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*Must watch* NY councilman blows the lid off of naked X-Ray scanners and TSA corruption

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posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by xEphon
reply to post by ChocoTaco369
 


And what does any of that have to do with the TSAs legitimacy to perform these procedures?
TSA, FAA, and airlines are all seperate entities...
edit on 22-11-2010 by xEphon because: (no reason given)

Because you are choosing to use them. You don't have to get on an airplane. If you don't want to subject yourself to the procedures, DRIVE! It really is that simple.

There is only ONE problem with the procedures, and that is that we don't profile the individuals. Anyone with half a brain would profile the individual. We need to get off the random testing and more harshly scrutinize those that are most likely to cause problems. As for the procedures themselves, no one is forcing you to do them. You are choosing to, then raising hell over it. Get over yourselves.




posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 05:13 PM
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as nelson muntz would put: HA HA. you're all getting what you deserve.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by sara123123
reply to post by DimensionalDetective
 


Congressman or Senator Mica, another Republican joined Ron Paul in raising a big stink about TSA. Hillary Clinton wandered off the farm and denounced the abuse of the American people by TSA. The ball is rolling.

We should all be writing to our elected officals about TSA and the mission creep of Homeland Security using the Patriot Act unconstitutional powers to pursue American political groups as "domestic terrorists." The patriot act should only focus on Islamic terrorism ONLY. The rest of America's crime can be handled by law enforcement within constitutional boundries.


Omigod. Reel this one in. THE BANKERS AND THE PTB DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW IT IS THEM WHO ARE DOING THIS TO YOU...Islamic terrorism--pfft! you've been had.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by civilchallenger
I'm very confused about why Fox News is suddenly concerned about the police state. They practically had an orgasm over the patriot act and now suddenly they are questioning what is going on. Hmmm. I guess they couldn't even convince neocon sheep about such a ridiculous idea and gave up. Changing their mind to save face is all I can think of.


No. This is part of the plan, they want the American people to completely lose faith in their government, at which point JP Morgan Chase and/or the Bill and Melynda Gates foundation and/or the Rockefeller initiative et al, will step in and provide a "new way of thinking".



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by ChocoTaco369
I want to make one thing painfully clear to everyone in this thread:

IT IS NOT YOUR RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN TO FLY ON AIRPLANES. IT IS A PRIVILEGE.

Nowhere does the Constitution state that you have the guaranteed right to fly on an airplane. If you do not like the procedures set in place at airports, THEN DO NOT FLY. Take a car. Take a bus. Take a train. Ride a bike. Walk. Just stop slowing down the line with your moaning and get the hell out of my way. If John Madden can travel the country on a daily basis on a bus, you can, too.

These airlines are private businesses. If you do not want to fly these airlines and subject yourself to FAA regulations, then don't. I'm tired of hearing these weirdos moan about procedure because they're afraid of being touched. I can't stand these nutcases where if you somehow bump against them, you just violated them. Guess what, if you were just about any other species on Earth, you'd be raped to procreate. Human beings are one of the rare species that actually consent to sex, so get over yourself.

[/rant]

I can't stand the entitlement complex that the Socialists have brainwashed the American people into having.
edit on 22-11-2010 by ChocoTaco369 because: (no reason given)


The airlines are privat businesses. The FAA is not.

The chance of being killed by a terrorist attack is roughly the same as the chances of dying from radiation poisoning from the full body scanners.

and

You are 11,000 times more likely to die in an airplane accident than from a terrorist plot involving an airplane.

and

the only reason that the full body scanners are in play is because Michael Chertoff had business interests in the company that manufactures them.

you are either a shill or lack any sense of reason whatsoever



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 06:16 PM
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I think I'll pop a viagra right before my next flight and get the pat-down with an enormous hard-on. See how the TSA agent likes that. I'll just tell him that complete strangers touching my junk turns me on and see how quickly that pat-down is over.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 06:23 PM
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Very well said!!!!!
Just because it doesnt say I have the right to travel by plane, train or auto doesnt mean I dont have that right. How is it every day basics these days seem to be a "privelage"
You "Cant" buy a beer or pack of smokes until your 19, but you sure can be sent off to war to go fight some BS.

Smoke and Mirrors



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 07:20 PM
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We all don't have to stop flying to bring the airlines to their knees. Say 10% if vacationers/travelers find another means that would be such a loss of income, it would be similar to when most airline almost belly up shortly after 9/11. So if that happens guess what? They get a bailout at taxpayers expense. So in a way we would be paying for those times that 10% of travelers chose another form of transportation! They will always get it their way....



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 07:28 PM
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Ok pervert, I hope you do that and get sent to jail for sexual assault.

Man, you are twisted.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
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Ok pervert, I hope you do that and get sent to jail for sexual assault.

Man, you are twisted.


lmfao explain how that is sexual assault.

IT ISNT. He's got a great idea.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 08:28 PM
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Well it's obvious someone doesn't have a sense of humour! If you don't like being treated like a criminal just because you want to fly somewhere then make the TSA agents doing this as uncomfortable as possible.

