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The Normailzation of Insanity

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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 11:37 AM
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Bank of America Murals

The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder - Video!

USA Strikes China ?

webbot tipping point/emotional release 14/11/10 at 6.50 am.....
General Conspiracies 6 days ago

The reality of Homsexulaity

Christianity is bad

Catholcism is evil

The Pope is the Anti-Christ.

Bilderbergs

NWO

I saw UN equipment is Arizona!

These are just a few of the rabid dog, frothing at the mouth crazy posts. Why?

Heaven knows you have the God given right to espouse these thoughts. But at what point do we have to give you credence and at what point do we have the right to call you what you are...paranoid?

The most popular phrase on the site is "sheeple." You truly believe that those who disagree with you and your opinion are simply not as informed as you. You "get it." We don't. You took the time to find the truth. We are simply following the MSM and are under the spell of the NWO brainwashing. The last time I checked you guys who say that we are uninformed and you "understand the truth of the situation" are the same who accuse the government of the same. The government says they see the truth and you, the great conspiratorial unwashed masses are the brainwashed. Hmm...

You say Christianity is a "myth." " Oh come on." you say. "Jonah spent 3 days in a whale. Impossible." "Jesus was simply a great teacher but hardly the son of God. He was just taking the Greek Apollo position," "The Bible is just a retelling of the ancient texts which, BTW are real." I love that. The Bible is false but these ancient texts are real.

You say Homosexuality is no different then being born blonde, Asian or straight. "It is not a choice. We are born that way." Ok. You are born not able to replicate your self the way you were born. You were born wanting to have sex with a person who is unable to replicate without an army of scientists standing behind you. Oh, sure, You can have sex with a striaght person. But you must have that scientific army or you must do what you find repulsive. Have sex with a another sex. And you say that is normal. You MUST step out of your view of normal to have kids. Hmm...

"The U.S. is the center of evil," you say. "Look at Iraq and Afghanistan and Vietnam and the FEMA camps and AIDS (Which the U.S created) and the Patriot act and George Bush and Cheney." "The U.S kills and rapes and tortures and is the greatest threat to world peace ever." 'Socialism is a great idea." "Capitalism is evil."
Hmmm.

I know that this is a post that will be ignored or ridiculed. Tha's fine.

Just had to get this off my chest.

I think conspiracy is fine. I think that "I am smart. You are stupid," is stupid and a waste of electrons.

Christianity is good. So is Islam and Paganism. Let's play it all out and see who is there at the end.

I think that Homosexuals are broken. But they are still people who deserve love and respect. Until you try to tell me that you want "Jimmy has two Mommies" in my kids grade school. You keep your desires in your bedroom and I will do the same. Stop trying to tell us that you are the same as a striaght person. You ain't.

I think that the U.S. is the last and best hope for the world. If the U.S. goes down then where will all you gays go? Iran? Where will all of you pagans go. And all of you anti-government, anti-capitalists...where will you go? China? Burma? Russia?




posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 11:53 AM
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You really need to get a passport and do some travelling mate.

if America fell....the gheyz would go to a hundred thousand other places on the world where they are treated fine...why point out the few places in the world that even straight westerners would have difficulty going?

the US is a nice place...however, the greatest last hope for what? cheese filled hot dog bread? its good to have some national pride, but thinking somehow your or any nation is the centerpoint of hope in the universe is religious nonsense.
and besides, clearly Amsterdam is the last best hope


Who will "win out" in the religious ideal wars? meh...who cares...with any luck the agnostic movement will eventually win out and people will abandon structured religion across the board in favor for personal spirituality and private connection with the universe...damn church verses synagog verses mosque wars are soo 16th century.

As far as the rabid craziness of ATS...meh, welcome to ATS I guess...its not meant to be a calm and subtle discussion about light connections...its where people vent their crazy to get picked apart and seen if anything stands.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by crmanagerI think that "I am smart. You are stupid," is stupid and a waste of electrons.


