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Mystery backer from foundation x revealed..

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posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 05:57 AM
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Recently in the news there has been a story about Britain being offered £22 billion no strings loan, to help the country get out of it financial mess..
The mystery backer has now been revealed as 62 year old, truck firm boss Alan Barr from winsford Cheshire in the uk..
He had met with Tory lord James and offered the cash to fund schools and hospitals..
He is rumored to have brokered similar deals in Asia over the last few years and claims to have met several heads of state..
He lives in a modest home valued at around £200,000..




posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 05:58 AM
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Links please
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posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 06:06 AM
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Foundation X guy? Didn't they offer £75 billion+ to take out a year's deficit or something. I found something on the mirror. To be honest, I find the whole 'bail-out for free' a scam to reset the ponzi scheme, wouldn't prod it with a 10km pole.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 06:07 AM
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Several stories if you google Alan Barr and foundation x..
Or you can try
Www.mirror.co.uk or www.thesun.co.uk

They are both daily papers in the uk.. The sun has run a small story on page 25..

Hope that helps..



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 06:10 AM
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reply to post by Misterlondon
 


Ok thanks



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 06:13 AM
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reply to post by FermiFlux
 


Yeah it seems a bit dodgy..
I work in the haulage industry the same as mr Barr and it is highly unlikely you can earn several billion pounds without being noticed..
What I find a little strange is a guy with access to that sort of money lives in a £200,000 house... Even if he doesn't flash his cash about, a £200k house is very modest when you understand the value of homes in the uk.. I know of studio apartments that cost more than that..



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 06:30 AM
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Originally posted by Misterlondon
reply to post by FermiFlux
 


Yeah it seems a bit dodgy..
I work in the haulage industry the same as mr Barr and it is highly unlikely you can earn several billion pounds without being noticed..
What I find a little strange is a guy with access to that sort of money lives in a £200,000 house... Even if he doesn't flash his cash about, a £200k house is very modest when you understand the value of homes in the uk.. I know of studio apartments that cost more than that..


On the surface it may appear dodgy and does raise questions.

But when you look more deeply into it, it looks like he may be only a spokesperson. A person whom represents or a go between.

Either that or he is sat on something that could not be used directly for reasons unknown.

The plot does thicken though and I don't think the government turning down the offer is the last we will hear of this.

One simply doesn't reveal such a fund without repercussions, there will be people whom will try by hook or by crook to get access to the fund. The main reason to keep such a fund secret in the first place.

Ironically, the revealing itself my cause a further down turn due to complacency that there is a safety net somewhere.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention btw, very interesting S&F.



Korg.


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posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 06:30 AM
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Hilarious, the trucker with £22bn to spare!



Barr said his girlfriend knew nothing of the offer: "I don't want her thinking I'm going crazy, do I?"

Mirror newspaper

No, Alan, we don't want your girlfriend thinking you are crazy. Though of course everyone else does.

I don't think Lord James will be showing his face much after being fooled by this clown...



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by FatherLukeDuke
Hilarious, the trucker with £22bn to spare!



Barr said his girlfriend knew nothing of the offer: "I don't want her thinking I'm going crazy, do I?"

Mirror newspaper

No, Alan, we don't want your girlfriend thinking you are crazy. Though of course everyone else does.

I don't think Lord James will be showing his face much after being fooled by this clown...



It's short sighted to think that the money is his directly.

He is likely someone whom is being used as a safe bet go between, someone that is a model subject and cannot be attacked by anyone.

I am conducting some research now and will report back anything I find.



Korg.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 06:50 AM
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So this is the guy behind the new Marshal Plan for Europe..


Sorry I don't buy the story.. all I see is yet more smoke and mirrors to obscure who Foundation X really is.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 06:54 AM
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You may be right, I never thought about it like that.. I'd like to know more about this mr Barr..
When I have a chance I will do a little research, or if you find anything in the meantime, and could post on here, would appreciate it..



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 06:54 AM
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Originally posted by Korg Trinity
But when you look more deeply into it, it looks like he may be only a spokesperson. A person whom represents or a go between.

Either that or he is sat on something that could not be used directly for reasons unknown.

ya know
I was thinking the same thing.
the middle man of sorts.

I really don't think anything has
been uncovered yet but I may
be wrong.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 07:00 AM
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Well this all seems above board I look forward to the money coming in and saving our poor country, thanks again Mr Barr and with some finder fee I hope you can stick a conservatory onto your modest home as a way as a big thank you from the UK Taxpayer



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by Misterlondon
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


You may be right, I never thought about it like that.. I'd like to know more about this mr Barr..
When I have a chance I will do a little research, or if you find anything in the meantime, and could post on here, would appreciate it..


