Mystery backer from foundation x revealed..

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
Has there been any consideration of the fact that haulage firms are so ofter...how shall I put this?...Mobbed-up?

Not in Middlewich they aren't.

Not unless they are getting protection money from the tea-rooms and shaking down the folk festival.

This Alan Carr sounds like a fantasist, and I haven't seen a shred of evidence to say that Lord James hasn't been hoaxed.

£22bn to pay for infrastructure projects? Offered through some doddery Lord? It's bollocks - which is pretty much the opinion reported round Westminster.

Originally posted by Korg Trinity
Don't think we need to consider that angle anymore since the trail leads to a company with an anual turnover of around 19 billion....

Korg.

They are separate companies. Alan Carr's business is tiny, and run by his family:

www.companiesintheuk.co.uk...

It's also going to be bankrupted by a road closure:

In December, Alan Barr, who runs BHP Transport in Cledford Lane, also said he thought the closure could bankrupt his small haulage company.

I hardly think this would be the case if it was part of some global empire.

Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke

Originally posted by Korg Trinity
Don't think we need to consider that angle anymore since the trail leads to a company with an anual turnover of around 19 billion....

Korg.

They are separate companies. Alan Carr's business is tiny, and run by his family:

www.companiesintheuk.co.uk...

It's also going to be bankrupted by a road closure:

In December, Alan Barr, who runs BHP Transport in Cledford Lane, also said he thought the closure could bankrupt his small haulage company.

I hardly think this would be the case if it was part of some global empire.

It's a subsiduary... Of course it's a seperate business.... Subsiduries have to balance thier own books, and yes subsiduries can go bust.

Korg.

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You dug up some really good information there.. Thanks for taking the time and the effort..
The more information that comes out the stranger this story seems...

Originally posted by Korg Trinity


It's a subsiduary... Of course it's a seperate business.... Subsiduries have to balance thier own books, and yes subsiduries can go bust.

Subsideries are not separate businesses. By definition a subsidiary is a company of which more than 50% of the voting shares are owned by another corporation.

Alan Carr's BHP Transport has nothing to do with the BHP Hilton, the massive mining firm.

Alan Carr's business was started by him, and is run and owned by his family, and you can see from the Companies House link that they borrowed money from the Royal Bank of Scotland.

Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke

Originally posted by Korg Trinity


It's a subsiduary... Of course it's a seperate business.... Subsiduries have to balance thier own books, and yes subsiduries can go bust.

Subsideries are not separate businesses. By definition a subsidiary is a company of which more than 50% of the voting shares are owned by another corporation.

Alan Carr's BHP Transport has nothing to do with the BHP Hilton, the massive mining firm.

Alan Carr's business was started by him, and is run and owned by his family, and you can see from the Companies House link that they borrowed money from the Royal Bank of Scotland.

edit on 22/11/10 by FatherLukeDuke because: (no reason given)

Perhaps subsidiary is not the correct word to use in the business sense, let’s just say that there are links between the two companies...

Perhaps this Alan Carr is related somehow to BHP Billiton.... perhaps this is the reason he is being used as a go between or a fence if you like...

BHP Billiton does fit the bill of Foundation X... They have been around the right length of time... They are the world’s largest mining company, proficient in mining Diamonds and Producing Platinum, not to mention the oil and Steel side of the business....

Korg.

Originally posted by Korg Trinity
Perhaps subsidiary is not the correct word to use in the business sense, let’s just say that there are links between the two companies...

I fail to see any. Have you any evidence? Lots of companies share the same names.

BHP Billiton does fit the bill of Foundation X...

Which bits of Lord James' description does it fit?

Anyway, why would a global mining company behave in such a strangle manner? Getting small-town businessmen to contact doddery Lords to offer £17bn in investment? It could just invest in the UK like everyone else does - by buying government bonds, or bidding on contracts.

Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke

Originally posted by Korg Trinity
Perhaps subsidiary is not the correct word to use in the business sense, let’s just say that there are links between the two companies...

I fail to see any. Have you any evidence? Lots of companies share the same names.

BHP Billiton does fit the bill of Foundation X...

Which bits of Lord James' description does it fit?

Anyway, why would a global mining company behave in such a strangle manner? Getting small-town businessmen to contact doddery Lords to offer £17bn in investment? It could just invest in the UK like everyone else does - by buying government bonds, or bidding on contracts.

You don't know what associates Alan Carr has or who he knows. As to why I have previously stated that I thought it a way to devalue gold but have since reconsidered this.

