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*Must watch* NY councilman blows the lid off of naked X-Ray scanners and TSA corruption

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posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:50 PM
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One can always tell when things get personal. There's always a bunch of you, your and your's in the text.



Please keep things civil and if anyone gets out of line, just alert the post to staff.




posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 11:25 PM
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So....
The Land of the Free...
Is it?



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 11:35 PM
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Amazing how everyday another freedom is stripped away in the name of security, everyone is capitalizing on the terrorist threat. Now we have machines that scan your body, for no reason at all as they been proven not to work. The government is gathering more and more information on people, maybe one day they will be able to end your life with the push of a button.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 11:36 PM
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Amazing how everyday another freedom is stripped away in the name of security, everyone is capitalizing on the terrorist threat. Now we have machines that scan your body, for no reason at all as they been proven not to work. The government is gathering more and more information on people, maybe one day they will be able to end your life with the push of a button.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 12:12 AM
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Am I watching a trend of mass hysteria in regards to body scanners and the such with the TSA it seems there are a gigillion threads about the TSA and the damned scanners? They are so numerous it is almost distracting that I almost cannot pay attention to other alternative news and the likes. And no I don't like them either the TSA or them scanners.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 03:51 AM
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Originally posted by ChocoTaco369
I want to make one thing painfully clear to everyone in this thread:

IT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN TO FLY ON AIRPLANES. IT IS A PRIVILEGE.

Nowhere does the Constitution state that you have the guaranteed right to fly on an airplane. If you do not like the procedures set in place at airports, THEN DO NOT FLY. Take a car. Take a bus. Take a train. Ride a bike. Walk. Just stop slowing down the line with your moaning and get the hell out of my way. If John Madden can travel the country on a daily basis on a bus, you can, too.

These airlines are private businesses. If you do not want to fly these airlines and subject yourself to FAA regulations, then don't. I'm tired of hearing these weirdos moan about procedure because they're afraid of being touched. I can't stand these nutcases where if you somehow bump against them, you just violated them. Guess what, if you were just about any other species on Earth, you'd be raped to procreate. Human beings are one of the rare species that actually consent to sex, so get over yourself.

[/rant]

I can't stand the entitlement complex that the Socialists have brainwashed the American people into having.
edit on 22-11-2010 by ChocoTaco369 because: (no reason given)


So, if you feel this way, then surely you must appreciate that ALL passengers who select to fly should be prepared for scanners and pat downs? That would include Muslim women in Burka's, correct? I mean, if it's a privilege for all, then these women must be part of all.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 06:05 AM
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The airports are only the beginning they will be rolling these scanners out into the broader public....State and Court houses, Sports stadiums, shopping malls....Then what will be your suggestion? Stay home and never come out of your house?....No.... that is cowardly. We have to stop this here and now!!!



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 07:41 AM
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I Wonder if Military gets a free pass around these systems with all of their stuff their always dragging around.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by xXGrimSlayerXx
I Wonder if Military gets a free pass around these systems with all of their stuff their always dragging around.



Apparently not....

Here is a recent report of a miltary dealing with the goon squads of the TSA. Their 'rationale' and protocol simply leaves one scratching one's head in bewilderment:


As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following:

When we were on our way back from Afghanistan, we flew out of Baghram Air Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all of our bags searched, the whole nine yards.

Our first stop was Shannon, Ireland to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks from the Indiana National Guard. That’s where the stupid started.

First, everyone was forced to get off the plane–even though the plane wasn’t refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane, rather than let the 100 people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No vending machines, no means of escape. Only a male/female latrine.

It’s probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9 pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons weren’t loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs.

The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it reinspected. Keep in mind, this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through. After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to reinspect our Cargo–just to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from war, who had already been inspected, reinspected and kept in a SECURE holding area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN.

This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols.

So we’re in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they’re going to confiscate his nail clippers. The conversation went something like this:

TSA Guy: You can’t take those on the plane.

Soldier: What? I’ve had them since we left country.

TSA Guy: You’re not suppose to have them.

Soldier: Why?

TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.

Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I’m allowed to take it on.

TSA Guy: Yeah but you can’t use it to take over the plane. You don’t have bullets.

Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?

TSA Guy: [awkward silence]

Me: Dude, just give him your damn nail clippers so we can get the f**k out of here. I’ll buy you a new set.

Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security]

This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns–but nothing that could have been used as a weapon.


Source:

www.redstate.com...




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posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 12:00 PM
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Absolute Insanity,
How in gawds name anyone who is in charge of this cluster monkey can be viewed with any form of intelligence is mind boggling.
This is it?
This is the best we have to offer?
Pathetic!



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by ChocoTaco369
I want to make one thing painfully clear to everyone in this thread:

IT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN TO FLY ON AIRPLANES. IT IS A PRIVILEGE.

Nowhere does the Constitution state that you have the guaranteed right to fly on an airplane. If you do not like the procedures set in place at airports, THEN DO NOT FLY. Take a car. Take a bus. Take a train. Ride a bike. Walk.
[/rant]

I can't stand the entitlement complex that the Socialists have brainwashed the American people into having.
edit on 22-11-2010 by ChocoTaco369 because: (no reason given)



ChocoTaco.

Neither is it in the constitution that you are guaranteed to drive a car, or ride a bus or a train, or even a bike. Therefore, by using your logic, you would consent to the authorities to conduct random strip searches and/or pat downs to anyone driving a car, riding a bus, etc. You know, some terrorists have used all of those methods to 'blow things up', so it wouldn't be that unreasonable to expect our ever invasive government to start demanding random searches of it's citizens outside of their home.