This from the Middlewich Guardian back in December 2009

Middlewich sewer works will sink me


A MIDDLEWICH businessman fears that the six-month closure of one of the major routes into the town could bankrupt his small haulage company. Booth Lane will shut in January between Cross Lane and Long Lane South as part of an essential £10million project to end flooding affecting more than 40 homes.

But Alan Barr, who runs BHP Transport in Cledford Lane, reckons the diversion route will cost him an extra £5,350 a week and has entered what he describes as a ‘David and Goliath’ battle with United Utilities. He said: “This will bankrupt us. United Utilities’ intransigence is just unbelievable. “These are conservative costs. My business doesn’t make £5,350 a week profit – I wish it did.

“They’ve got to compensate me or relocate me. You can’t do all this work unless you consider the implications to local business people.” Mr Barr, who employs 15 people, made his calculation based on the 40 journeys a day he says his employees make delivering containers to and from a depot in Winsford.


Lots more info comming.... stay tuned..

korg.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 07:05 AM
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Good work!! Now the alarm bells are ringing a little.. How does this guy have access to billions of pounds??



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 07:09 AM
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The bit that bugs me most is the crossrail part, always has, I guess it always will... as crossrail was not cut, savings where made in the type/number of carriages being used and lengths of platform..

Investing in the project to deliver longer platforms and better carriages is IMHO a blatant waste of cash, as is giving the cash directly to the Gov, how much would be lost in waste.. not very business like in my opinion.

If it is interest free then giving cash to cash strapped hospitals and schools after the Gov has allotted funds makes more sense. since the cash then goes directly to the schools/hospitals..

So all in all I don't buy this story...



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 07:35 AM
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Originally posted by Misterlondon
reply to post by Korg Trinity
 


Good work!! Now the alarm bells are ringing a little.. How does this guy have access to billions of pounds??


Jumping around a bit but there is a trail leading to this company...

The Broken Hill Proprietary Company Ltd

I got the following from this tip bit...

www.flotilla-australia.com...

And this guy....

$120M STATE-OF-THE-ART RESEARCH VESSEL TO SAIL IN FLINDERS’ WAKE

Scroll to the bottom,


Recently, Mr Stacey took part in multi-million dollar projects in the major new building shipyards of Korea, Japan and Singapore, and has previously held positions with Teekay Shipping (Australia) and BHP Transport Limited.


Which led me to this page on The Broken Hill Proprietary Company Ltd..

History of Broken Hill Proprietary Company Ltd.


Known throughout the world as "the Big Australian," Broken Hill Proprietary Company Ltd. (BHP) is Australia's largest commercial organization, with operations in 70 nations worldwide. In 1997, it accounted for about eight percent of Australia's total exports.

More than 95 percent of its annual revenues are derived from heavy industry, namely mining, steelmaking, and petroleum production. Though it got its start in mining, BHP's primary business since the early 20th century has been steel production.

This segment accounted for nearly 40 percent of revenues in 1996. Mining operations, including copper, iron ore, coal, manganese, titanium, and platinum production, contributed more than one-third of BHP's sales in the mid-1990s. Inaugurated in the 1960s, BHP's petroleum business accounted for about one-fifth of revenues. The company also had a relatively small service sector, constituting less than five percent of annual sales.

Late 19th-Century Foundation BHP owes its foundation to Charles Rasp, a boundary rider working in the early 1880s on the Mt. Gipps station near Silverton in New South Wales. As a boundary rider, Rasp patrolled the property, repairing fences and generally checking the property. The station was managed by George McCulloch. Rasp believed that a low broken-backed ridge on the property--the Broken Hill--contained argentiferous ores. He persuaded McCulloch and five others to form a syndicate for the purpose of testing the ridge.

The first shaft sunk proved disappointing and some of the original syndicate members sold their shares, but the core members decided to raise the capital necessary for further investigation by floating a public company; they issued a prospectus in 1885 in the name of the Broken Hill Proprietary Company. Almost simultaneously, news arrived of a significant silver strike. BHP shares rose sharply in value once it was announced that the company's first consignment of 48 tons of ore had realized 35,605 ounces of silver, worth nearly £7,500.


So we have a mining company that has been around for more than 100 years with subsiduries in 70 countries that has transport requirements....

This information is what the company has listed...


# Public Company # Incorporated: 1885
# Employees: 50,887
# Sales: A$19.8 billion (US$15.8 billion) (1996)
# Stock Exchanges:Australia London Frankfurt Tokyo New Zealand Zürich New York # SICs: 1011 Iron Ores; 3312 Blast Furnaces & Steel Mills; 3310 Blast Furnace & Basic Steel Products; 1020 Copper Ores; 1220 Bituminous Coal & Lignite Mining; 1221 Bituminous Coal/Lignite-Surface; 1310 Crude Petroleum & Natural Gas; 1422 Crushed & Broken Limestone; 1311 Crude Petroleum & Natural Gas; 1061 Ferroalloy Ores, Except Vanadium; 4410 Deep Sea Foreign Transportation of Freight I


This is a list of the principle subsidiaries...