How about "I am sane. You are insane"? Isn't that basically what you're saying here about people whose ideas and opinions don't agree with yours? That they're insane?

And if the US is the last best hope for the world, we're in worse shape than I thought!



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:01 PM
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Two things first of all... While there are some posts on here that stretch credibility, it is up to the ATS member to judge whether a certain topic is worthy of further discussion or not. I think the real lunatic posts quickly get called out on here. Secondly, your biggest problem seems to be that there are anti-religious threads on here. I think you have subconsciously tried to disguise pro religious sentiment underneath a plea for sanity. If you really want ATS people to stop putting up anti christian threads, just come right out and say it... don't try to hide it with complaints about other complaints.

Secondly, the sheer destruction and suffering the government of the United States has wrought on not only it's own people but the entire world for the last 50 years may be unmeasurable. If think the U.S. is the best hope for anything you are sadly mis-informed and mistaken.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:06 PM
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Gee, i hope you re feelin better now....Thats a mouthfull, but generally id have to say i pretty much have to agree....
I believe that a large part of this insanity is deliberately created.By that i mean, by many many sources, all with their agendas to push....
The means to favourite status is squeeking the loudest.I dont know how many special interest groups are vying for your attention right now, but the clamour is deafening when taken collectively.
If the right means could be manipulated, well the result would be a cacophony of information which will actually keep the recipient in a state of entrainment.
Simple black ops would suffice, along with other methods to spur the people in any direction one can envision.
I try to remember that the average man/woman is choking down a state of near panic deep inside.With ecconomic control we are kept in debt and working as long as we can function profitably.
We generally have little time for composure, and that is taken up with TV progamming that like it or not affects everyone regardless.......
There is no mental escape from being influenced, and emotionally over whelmed by the big eye.....Its not possible that it doesnt affect your mental and emotional well being.

The control of this multiphasic progamming tool is in the hands of a few elitist billionares.....
Our very goverments composed of human beings also are tuned to this instrument so no hope of them seeing the trap.
Do you think that the tipping point is when the majority of humankind is so unbalanced that we all go off at the same trigger?We destroy ourselves, almost totally, and the ETs walk in and take over?just sayin.....



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:08 PM
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I am not sure anymore what insane means. It is supposed to mean not sane and not like the norm or what ever. But the norm is being a beast and destroying, and what ever.

First time i am given a flag to an op. Nice thread. Sums up our world.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by crmanager
Christianity is bad

Catholcism is evil


This is what makes me laugh most. Peopel do not understand human society has only had one moral society ever, and thats the one under christian rule. lol.

All other societies have been pagan based,a nd based on anything beastly, or what ever, lol.

The one time human race had morals and they call it evil, lol.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by andy1033

Originally posted by crmanager
Christianity is bad

Catholcism is evil


This is what makes me laugh most. Peopel do not understand human society has only had one moral society ever, and thats the one under christian rule. lol.

All other societies have been pagan based,a nd based on anything beastly, or what ever, lol.

The one time human race had morals and they call it evil, lol.


I personally have no major issue with a christian society...christianity is frankly the most peaceful and reasonable modern day religion in a group of insane crazy nonsense..

don't get me wrong...they are still in the crazy violent nonsense box with the rest of them, they just are sort of the best of a bad lot.

I think the point is not to simply embrace the best of the worst, but to continously try and progress past the fear of a old man on a throne bitchslapping us if we do something naughty. Religion is a drug for the masses whom have otherwise savage tendencies and it makes up for a poor law enforcement infrustructure. I think we as a civil society may be at the point where we do not need the threat of boogiemen and deities to have standards and principles...and the boogiemen/deity thing has alot of very ancient weight attached to it which no longer fits an advancing society.

It served us well to get to where we are today...however, like all things, it is past its use by date and its time to adopt a better way...one that stresses personal responsibility and harmony on a personal level.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by andy1033
The one time human race had morals and they call it evil, lol.


a couple sidenotes btw.

