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“Lucifer” (light-bearer)is a generic title referring to the morning star (Venus). As such, it has been used throughout history to refer to Satan, Christ, and others. With this in mind, Isaiah 14:12 starts out “How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!”. Taken as a separate verse, this appears to refer to the battle of angels – however, the PASSAGE starts at Isaiah 12:4 “Thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon” and towards the end is Isaiah 14:22 “For I will rise up against them saith the Lord of hosts, and cut of from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, Saith the Lord.” Thus Lucifer in the Old Testament refers to some unnamed Babylonian king.
Originally posted by Reconciler
satan was a fallen angel , also known as lucifer ( son of the morning ). The bible is clearly talking about an entity not a thought process and is referred to as "him " not " it " .
I do agree that logic is the opposite of faith , but if logic were satan , that would mean that faith is God , which it isn't.
Originally posted by DuceizBack
Does anybody agree with me?