Of course, if terrorism still exists at that point, then the government would need to do random raids in homes, all in order to 'protect' the people from, what's the quote they're using now? ... Oh yeah, "home-grown terrorism". So again, I would not be surprised that once all methods of transportation are covered under a random inspection, your homes would be next.

PEOPLE!!! WAKE UP!!! While we still retain the right to protest, PROTEST!! If an airport screener violates your rights, CALL THE POLICE AND CHARGE THE SCREENER WITH A CRIME!!! HE/SHE IS COMMITTING A CRIME!!

Lastly, and if you think this intrusion can't go any further, consider this: Once the government thinks that we've finally accepted the intrusive nature of their random inspections, and that we must simply deal with and accept it, there will come a point in time in which another MAJOR crisis will rear it's ugly head. The ensuing panic, whether it be real or imagined, will "force" our government to declare MARTIAL LAW. This will be the end of freedom as we currently know it.

Don't doubt me.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 06:04 PM
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Wise words,
And the end result for sure if this is not nipped in the budding,
it has had some time to take root now, not so much in the procedure itself because of its newness, but in the minds of the population since all of the programs that have been mind played on us since 2001,
the color coded days, (remember those?) the released videos of warnings and praise from caves in the middle east, (if the 'primitives' can reach us from caves we're in trouble) the unnamed thwarted attacks taken claim for by alphabet agencies and troop deployments by faceless terrorists (the dozens of attacks stopped before they happened) and of course the shoe bomber, the underwear bomber, wet tee shirt bomber, all of them muslim extremists wanting to drink infidels souls,
There's been a grade A usda choice ad campaign being played in all of our heads to get us soft, get us to the point of submission, all done as an entertainment,
and we're so scattered and distracted by any of the convenient readily accessible crisis' they can wheel out and plop down center stage to take our focus off reality collectively we have zero idea of whats going on,
and they love it,
plans working just great, yes sir alot of wisedom in your words Mensa,




posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 04:37 AM
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Wow, I am surprised that your own military get treated with such disrespect. Who on earth is responsible for making the decision to make them all go through repeated searches even though they have never been outside of controlled space the whole time?

The strangeness just seems to get worse every day. Wher the hell is this heading?



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 09:56 AM
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This guy is actually spot on. The scanners are back scatter radiation ie a very high wavelength (lower energy) than the type they use to view inside your body. So all they can see is if you have a bomb strapped to your leg. That can be figured out by patting down everyone. It takes 10 seconds to pat down people then move them along.

This should be viewed as what it is: a kickback to a previous government official. However, there may be so much outcry that these machines will not last that long....



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 09:59 AM
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I dont think this is the start of martial law. We have been in martial law for a while. Google sells your info for 25 bucks a pop. Go read drudgereport if you want to know more. That is what scares me, not some silly machine or pat down.



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 01:44 PM
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ChocoTaco.

Neither is it in the constitution that you are guaranteed to drive a car, or ride a bus or a train, or even a bike. Therefore, by using your logic, you would consent to the authorities to conduct random strip searches and/or pat downs to anyone driving a car, riding a bus, etc. You know, some terrorists have used all of those methods to 'blow things up', so it wouldn't be that unreasonable to expect our ever invasive government to start demanding random searches of it's citizens outside of their home.


Well now. This didn't take long...

The next step in tightened security could be on U.S. public transportation, trains and boats.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano says terrorists will continue to look for U.S. vulnerabilities, making tighter security standards necessary.

“[Terrorists] are going to continue to probe the system and try to find a way through,” Napolitano said in an interview that aired Monday night on "Charlie Rose."


thehill.com...
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posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 04:51 PM
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At least people like the councilman still exist and they bring about some hope that these faulty machines may be rejected in common society.

I just dont understand how the government can act like the only place that bombs can be set off is airports.



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 07:26 PM
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I so agree with you and we don't fly, but according to the news i saw this morning we are unbelievably a real minority..if they were not lying on their poll count!


Originally posted by nottheonlyone
Here's a thought. TSA worker: closet pedophile gets his jolly's off at work. This makes me absolutely enraged and sick to my stomach. Am I the only one who thinks this is sooooo soooo wrong? Am I the only one who gets seriously angry after hearing about this crap? Please tell me I'm not. How do we change this? When is enough is enough?

Children, Adults, no matter who you are this is wrong. When will we fight for our rights? Give me the time and the place I will be there with a sign and a strong voice.

I just saw a thread telling people to shut up about the TSA already. I think I will go give the OP a piece of my mind. I am totally in rage mode right now. I suppose we should just shut up about it like people did with their "weird uncles" back in the day.



posted on Nov, 25 2010 @ 02:21 PM
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According to everything I've read and watched since "Opt-Out Day" was supposed to occur, people - excuse me, SHEEPLE - have gladly surrendered their 4th Amendment rights in exchange for a little convenience.

>>>This way to the microchip machine please... It's for your safety and convenience. /sarcasm



posted on Nov, 29 2010 @ 08:30 PM
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no offense to the people who work for the tsa but to be honest half of them look like americas minorities. they have this dumbfound look in their face, probably getting paid #, so why would they care to do their job right? mcdonalds employees probably get paid the same but do each of them say "im gonna make the best friggen burger this person ever had" no, because they dont get paid to do a great job they just get paid to do the job like everybody else does. for example, a man from what appeared to be from another country of origin was watching the luggage xray at newark airport when i was traveling through there. for the 10 minutes i was in line his eyes were on the screen for maybe an accumulated time of 2 minutes. during this time im sure at least 100 bags passed through and he only saw 10. point being is that if humans are running this operation there will be unavoidable HUMAN ERROR. especially when you hire people who dont give a you know what.



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