Principal Subsidiaries: Aquila Steel Company Pty. Ltd.; Associated Airlines Pty. Ltd. (55%); Australian Iron and Steel Pty. Ltd.; Australian Manganese Co. Ltd.; Australian Wire Industries Pty. Ltd.; AWI Holdings Pty. Ltd.; BHP Aerospace & Electronics Pty. Ltd.; BHP Capital No 20 Pty. Ltd.; BHP Development Finance Pty. Ltd.; BHP Engineering International Pte. Ltd. (Singapore); BHP Engineering Malaysia Sdn. Bdn.; BHP Engineering Pty. Ltd.; BHP Finance Ltd.; BHP Finance (U.S.A.) Ltd.; BHP Finance Services Pty. Ltd.; BHP Financial Services (U.K.); Ltd.; BHP Holdings (U.S.A.) Inc.; BHP Information Technology Sdn. Bhd. (Malaysia); BHP International Holdings Ltd. (Hong Kong); BHP Investment Holdings Ltd. (U.K.); BHP Iron Ore Ltd.; BHP Japan Pty. Ltd.; BHP Marine & General Insurances Pty. Ltd.; BHP Minerals Holdings Pty. Ltd.; BHP Minerals Norway Pty. Ltd.; BHP Minerals Zimbabwe Pty. Ltd.; BHP Nominees Pty. Ltd.; BHP Papua New Guinea Pty. Ltd.; BHP Petroleum International Pty. Ltd.; BHP Rail Products (Canada) Ltd.; BHP Rail Products Pty. Ltd.; BHP Refractories Ltd.; BHP Steel (AIS) Pty. Ltd.; BHP Steel Building Products (Guangzhou) Ltd. (China); BHP Steel Building Products (Shanghai) Ltd. (China); BHP Steel Building Products Vietnam Co. Ltd.; BHP Steel Canada Inc.; BHP Steel (JLA) Pty. Ltd.; BHP Stevedoring Pty. Ltd.; BHP Superannuation Investment Co. Pty. Ltd.; BHP Trading New Zealand Ltd.; BHP Transport Pty. Ltd.; Groote Eylandt Mining Company Pty. Ltd.; John Lysaght (Australia) Pty. LTd.; Keithen Ltd.; NSW BHP Steel Ltd.; PT BHP Steel Indonesia (65%); Resources Insurances Pte. Ltd. (Singapore); Tasmanian Electro Metallurgical Company Pty. Ltd.; Tavela Ltd.; The World Marine & General Insurance PLC (U.K.); Bekaert-BHP Steel Cord Pty. Ltd. (50%); Elkem Mangan KS (Norway; 49%); Foster's Brewing Group Ltd. (36.6%); Koppers Australia Pty. Ltd. (50%); Orbital Engine Corporation Ltd. (25.1%); Samarco Mineracao SA (Brazil; 49%); Tubemakers of Australia Ltd. (49.4%).


So BHP Transport limited is a subsidiary of this company... And as of the 12th of November this year Alan Barr resigned as a director and applied the details to be taken from companies house......

So now.... have we found the identity of Foundation X? is Foundation X - The Broken Hill Proprietary Company Ltd????



Korg.


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posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 07:45 AM
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Looks like Broken Hill Proprietary Company Ltd. is directly connected if not the same entity as this company...

bhp billiton


Brief history of BHP BHP's rich and varied history began in a silver, lead and zinc mine in Broken Hill in New South Wales, Australia. One of the most lucrative deposits in the world at the time, it was later described in the London press as the 'best managed mine in the world'. In 1899, BHP leased an iron ore mine at Iron Knob in South Australia. Sixteen years later, in 1915, BHP ventured into steel making, commissioning its first steelworks at Newcastle, New South Wales. After World War I, BHP continued to diversify, forming a shipping fleet, as well as acquiring coal mines and additional reserves of iron ore and limestone. BHP also acquired companies that manufactured finished steel products.


Check this for the history...

BHP's Chronology

Thanks,

Korg.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 07:50 AM
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Originally posted by Korg Trinity
So now.... have we found the identity of Foundation X? is Foundation X - The Broken Hill Proprietary Company Ltd????


Has there been any consideration of the fact that haulage firms are so ofter...how shall I put this?...Mobbed-up?



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by Korg Trinity
So now.... have we found the identity of Foundation X? is Foundation X - The Broken Hill Proprietary Company Ltd????


Has there been any consideration of the fact that haulage firms are so ofter...how shall I put this?...Mobbed-up?


Don't think we need to consider that angle anymore since the trail leads to a company with an anual turnover of around 19 billion....

Korg.



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