from the inner solar system. The object is called Tycho if I recall and is not shown to have a high probability of existing.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


The claims that the solar system is heating up are just internet poppycock. It's the same lame game as is being played in this thread. I'm surprised no one is claiming conspiracy because the hottest days of the year are well after the longest day of the year. Did you know that many northern lakes are too cold to swim in until after the 4th of July and the longest day of the year when the lakes should be the hottest is June 21st.

It must be:
1. The Ebil Gummint
2. TSA fondling of bodies
3. Chemtrails
4. The blood of the baby tunas that is polluting our glaciers

And yes the tilt of the Earth, the tilt of the Moon's orbit around the Earth make the positions of the Sun and Moon appear to change over time. I'm glad you noticed. It's a wonderful thing to observe.

reply to post by this_is_who_we_are


Nice drawing. Only problem is that such an orbit would be detected in the orbits of the known planets. A number of papers have been written putting constraints on the positions of new planet sized objects in our solar system. The result is that no new planet could have an orbit that enters the orbits of the known planets.

reply to post by this_is_who_we_are


The claim that only the south pole could view the object is laughable. Try to approach a ball. You see half. On the Earth the half visible could see the approaching object. Because the Earth rotates no matter where the object lies in space at least half of the Earth's surface allows the object to be seen.

reply to post by this_is_who_we_are


The South Pole telescope is a radio telescope simply because it is cold enough there to do the type of imaging.

Why aren't these objects/planets visible on a perfectly clear, blue-sky day? I mean, sure, they show up during a chemtrail EXTRAVAGANZA, but why aren't these objects otherwise visible? And, shouldn't I be able to see them from sunny Florida if they are visible from Indiana? Something doesn't make sense. Please, anyone, explain.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


I'm not doubting the possibility that it could be Niburu anything is possible.What is weird is the people who assume it's a lens flare when they don't really know.

Good thread though.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


The reason that telescopes have not put there before is that it is hard to get there. It is hard to keep a place supplied. If there are medical problems it is hard to get people out. Use your noggin.

It's dark half the time. It is light half the time. It is also very cold for extended periods of time making some observations possible without placing the observatory in space.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


Again you demonstrate a remarkable ability to be wrong. The SPT is a telescope in the microwave range. That frequency is heavily attenuated by water. Due to the cold there is little water to absorb the signal.

reply to post by NWOnoworldorder


That is the most meaningless post to date. So far all you've done is post a lot of mistakes about everything from beachings being indicative of a change in gravity, to the South Pole telescopes, an admitted lack of knowledge about lens flares, confusing magnetic and gravitational forces, a lack of being able to show where the planets lie, not understanding gravitational models of the solar system, having the false idea that volcanic eruptions and earthquakes are associated with gravitational effects and you think you are on to something?

Is this you using sarcasm, the lowest form of wit? Possibly, but I doubt it.

reply to post by DjOsiris


Wow. Another person asking for self censorship. Typically a last ditch effort before admitting being wrong.

Originally posted by here4awhile
interesting, but I'm not totally convinced by the video to be honest, I would personally like some die hard proof but it seems completely impossible to find...

On a side note...after reading through the vast majority of posts in this thread, why is it that when i read a few of them, they scream DISINFORMATION in my head (I won't name which as it's probably kind of obvious)...maybe I'm wrong and they're just hardcore skeptics bent on proving anything and everything wrong, but by posting no evidence themselves...that's my 2 cents anyway

I know what you mean about the some of the "debunkers" on this thread. The posts often ooze with exaggerated elitism and ridicule with little information to back up the stance. It is like they are furious that the picture was posted or that chemtrails were even mentioned. When anyone pushes their conspiracy crazy button, it is always "prove it to me." Like they are everyone else's self annointed superiors of the Universe and deserve even the attention of others to do their research for them. People should say "prove what I said was not true or take a hike!" Really, it is not neccessary to permit them to derail discussions.

I very much appreciate the people with real knowledge who have shared in a sane way about lense flare as it relates to the picture under discussion. However, many other debunkers did not address the actual lense flare in the picture being discussed. It is some of the "debunkers" beleive that if lense flare happens then everything is lense flare cause they said so. And I was very impressed with the "debunker" who suggested anyone who discusses conspiracy theories be flogged. The the spirit of western intellegence and exploration!

First of all, the title and article is stating that in fact there are 3 new planets on our Solar system. Oh really? Lets take a look. And since Mr. Kemner has self copyrighted his images; I presume so that no one can analyze them, I will invoke 17 U.S.C. § 107, or Fair Use, since I will be criticizing and researching these images free of charge.

First let us look at the scale of these objects in comparison to the Sun. Nibiru is allegedly only 4 times larger than the Earth. The below picture is Mr. Kemners, with the Sun without its glare added in. The exact scale of the picture is unknown, so I made the sun a little bit larger than I think the scale would be for good measure to the purpose of my analysis.

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The first thing I notice is the size of these objects in comparison to the Sun. They are rather large wouldnt you agree?

The second thing I notice is the distance between the Objects. Mr. Kemner has stated that these other objects are the Moons that orbit, uh hum, sackloth.

Here is the scale of the planets compared to the Sun.

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Hmmmm, we have a problem Houston. For the turquoise; sorry teal, object is either larger or the same size roughly as Jupiter. Jupiter is 318 times larger than the Earth in mass.

So, either these objects are far away from the Sun, which would make them larger than Jupiter, or they are close to the Sun. If they are farther away from the Sun, then how much distance is between Sackloth, and its Moons? It would seem that it is a great distance. No? Appears to be roughly the same distance as the teal object is to the Sun. I wonder then how many millions of miles apart the Moons are from Sackloth?

If in fact these objects are in our Solar System, and near the Sun, then why isnt the Sun reacting already due to the very large gravity well of these objects. We would be seeing electrical disturbances in the plasma field of the Sun like we have NEVER seen before, no?

This is what I think. I think these images are graphic manipulation. I dont think they are there but have been added by Mr. Kemner. I think the grey object that is closest to the Sun is a dust particle in the Camera or on the lens. If the objects are not outright manipulation, then they are some type of anomaly, because they are not lens flare.

reply to post by bastet11


But can you also see the object without using a camera? I doubt it.

Can you get the image while blocking the sunlight from the camera? I doubt it.

reply to post by DjOsiris


Actually the so-called debunkers are showing in rather simple terms how these claims are rather ridiculous. Maybe you didn't take the time to read the posts that show how these objects do look like lens flares and how gravity works and how silly the claims of beachings are and maybe you'd learn how inane it is to think that anything could sneak up on the Earth by approaching the South Pole.

reply to post by Cole DeSteeleBottom line - What this guy proposes as these being planets or even planetoids is proposturous. As stated earlier, the gravitational interruption caused by the proximity of another planet being this close to Earth to be rendered so clearly by a phone cam would be catastrophic...and we would have felt its effect in a much less subtle way than a few earthquakes/ hurricanes here and there.

Now three planets in our sky at the same time?

We wouldn't survive long enough to see them like this. The Earth's atmosphere would be stripped bare, along with our moon (or chunks of it, anyway), and solar winds would have swept Earth clean of every living thing long before we could take the culprits' mugshot with a befrigged iphone.

I mean wow. Just wow.


Well spoken and well put. Too many people trying to streach out a thread to moronic proportions! Cool signature too!