Hitler was a devout christian
Spain was christian when they were doing their inquisition
I could go on for pages on the terrors and horrors of christianity and your soo called human race having morals because of christianity...to include how moral crusaders went to the peaceful heathen pagans and wholesale slaughtered them, armed or not, simply for having a different belief system.

religion...big gigantic religions that sway men and muscle...are bad...all bad. there is no morality in a guy with a fancy robe telling you that God told him he wants people dead...if done by a single person, its called serial killing insanity...if done by a organization, its called church.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:24 PM
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No society is ever going to be perfect, but you do have to have rules.

I just find it funny when we live in a world that calls christianity evil. It gave us the society we have had in the west, and it gave you lot usa, which you claim is the only country where man was free. Of course usa is not like that now, and it is a democracy, so your slaves to the system again.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:24 PM
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Why did you create this thread? So that you could respond to all those threads you listed in one swoop?



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by andy1033
reply to post by SaturnFX
 


No society is ever going to be perfect, but you do have to have rules.

I just find it funny when we live in a world that calls christianity evil. It gave us the society we have had in the west, and it gave you lot usa, which you claim is the only country where man was free. Of course usa is not like that now, and it is a democracy, so your slaves to the system again.


Christianity did not "give us the USA"...guns did as we killed the native people and conquored the land.

then with the surviving members, we taught them the mercy of christianity...yay.

I would prefer an Aphrodite based religion had taken over...harvest, love, and pleasure movement verses the Apollo angry paladin based one if given a choice...they promoted the wrong God!



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:34 PM
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I completely understand where ur coming from and can see why u would feel the way u do. A lot of crazy things are discussed here but it's a conspiracy site so I'm not sure what ur expecting to find???
You completely lost me on the whole 'ho-mo-sexule' part. You're ok with 'them' until they want to have kids?? Or until 'Jimmy' is in the same school as ur kid?? Whats ur problem with any of it? How does it affect ur life and how u live it on a daily basis? How does a child living in a healthy happy home bother u? How does sending their child to school say anything of their desires in the bedroom? "They' deserve love and respect as long as u dont have to come into contact with or deal with them?
Your thought process went from understandable to bigoted really quick. Diversity of all kinds is beautiful to me. I thrive on it. My thoughts are that I can never live long enough to experience everything our world has to offer so I live them thru others. I dont agree with everyone but I always learn from them.Ur doing urself and Jimmy and his parents a diservice by not embracing them wholeheartedly whether u agree with them or not.
If the govt goes down then were all in the same boat and sexual preference should be the least of ur worries...as it should be every day. I'm against our govt and where it's lead us. I want the govt that I was promised when I was little, so should u. We'll stay here an build anew, the way it's meant to be. Homosexuals and anti-govt do not = pussy. It means were able to take a stance no matter how were viewed by others. We are fortitude. Keep in mind that Jimmys folks or anti-goverment Kim may be the ones to save UR ass. Dont hate those who go against the grain, we're the ones who make change.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX


I would prefer an Aphrodite based religion had taken over...harvest, love, and pleasure movement verses the Apollo angry paladin based one if given a choice...they promoted the wrong God!


I do agree with what you said in the post, but if choosing a "perfect" religion of love and compassion to "take over", then would'nt rather Buddhism be that religion?


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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:41 PM
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I think a mixture of buddhism or christianity is the best mix for me. It is what religion should be for me. But like op says, society has normalised evil, as something that is sane.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Nightchild

Originally posted by SaturnFX


I would prefer an Aphrodite based religion had taken over...harvest, love, and pleasure movement verses the Apollo angry paladin based one if given a choice...they promoted the wrong God!


