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The salient points that emerge from this discussion are the following. No such magic brew as the popular notion of truth serum exists. The barbiturates, by disrupting defensive patterns, may sometimes be helpful in interrogation, but even under the best conditions they will elicit an output contaminated by deception, fantasy, garbled speech, etc. A major vulnerability they produce in the subject is a tendency to believe he has revealed more than he has. It is possible, however, for both normal individuals and psychopaths to resist drug interrogation; it seems likely that any individual who can withstand ordinary intensive interrogation can hold out in narcosis. The best aid to a defense against narco-interrogation is foreknowledge of the process and its limitations. There is an acute need for controlled experimental studies of drug reaction, not only to depressants but also to stimulants and to combinations of depressants, stimulants, and ataraxics.
According to prevailing medical thought, information obtained under the influence of intravenously-administered sodium amytal can be unreliable; subjects may mix fact and fantasy in that context. Skeptics imply that much of the claimed effect of the drug relies on the belief of the subject that he or she cannot tell a lie while under its influence. Some observers also feel that amobarbital does not increase truth-telling, but merely increases talking; hence, both truth and fabrication are more likely to be revealed in that construct.
The CIA was still searching for a viable "truth serum" � the Holy Grail of the cloak-and-dagger trade � when it initiated Operation Artichoke in the early 1950s and began utilizing '___' during interrogation sessions. Odorless, colorless, and tasteless, '___' was hailed as a "potential new agent for unconventional warfare," according to a classified CIA report dated Aug. 5, 1954. But even a surreptitious dose of '___', the most potent mind-bending drug known to science, could not guarantee that an interrogation subject would spill the beans.
Perhaps the concept of a "truth serum" was a bit farfetched, for it presupposed that there was a way to chemically bypass the mind�s censor and turn the psyche inside out, unleashing a profusion of secrets. After much trial and error, the CIA realized that it doesn�t quite work that way.
Eventually, CIA experts figured out the most effective way to employ '___' as an aid to interrogation. They used its terrifying effects on some prisoners as a third-degree tactic. A skillful interrogator could gain leverage over prisoners by threatening to keep them in a crazed, tripped-out state forever unless they agreed to talk. This method sometimes proved successful where others had failed. '___' has been used for interrogations on an operational basis albeit sparingly since the mid-1950s.
U.S. Army interrogators also employed EA-1729 (the code for '___') as an intelligence-extracting aid. Similar to the strategy of their CIA counterparts, Army interrogators used the drug to scare the daylights out of people who were zonked and terror-stricken on acid.
Documents pertaining to Operation Derby Hat record the results of several EA-1729 interrogations conducted by the Army in the Far East during the early 1960s. One subject vomited three times and stated that he wanted to die� after he had been slipped some '___'. His reaction was described as moderate.
After another target absorbed triple the dose normally used in such sessions, he kept collapsing and hitting his head on a table. The subject voiced an anti-communist line, an Army report noted, and begged to be spared the torture he was receiving. In this confused state he even asked to be killed in order to alleviate his suffering.
Do experts believe they really work?
The idea of a "truth serum" has never been widely accepted. Although there have been waves of enthusiasm for the idea of a drug that can extract information reliably, there has been even more skepticism. Ever since the 1920s, many judges, psychiatrists, and scientists have rejected the idea that there is a drug that can get memories out intact. They have claimed, instead, that it makes people feel like talking, but it also puts them in a state of extreme suggestibility: people will pick up on cues about what questioners want to hear and repeat that back. This is one of the reasons that statements made under the influence of these drugs have never, as far as I know, been accepted in an American court.
by death penalty or direct action of the fbi?
Originally posted by andy1033
Na i would not do it fact, fbi like our mi5 are just murderers looking for innocent people to kill, while everyone else laughs.
150,000 murders in usa in ten years,
can you explain the electronic mind control technology any further and how you know for a fact that it exists?
and i know for a fact that electronic mind control exist in uk since 1992 when i was at school.
so then the deaths you're talking about are death penalties being carried out?
That shows police like fbi are solicitating murder, as they could use these techs to find out if people on death row are innocent.
Fbi or mi5 have no interest in truths or saving lifes.