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Originally posted by ChocoTaco369
I want to make one thing painfully clear to everyone in this thread:
IT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN TO FLY ON AIRPLANES. IT IS A PRIVILEGE.
Nowhere does the Constitution state that you have the guaranteed right to fly on an airplane. If you do not like the procedures set in place at airports, THEN DO NOT FLY. Take a car. Take a bus. Take a train. Ride a bike. Walk. Just stop slowing down the line with your moaning and get the hell out of my way. If John Madden can travel the country on a daily basis on a bus, you can, too.
These airlines are private businesses. If you do not want to fly these airlines and subject yourself to FAA regulations, then don't. I'm tired of hearing these weirdos moan about procedure because they're afraid of being touched. I can't stand these nutcases where if you somehow bump against them, you just violated them. Guess what, if you were just about any other species on Earth, you'd be raped to procreate. Human beings are one of the rare species that actually consent to sex, so get over yourself.
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I can't stand the entitlement complex that the Socialists have brainwashed the American people into having.edit on 22-11-2010 by ChocoTaco369 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by xXGrimSlayerXx
I Wonder if Military gets a free pass around these systems with all of their stuff their always dragging around.
As the Chalk Leader for my flight home from Afghanistan, I witnessed the following:
When we were on our way back from Afghanistan, we flew out of Baghram Air Field. We went through customs at BAF, full body scanners (no groping), had all of our bags searched, the whole nine yards.
Our first stop was Shannon, Ireland to refuel. After that, we had to stop at Indianapolis, Indiana to drop off about 100 folks from the Indiana National Guard. That’s where the stupid started.
First, everyone was forced to get off the plane–even though the plane wasn’t refueling again. All 330 people got off that plane, rather than let the 100 people from the ING get off. We were filed from the plane to a holding area. No vending machines, no means of escape. Only a male/female latrine.
It’s probably important to mention that we were ALL carrying weapons. Everyone was carrying an M4 Carbine (rifle) and some, like me, were also carrying an M9 pistol. Oh, and our gunners had M-240B machine guns. Of course, the weapons weren’t loaded. And we had been cleared of all ammo well before we even got to customs at Baghram, then AGAIN at customs.
The TSA personnel at the airport seriously considered making us unload all of the baggage from the SECURE cargo hold to have it reinspected. Keep in mind, this cargo had been unpacked, inspected piece by piece by U.S. Customs officials, resealed and had bomb-sniffing dogs give it a one-hour run through. After two hours of sitting in this holding area, the TSA decided not to reinspect our Cargo–just to inspect us again: Soldiers on the way home from war, who had already been inspected, reinspected and kept in a SECURE holding area for 2 hours. Ok, whatever. So we lined up to go through security AGAIN.
This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols.
So we’re in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they’re going to confiscate his nail clippers. The conversation went something like this:
TSA Guy: You can’t take those on the plane.
Soldier: What? I’ve had them since we left country.
TSA Guy: You’re not suppose to have them.
Soldier: Why?
TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.
Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I’m allowed to take it on.
TSA Guy: Yeah but you can’t use it to take over the plane. You don’t have bullets.
Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?
TSA Guy: [awkward silence]
Me: Dude, just give him your damn nail clippers so we can get the f**k out of here. I’ll buy you a new set.
Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security]
This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns–but nothing that could have been used as a weapon.
Originally posted by ChocoTaco369
I want to make one thing painfully clear to everyone in this thread:
IT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN TO FLY ON AIRPLANES. IT IS A PRIVILEGE.
Nowhere does the Constitution state that you have the guaranteed right to fly on an airplane. If you do not like the procedures set in place at airports, THEN DO NOT FLY. Take a car. Take a bus. Take a train. Ride a bike. Walk.
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I can't stand the entitlement complex that the Socialists have brainwashed the American people into having.edit on 22-11-2010 by ChocoTaco369 because: (no reason given)
ChocoTaco.
Neither is it in the constitution that you are guaranteed to drive a car, or ride a bus or a train, or even a bike. Therefore, by using your logic, you would consent to the authorities to conduct random strip searches and/or pat downs to anyone driving a car, riding a bus, etc. You know, some terrorists have used all of those methods to 'blow things up', so it wouldn't be that unreasonable to expect our ever invasive government to start demanding random searches of it's citizens outside of their home.
Originally posted by nottheonlyone
Here's a thought. TSA worker: closet pedophile gets his jolly's off at work. This makes me absolutely enraged and sick to my stomach. Am I the only one who thinks this is sooooo soooo wrong? Am I the only one who gets seriously angry after hearing about this crap? Please tell me I'm not. How do we change this? When is enough is enough?
Children, Adults, no matter who you are this is wrong. When will we fight for our rights? Give me the time and the place I will be there with a sign and a strong voice.
I just saw a thread telling people to shut up about the TSA already. I think I will go give the OP a piece of my mind. I am totally in rage mode right now. I suppose we should just shut up about it like people did with their "weird uncles" back in the day.