To give an example, I was crossing the border at Rochester, NY and I got pulled into the room for a search. They took their sweetass time getting to me and I needed to use the washroom really bad, so I asked if I could go. The guard told me "NO". I said I will wet my pants if I can't go and even offered to have him come along with me to make sure I wasn't dumping anything.

His exact words were "I don't care if you piss your pants". So I stood up unzipped my fly and pissed in the trash can next to me. He of course lost it, I asked to speak to his supervisor and he came along quickly and I explained the situation and said that this agent was violating my human rights by asking me to disgrace myself by urinating in my pants.

You know what happened....NOTHING! The supervisor let me go foregoing the search with many apologies about the guards conduct. I was nice enough to even empty the trash bin in the toilet and rinse it out under the sink.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 08:36 PM
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I've been thinking we should keep an eye and ear out for the guy or lady that drops their pants and underwear and opens their shirt in line completely exposing themselves at the checkpoint.
Something tells me this is a great possibility.
Some one is going to flip and do it, it's just a matter of where and when.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 08:45 PM
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He would be purposefully sexually arousing himself so TSA agents would be forced to touch his aroused genitals. He is taking something non-sexual and making it sexual. That is sexual harassment and sexual assault.

It's like sexually arousing yourself when you know you are going to the doctors and having your genitals inspected. It's premeditated sexual assault and harassment.


edit on 22-11-2010 by gift0fpr0phecy because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 08:52 PM
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This has just happened in San Diego. The man is a frequent flyer and had just gone through the "invasive" pat-down the week before and did not want to go through the scanners, so he stripped to his boxers... the TSA told him he had to get dressed in order to complete the security check/pat-down. The man refused to get dressed (note: he did not refuse the pat-down) something his lawyer is stressing, since his arrest was "refusing to complete the security process" I suppose the point he was making is obvious to us all..

He ended up being arrested and perhaps even worse - a woman who was in line was detained for recording the incident on her cell.


Passenger Chooses Strip-Down Over Pat-Down - Nov. 22


Through a statement released by his attorney Sunday night, Wolanyk said "TSA needs to see that I'm not carrying any weapons, explosives, or other prohibited substances, I refuse to have images of my naked body viewed by perfect strangers, and having been felt up for the first time by TSA the week prior (I travel frequently) I was not willing to be molested again."

Wolanyk's attorney said that TSA requested his client put his clothes on so he could be patted down properly but his client refused to put his clothes back on. He never refused a pat down, according to his attorney.

Wolanyk was arrested for refusing to complete the security process. A woman, identified by Harbor police as Danielle Kelli Hayman,39, of San Diego was detained for recording the incident on a phone.


edit on 22-11-2010 by LadySkadi because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 09:12 PM
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Where's the props to FOX News for showing this for what it is? They get bashed all the time, but seems like their calling this one on the mark.
This is the same thing with the Federal mandate to "modernize" all the polling machines with those scanners. Someone in sales at these companies gets the ear of a politician and the rest of us have to go along with it. Its disgusting how the whole system operates.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 09:32 PM
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Again you have no sense of humour. It's pretty clear based on your posts in these threads that you'll give up all your rights for the illusion of safety. But when we lose our sense of humour about the world around us then things have gotten really out of hand.

Lighten up! GEEZ!

And some guy touching my junk because I want to fly somewhere is a true violation of rights. So what happens when this doesn't work. Are you going to subject yourself to cavity searches just to fly?

You do realize that once you give up rights it's virtually impossible to get them back. There is no need for all of this. Had the State Dept. just followed proper procedure them the underwear bomber would never have been allowed on the plane. They let him on without a passport for christ sakes! Total setup.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 09:50 PM
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Sense of humor? You think sexual harassment is funny? That is disgusting [snip].

And I have not lost ANY rights. In order to fly on an aircraft I must give my consent to searches. They are NOT taking anything from me.

Get a clue already.
edit on 22-11-2010 by gift0fpr0phecy because: (no reason given)

edit on 22/11/10 by masqua because: Removed personal insult



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:00 PM
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If the pat down rules don't change I'm not going to be flying anymore. I saw on the news how they are now allowed to pat down children as young as 8 and 9 years old.

If I do decide to fly anytime soon, I'm going to be investing in Rocky Flats Gear Underwear.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:19 PM
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Yeah well I think that ron paul said it best the American people are to submissive. Think back to the wild wild west days and forward we were the one of the most agressive people out there.



posted on Nov, 22 2010 @ 10:33 PM
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Do you just enjoy being combative without addressing many of the good points brought up in this thread about how the procedures are ineffective at making you more secure? Based on all your posts in these threads you do nothing but ridicule people for not agreeing with your point of view.

Are you an egomaniac perhaps.

And for some reason you can't tell what a joke is?

I get manners and decorum warning for calling you an idiot but you're allowed to spew this garbage? I'll stick to my banned statement.



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