They want your drivers liscence now to buy ciggarettes in CT! anywhere else?

I just hit the year mark using a e-cig and have stopped smoking. They are better then smoking and pretty much stopped the same day I started using a 510. Now I make my own and just need to purchase the nicotine juice. Not outlawed yet. The FDA wants to outlaw it due to they need to either make money off you smoking or wasting money on their drugs to stop smoking that don`t work for most people. No other reason no proof yet of any bad stuff with them. Studies are being done though.

Here is a link to ECF loaded with E-cig info on Health and the legal battle with the FDA.
www.e-cigarette-forum.com...

reply to post by Connman


Hi

I gave up using an e-cig, tho only been using the thing for about 12 weeks, it worked when all the other methods failled.. But personally I see the issue the govs seem to have with e-cigs is that they show up how we are being scammed ($$$$) by the nicotine replacement patch/gum makers.

I can't tell if you are really serious? You are complaining that the cashier is asking for your drivers license when you buy cigarettes? How else are they supposed to know if you are over 18? I don't get it....

reply to post by badw0lf


No ID no purchase. You are not required to have an ID, and the retailer can choose who they will do business with and who they wont. Dont want a license, you dont get smokes, or beer for that matter. Even if you had a license, retailers can still refuse service.

Also as others have said carding people has been around for 30-40 years now. Retailers who sell tobacco and alcohol are required to ensure the items are sold legally to valid people. If they do not, then they can have their licesne revoked to sell those items, or to have their business license yanked, where they cannot do business at all.

Originally posted by sputniksteve
I can't tell if you are really serious? You are complaining that the cashier is asking for your drivers license when you buy cigarettes? How else are they supposed to know if you are over 18? I don't get it....

Lol, really?

Pretty sure not everyone who is over 18 drives you know.

How bizarre....

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by badw0lf

 

No ID no purchase. You are not required to have an ID, and the retailer can choose who they will do business with and who they wont. Dont want a license, you dont get smokes, or beer for that matter. Even if you had a license, retailers can still refuse service.

Also as others have said carding people has been around for 30-40 years now. Retailers who sell tobacco and alcohol are required to ensure the items are sold legally to valid people. If they do not, then they can have their licesne revoked to sell those items, or to have their business license yanked, where they cannot do business at all.

Uhh yeah I understand checking for ID if someone appears under aged... I do not get the requirement for a DL, when there are other forms of ID which can be used, so the "No DL no purchase" sounds like a load of crap to me, but hey, if you guys are happy with it... Oo

As long as I can remember, there have been places where people are asked for ID, night clubs, drive thru bottleshops, etc. I understand that. I have never been carded in my life, and over the years I've seen more and more people asked for ID, but because they are young looking or obviously not of legal age. Never once in my life have I seen someone who is obviously old enough, refused service because they could not prove their age. Thats just hysterical...

Thank god I live in a normal country...

reply to post by TKDRL


dude you drank at 12-15? wow, thats bad for you mate... Earliest I started drinking large amounts (which wasnt even a lot, and only for a week), was at 17! I used my brother whos 22 to get me some, and didnt want to bother someone else. Its illegal to have somone else buy you ciggs/alcohol btw...

reply to post by badw0lf


What other ID are you referring to? The reason a Government issued ID is used is for the expectation it is valid and the information on it is correct (fake ID's aside).

I have come across many people who look a lot older then they actually ar, I have come across people who look a lot younger than they actually are. Identification was the only way to determine age.

I still am not understanding what the issue is, aside form you apprently being upset you were carded to make a purchase that is age restricted.

The retailer also runs into the issue of having different cashiers who view people as older or younger based on personal abservation. The person in front of you does not get carded, but you do. That would piss people off (as apparently it did you) so most places just ask regardless of how old a person looks. They do this because there are poeple out there who are going to bitch about someone not being carded, and continue to bitch because they got carded.

Its a restricted item. Either provide the ID that is requested, or be denied the sale and take your business elsewhere.

Easy solution.

This is the first I've ever heard on actually SCANNING a drivers/non-driver I.D. You seemed surprised when you mentioned the stings lol. In NY it's very common for law enforcement to get teens to go from "bodega" to "bodega" looking for illegal cigg sales. Over here they sell "stoogies" or "loosies" so cops are always recruiting underage kids...I thought people get carded everywhere

reply to post by WeBrooklyn


Liquer control in my state does the same. They will recruit underage people to go buy alcohol or cigarrettes from stores. Those who deny the purchase usually get an attaboy from the state, while those who file get a citation and possible revocation of their license.

As far as swiping a license most states have this ability. Some states, like michigan, restrict whats on the magnetic strip (usually the basic information on the front of the license). Other states have medical information allowed in the magentic strip, where other states only allow a simple yes this license is valid type message.

I always find it funny when people complain about the Government allowiung stuff to occur that is bad for siciety, then complain the Government is restricting a persons freedom because they cant buy something the govt said no to.

People need to make up their minds.

Originally posted by davespanners
I understand the bit about not being able to buy cigarettes if you are under-age, but I don't get the "scanning your drivers license" bit.
Is it illegal to smoke if you don't have a drivers license?

edit on 21-11-2010 by davespanners because: (no reason given)

The actual "scanning" of a driver's license has more to do with fake ID's. On the back of a state issued ID card or a drivers license you will see a black strip, just like on your credit card. The scanning is done to make sure the ID is not a fake. This practice actually began years ago in nightclubs and bars in order to protect bar owners from under aged drinkers coming in with fake id's.

...gosh, i havent been carded since nixon got booted, errr, uh, resigned...
...its kinda unfair... ...they could pretend i'm not older than dirt...
...i mean, jeez, who would that hurt?...

Originally posted by Wyn Hawks
...gosh, i havent been carded since nixon got booted, errr, uh, resigned...

...its kinda unfair...

...they could pretend i'm not older than dirt...

...i mean, jeez, who would that hurt?...

I was not aware they ahd photo capability back then, let alone color photos at that. I always assumed you guys didnt have it was because of the cost of lithographs, and how cumbersome they were to lug around


joking.

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Sorry to hear of your loss as well. Like i said im in "dirty water" AKA Waterbury.
You should look into the e-cigg if you can't stay away from cigarettes they do make them with out nicotine ass well for the once in a blue moon need a cig habit.

""makes me wonder if thier trying to crash phillip morris or something.""

Not even close. Nicotine kills parasites in your body. When our GI's went to the Pacific Islands they'd actually chew and eat cigarettes to kill the parasites they picked up.

They mandated tobacco companies reduce the amount of nicotine in products and have been going after it hard.

Why?

When they release the biologicals to reduce the world population they don't want you to have lots of nicotine in your system to kill the bacteria/parasites. Plus with more people sick from parasites American Pharmaceuticals can peddle more poisons. Thats why there is a war on nicotine, it protects you.

In az they card you like crazy, i asked a woman cashier when she asked for my id i said what does 40 years old look like? No answer.Alot of people look younger but it really gets annoying when you have to tell them that if i was under 18 id get a homeless guy to buy me ciggarettes like i used to when i was younger. My advice if you smoke roll your own buy a large bag of loose tabbaco and tubes invest in a 7.00 dollars roller and go to town on that. I do not want my ID scanned at all or buy from the local small owned shops money stays in the community and the big corporations dont get your money or info.