I do agree with what you said in the post, but if choosing a "perfect" religion of love and compassion to "take over", then would'nt rather Buddhism be that religion?


edit on 20-11-2010 by Nightchild because: (no reason given)


I have trouble seeing buddism as a religion verses a guided spiritual awakening on a person to person basis. I simply choose not to classify buddism as a actual religion in that regards.
philosophy of life...no hell to demand you follow the rules...arguably not much on the topics of heaven...its about personal ascention into something more meaningful...and if you screw up...meh, try again next time...you will get it eventually.

Just saying...the aprhotide based ancient sects were quite interesting



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:50 PM
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I think the problem with Buddhism is it embraces another male figure. Aphrodite based religion is just that, a religion. Why is it so difficult to embrace the Goddess. She is the equal counterpart to the male representative. For every black there is a white, for every yin there is a yang. Personally I think we should have a female based govt running our country, maybe the world. Men have over time proven theirselves lacking in the abilty, hence the state of our world. My wish is that women support one another, not be bitches to or jealous, hateful to one another. We can accomplish so much by working in unison. We could take over the patriarchal society we live in and I think it's about time.

Kim



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:52 PM
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This is a perfect example of what I was expecting.

No, I don't care if Jimmy is in the classroom. I care that his parents BOB and TOm are trying to convince my kids that BOB and TOM is equal to a straight marriage.

You CAN NOT go down the road of "All things are equal." Can't. Won't happen. Look at Rome. Look at the Greeks.

Affluence breeds the fight out of people. We are so wealthy that we are no discussing if BOB and TOM deserve public acknowledgemenent of their relationship. If animals deserve the same rights as people. If Parents have no say over their children. If Christianity is deserving of respect. If the U.S should even exist.

We are putting up with people who say they are smarter then others because they "get it" and others are simply to "drugged up" on their religion or their nationalism.

We are insane and need to realize that we got to this point by 3 things...

God
Guns
Respect for the individual and not the collective.

Those 3 things gave insane people the right to disparage God, guns and respect for the individual.

A famous Dutch gay humonist said, 'I never appreciated my rights until I had to fight for them."

We sane people are now fighting for them.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by andy1033
reply to post by Nightchild
 


I think a mixture of buddhism or christianity is the best mix for me. It is what religion should be for me. But like op says, society has normalised evil, as something that is sane.



Actually, I was thinking along those roads myself just now, about a possible combination of Christianity and Buddhism. However, If that is to be actually followed on the road of Love and Compassion, it is required that the followers do not use the parts of Christianity as an exscuse for their own hatred towards people or folkgrous, as so many of them unfortunately do right now- Something that I just cannot see the "original" Christ even remotely agreeing with.


As for normalizing Evil... Well, I can agree partly with it, as certain discriminating "ways" is nowadays largely considered fully okay, as it is "politically Correct". This, in my opinion, is one of the definitions of "Evil".

Other parts I don't agree with at all, although I am very aware that a bunch of tinfoil hats and extreme "Christians" have decided that same sex-relations is pure evil and that all G@ys are part of NWO to take over the World.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by Demetre
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I think the problem with Buddhism is it embraces another male figure. Aphrodite based religion is just that, a religion. Why is it so difficult to embrace the Goddess. She is the equal counterpart to the male representative. For every black there is a white, for every yin there is a yang. Personally I think we should have a female based govt running our country, maybe the world. Men have over time proven theirselves lacking in the abilty, hence the state of our world. My wish is that women support one another, not be bitches to or jealous, hateful to one another. We can accomplish so much by working in unison. We could take over the patriarchal society we live in and I think it's about time.

Kim



Well, if so, then the Aphrodite-Religion, or atleast the pressumed followers, are revealed as being a sexist and misandric religion, if the only reason to follow this religion instead of other equally good religions, would be that the Deity is a female.


Then we are right back once again on a gender centered religion, and everyone would just be going in circles forever.

I just cannot see the horror of a Male-centered religion, if that religion is based on true Love and Compassion and Peace.
What would be the point? That it is politically correct?



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