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THREE new planets photographed in the sky!! nibiru? eris? sackloth?

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posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 09:25 PM
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Another hoax. Been discussed a lot, already.

The "chemtrail" language (and some "UFO" language, too) was slipped in. By some nutjobs ....

Kucinich (like the majority of people in Congress) didn't read the Bill fully, t first. People like him count on others to do it for them. They get a briefing, on the gist and contents.

Here's how it all went down:


The initial version of the act is the only one that makes mention of “exotic weapons systems”, listing several technologies that will be familiar to conspiracy theorists:

(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii) chemtrails;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.
Yes, it even includes “extraterrestrial weapons”, meaning weapons created by aliens (or created from alien technology from crashed flying saucers at Roswell), as well as psychotronic (mind control) weapons. Yet somehow “chemtrails” gets all the attention here.

Who wrote this? The original language for the bill was actually created by Alfred Webre and Carol Rosin. See, from Webre’s web site:

www.exopolitics.com...

With Dr. Carol S. Rosin and many others....


Link is: contrailscience.com...

Kucinich was had...punked. Fooled. AND, the Bill was revised, once the nonsense was pointed out.

More:


So what’s Kucinich’s involvement in this? It’s difficult to say. Kucinich is anti-war, so perhaps that’s his motivation. He does have a lot of new-age, UFO-believing, friends, but he’s also running for president. When he was made aware of the nature of the “exotic weapons” language in the bill, it was re-written, and when questioned about it, he said

“I’m not into that. Understand me. When I found out that was in there, I said, ‘Look, I’m not interested in going there.’”

[skip]

If you actually ARE a conspiracy theorist, then all this will come as little surprise to you. You will already believe the government is covering up technology based on crashed UFOs. Yet HR2977 is constantly being mentioned solely to make the case that “chemtrails” are something the government is aware of. The reality is that they were simply given a passing mention in bill written by new-age UFO conspiracy theorists and sponsored by an eccentric politician, all of who believe in things that are far more unusual than “chemtrails”.




This sort of garbage is typical of how the hoax is perpetuated. AND, selective picking and choosing, and spinning of information continues, omitting certain details. It is also a well-known tactic.

It is BIG MONEY, this hoax, and all the cottage industry it provides. Lots of incentive to keep it "alive"....both for that reason, and as mentioned, because of the fringe "believers"....who have some serious mental deficiencies, it seems...

BTW...if you haven't heard of Carol Rosin, and the "Disclosure Project", look them up. And Stephen Greer too. Con artist, and bunk artist, in the "UFO" field.....
edit on 22 November 2010 by weedwhacker because: (no reason given)




posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by midniteracerx
Warning, I didn't watch the whole video. My bs radar went off after 2 seconds. However, I did read 6 pages of this thread, which was probably 5 too many. I noticed that a couple of photographers have already weighed in with their opinion. I'm also a photographer that strongly believes we are looking at lens flares. I'd put all of my money on it.. . .


Wow - nice work in enhancing and bringing out the details. Thanks for posting this. On a side note, they got some kinda crazy flight paths/patterns going on there with all those contrails criss crossing



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 09:41 PM
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hey, hey wacker, hey wacker






posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 09:43 PM
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....they got some kinda crazy flight paths/patterns going on there ....


Not really.

Pull out your maps, look at the Midwest, and where all the cities are located, in many different directions. Picture (or draw on the map) lines between the major cities, especially from the various airline's hub airports (Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Denver, Detroit, Minneapolis...just to name several) to other cities, as they would fly them, in real life.

Here's www.flightaware.com... too.

A resource for live, real-time airline (and others) flight tracking, in North America. Interactive maps, and everything. Designed primarily for pilots and aviation professionals, even the layperson can glean some info from it, once you learn your way around. Great resource for LOTS of other info, too...for pilots, anyway.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 09:45 PM
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Text Actually sackcloth is not a planet but a symbol of repentance as in "repenting in sackcloth and ashes." Can you tell me where in scripture that sackcloth is a planet? I was looking and couldn't find it. By definition sackcloth "was originally a garment or undergarment made of coarse cloth or animal hair (a hairshirt) used in some religious traditions to induce some degree of discomfort or pain as a sign of repentance and atonement. In more modern religious circles, the word has come to simply mean any device worn for the same purposes."