If you buy Bonds you have no direct say in how the funds are used, and normally is an financial investment, what I can say of the Foundation X proposition is that it was direct.

Some say why invest in something that does not have a direct positive effect on the financial stability of the UK such as hospitals etc... The truth is if this is funded from a third party the funds the government would have used can be spent to pay of the deficit.

The short answer is I am just as much in the dark as anyone else about the motives behind the Foundation X offer. Maybe the offer is as it seems at face value with no indirect negative payload so to speak...

My personal view is we are doing the right thing from the top down, we have the ability to get ourselves out of debt... the trouble is we don’t have control over what else happens in the world between now and 2015. If we are hit with another wave of negativity in the world financially we could be in serious trouble.

Korg.

Originally posted by Korg Trinity
You don't know what associates Alan Carr has or who he knows.

Well, neither do you frankly. However, there is no evidence that he has any connection to the global mining giant.

The short answer is I am just as much in the dark as anyone else about the motives behind the Foundation X offer.

..or even if they exist...

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By the same token could this guy's story be utter BS as well?

Originally posted by Misterlondon
reply to post by Korg Trinity

 

Good work!! Now the alarm bells are ringing a little.. How does this guy have access to billions of pounds??

And from Lord James' description, it's an international entity and the money is backed by gold bullion...

Well here's some extremely pertinent information regarding "Foundation X".

For want of a better name, I shall call it foundation X. That is not its real name, but it will do for the moment. Foundation X was introduced to me 20 weeks ago last week by an eminent City firm, which is FSA controlled. Its chairman came to me and said, "We have this extraordinary request to assist in a major financial reconstruction. It is megabucks, but we need your help to assist us in understanding whether this business is legitimate". I had the biggest put down of my life from my noble friend Lord Strathclyde when I told him this story. He said, "Why you? You're not important enough to have the answer to a question like that". He is quite right, I am not important enough, but the answer to the next question was, "You haven't got the experience for it". Yes I do. I have had one of the biggest experiences in the laundering of terrorist money and funny money that anyone has had in the City. I have handled billions of pounds of terrorist money.

For the rest of this transcript, you can view it at the following link. I quoted Column 1538, But there is much much more info.

www.publications.parliament.uk...

regarding the schools and hospitals funding, as i understand these are under the wing of pfi
projects. like road and bridge projects under the same scheme they are very lucrative to investors
giving returns for at least 20-25 years.
it is also notable that a chinese investment group are in the uk right now negotiating on pumping money
into liverpool ports (projected £10bn)and probably everything else that is worth cherry picking.
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Originally posted by bigbomb456
reply to post by FatherLukeDuke

 

By the same token could this guy's story be utter BS as well?

Yes, indeed it could. In fact it probably is.

James was probably hoaxed by someone else entirely.

someone asked earlier why foundation x would make the offer to a doddery lord through an unknown small businessman, my guess would be that if the offer wasn't accepted fx could easily slip back into being unnoticed as people called it a fraud. if the uk accepted the offer we would have proof one way or another. if i had that kind of money i might be tempted to use it to put a whole country in my pocket...

BHP could indeed come up with billions, but could it come up with the clamed funds over the time this all has been claimed to be happening?
The claim is that other asian etc countries have already taken some cash...well who what why where and when?
This claim at least may be veifyable...
I think this is just what they are gonna have to do to keep the pyramid going......
I hope they take the cash and lets get to meet these rich uncles wholl bail us out interest free.....Send em to Canada please......

I'm not so sure that I buy this. It could simply be a cover, since the story became so popular. Why wouldn't they offer a decoy, if for no other reason than settle peoples' fears.


--airspoon

I think Mr Barr is a blind alley.

Or at best a fantasist - I don't think we are any closer to Foundation X yet!

Hi. First post good to meet you all. Just thought it would be intresting to ask, if you had that much money would you give it away like that?? Just a thought why would it be no strings attached? could there be something they are not telling us there?

Originally posted by Korg Trinity

Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke
Hilarious, the trucker with £22bn to spare!

Barr said his girlfriend knew nothing of the offer: "I don't want her thinking I'm going crazy, do I?"

Mirror newspaper

No, Alan, we don't want your girlfriend thinking you are crazy. Though of course everyone else does.

I don't think Lord James will be showing his face much after being fooled by this clown...

It's short sighted to think that the money is his directly.

He is likely someone whom is being used as a safe bet go between, someone that is a model subject and cannot be attacked by anyone.

I am conducting some research now and will report back anything I find.

Korg.

And that is probably the case.
The mafia have done this in the past controlling major enterprises like casinos, using another guy with a clean record.