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 09:47 PM
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There's a Planet in My Kitchen!




posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 09:50 PM
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My native American brothers call that the Blue Kachina

It has returned as the story foretold - this is the end. I am now sure of it, if this is in fact legit our time is at an end!



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 09:54 PM
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Knock it off - that really peels my hide! ah hahahahahaha



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:11 PM
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Until i can see it with my own 2 eyes not through some of the same blurry videos showing what appears to be nothing be sundogs (again), i'm not gonna believe this. They've been saying that Nibiru was going to be visible by the end of this year and we still dont see anything. I dont believe that a planet with a supposedly 3200 years orbits is gonna come in go within a 2-3 years period, it doesnt make any sense. If that thing has a 3200 years orbits it should be visible decades before even coming close to earth.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:19 PM
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This is a typical mistake made about objects in space. You see objects because they emit, but also reflect. Jupiter is essentially a small brown dwarf. It emits infrared, but is also reflective.

Your statement is thus an obvious failure.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:24 PM
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Chemtrails are real....the Uk government admitted to spraying the population from 1940-1979....they would also not comment on whether or not they were still doing it


Heres a link : Chemtriail 1940-1979 and beyond UK

As for the pic im not clever enough to tell whats going on....i do however believe if this guy caught this on his phone then it would be visable to all....so il have a look outside when its a bit lighter ( is only 4:30am UK lol)

Something so big would be visable by everyone....i know myself that i rarely pay much attention to whats going on in the skies....i think a lot of people are the same and just dont bother checking.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:25 PM
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The idea that the planets wouldn't move due to a new large mass in the solar system, but volcanic eruptions and earthquakes is simply making me roar with laughter.

Even though the moon and sun are very close to the Earth and cause tidal effects, it has not been possible to generally show that the gravitational effects of these bodies influence either volcanic activity or earthquakes. There are some minor exceptions. There might be some cases in which shallow oceanic crust Earthquakes may be associated with the moon.

In general you are quite mistaken.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:26 PM
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Well my friend I hate to tell you but this was not a hoax and you can read it in full text at this link.

www.govtrack.us...

So you are saying this man who praises Jaime Maussan ( a well known hoaxer talked about this many times before here on ATS) is the one who wrote this bill? Funny because the only person that sponsored this bill in 2001 was Rep. Dennis Kucinich [D-OH10]. Also please show me where this bill has any of this in it.


Yes, it even includes “extraterrestrial weapons”, meaning weapons created by aliens (or created from alien technology from crashed flying saucers at Roswell), as well as psychotronic (mind control) weapons. Yet somehow “chemtrails” gets all the attention here


This bill was never passed and it has been brought up a few other times and funny here is a list of co sponsors for this bill from 2001 to 2006 and guess what I cannot seem to find these names anywhere in the sponsors.

Alfred Webre - House of Representatives - Big No
Carol Rosin. - House of Representatives - Big No

Co Sponsors of the bill from 2001-2006


Neil Abercrombie [D-HI1]
Tammy Baldwin [D-WI2]
Sherrod Brown [D-OH13]
John Conyers [D-MI14]
Danny Davis [D-IL7]
Peter DeFazio [D-OR4
Chaka Fattah [D-PA2]
Bob Filner [D-CA51]
Barney Frank [D-MA4]
Raul Grijalva [D-AZ7]
Maurice Hinchey [D-NY22]
Rush Holt [D-NJ12]
Michael Honda [D-CA15]
Jesse Jackson [D-IL2]
Barbara Lee [D-CA9]
Carolyn Maloney [D-NY14]
James McDermott [D-WA7]
James McGovern [D-MA3]
Cynthia McKinney [D-GA4]
Gregory Meeks [D-NY6]
Michael Michaud [D-ME2]
George Miller [D-CA7]
Gwen Moore [D-WI4]
Jerrold Nadler [D-NY8
Major Owens [D-NY11]
Nick Rahall [D-WV3]
Bernard Sanders [I-VT]
José Serrano [D-NY16]
Fortney Stark [D-CA13]
John Tierney [D-MA6]
Edolphus Towns [D-NY10]
Nydia Velázquez [D-NY12]
Maxine Waters [D-CA35]
Diane Watson [D-CA33]
Lynn Woolsey [D-CA6]
John Conyers [D-MI14]
Raul Grijalva [D-AZ7]
Maurice Hinchey [D-NY22]
Joseph Hoeffel [D-PA13]


So you may want to think about your source there because a member of the House of Representative does not take and let someone that is not a member of congress to write bills for them. Also I might question someone that is giving praise to Mr.Jaime (known hoaxer) Maussan, because guess what he lied. The link I provided will show the full bill text and well just enjoy the read.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:27 PM
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The ancients never talked about there being 12 planets. The only person doing that was the fraud called Sitchin who purposely misrepresented the Sumerians.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by arizonascott
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My native American brothers call that the Blue Kachina

It has returned as the story foretold - this is the end. I am now sure of it, if this is in fact legit our time is at an end!


I thought the blue kachina was the NEAT comet, the one that was buried by all the astronomical societies and organisations because of its "religious implications".



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:31 PM
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You may be getting your information from NASA, but it is important to understand that what you are inferring from the statements made by NASA are wrong. Just because the primary emission is in the infrared range, does not mean that other processes are not at work. Even Pluto can be spotted by the sunlight it reflects. All of the gas giants reflect sunlight. A brown dwarf is bigger than Jupiter and also would reflect sunlight.

So when you come to a conclusion that seems to be wrong don't suppose that you are right. Just go back to the material and find out where you made the mistake.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:31 PM
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Oh, no you didn't!!!!.

That never seems to get old does it?



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:34 PM
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Hey stereo, is that you in the lower left of this mural that is in the centre fresco of BANK OF AMERICA CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS? Ive always wanted a space suit. Or is that a lead lined hazmat suit you think?







posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:34 PM
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sackcloth is not a name of a planet or a comet. sackcloth was a cloth made of goat or camel hair. more explained below. but the passages in the bible that talk about the sky or the sun being as sackcloth are just meaning that they will be covered under Christ's control. at least that is my opinion. but the bible is clearly not talking about a planet or anything of the sort when it talks about sackcloth. i think the name that the OP and maker of the video is looking for, is wormwood.

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Term originally denoting a coarsely woven fabric, usually made of goat's hair. It afterward came to mean also a garment made from such cloth, which was chiefly worn as a token of mourning by the Israelites. It was furthermore a sign of submission (I Kings xx. 30 et seq.), and was occasionally worn by the Prophets. Read more: www.jewishencyclopedia.com...


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Revelation 6:12


New International Version (©1984) I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,

New Living Translation (©2007) I watched as the Lamb broke the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake. The sun became as dark as black cloth, and the moon became as red as blood.

English Standard Version (©2001) When he opened the sixth seal, I looked, and behold, there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black as sackcloth, the full moon became like blood,

New American Standard Bible (©1995) I looked when He broke the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth made of hair, and the whole moon became like blood;

International Standard Version (©2008) Then I saw the lamb open the sixth seal. There was a powerful earthquake. The sun turned as black as sackcloth made of hair, and the full moon turned as red as blood.


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Isaiah 50:3


New International Version (©1984) I clothe the sky with darkness and make sackcloth its covering."

New Living Translation (©2007) I dress the skies in darkness, covering them with clothes of mourning."

English Standard Version (©2001) I clothe the heavens with blackness and make sackcloth their covering.”

New American Standard Bible (©1995) "I clothe the heavens with blackness And make sackcloth their covering."

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995) I clothe the heavens in darkness and cover them with sackcloth.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:41 PM
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Beaching animals is not related to gravitational forces. How do we know? Is there a correlation between the sun and moon and beachings? No.

You guess is a failure. Beachings are not correlated with the gravitational forces of the objects large and close to the Earth.



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