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The Basic rules to understanding.

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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 01:42 AM
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Rule #1. UFO WITNESSES in the 21century will not use lights in our visual report any more when it comes to sightings.
From now on, we will directly say, I saw 3 engines or 1 engine ,how ever many u see, they are Engines.
We will not allow ourselves to continue to use lights as our basic understanding of what we are seeing, they are Engines…Period.

Rule #2. There has never in the history of life ever been a saucer ,a tube shape object or a craft as big as a bloody state.

Rule #3 alllll saucer sightings have always been the triangle .
The triangle has the ability to turn 1 if not 2 of there ENGINES ON and off and of course the 3 ENGINES that u see.
“They have the CAPABILITY to cloak every thing but there [3 SEPARATE ENGINE].
‘3 SEPARATE ENGINES’ that are actually 3 separate engines ,that can be controlled in three separate ways.

Rule #4 and this is important.. DON’T LET NO BODY TELL U THAT SOMETHING THAT BIG CAN FLY SO LOW AND SO SLOW WITH OUT FALLING AND CRASHING out the bloody sky.
Don’t let them trick u into believing what makes since as an earthling and with the common knowledge of flight ,speed and common sense.

Rule #5 ALL, tube shape sightings in the history have always been one of the sides of’ THE TRIANGLE’ from a distance.

RULE #6 When u look at the night vision videos and what they are following suddenly disappears ,always look at where the SINGLE ENGINE PROBE disappeared in ,the probes are always DOCKING inside the triangle. Look for the three engines a mist the stars.. Connect the stars and u will bare witness to them.

Rule # 7 Think triangle AND UP when it comes to, GERMANY ,IRAQ ,EGYPT AND IRAN for clear good evidence of there influence on humans.

Rule #8 Think reptilian ‘DOWN ‘when it comes to India Mexico CHINA and the majority of the east.

Rule#9 Triangle abductions stories are bad .

Rule #10 Reptilian abduction stories they lead u by the hand.

Rule #11 half the trinkets that are looked at as spacesuits and flying objects in the ancient times was actually the reptilian race in there sea suits and there water crafts that to my knowledge only came out heavy during the world war 1 and 2 event.

If u can just adjust to rule #1 then I thank you, just getting tired of the people below laughing at the reports.

As one person said deep below us.

“And they still report them as lights, loll’

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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 02:02 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527




Rule #4 and this is important.. DON’T LET NO BODY TELL U THAT SOMETHING THAT BIG CAN FLY SO LOW AND SO SLOW WITH OUT FALLING AND CRASHING out the bloody sky.
Don’t let them trick u into believing what makes since as an earthling and with the common knowledge of flight ,speed and common sense.



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Reject common sense? common sense is just another term for reason. you want us to separate reason from observation? commons sense tells me that is just unreasonable.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 02:18 AM
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Your OP is worth a flag for the effort and thinking you've put into it even I disagree with some of the 'rules.' It's good to see an original spin on things.


The engines rule is on shaky ground. When pilots have reported UFOs buzzing their aircraft, they've been described as lights or glowing craft. If the light is facing the observer, it's unlikely to be an engine as the thrust needs to be behind the craft and out of the observer's sightline.

Ground-based witnesses and airborne observers have been explicit in describing 'saucer-shaped' discs in daylight sightings. The commonest dimension appears to be around 30ft diameter. I've had a couple of good UFO sightings and was thinking the other day how it'd be to see a genuine 'no BS' craft. Imagine experiencing one of those legendary sightings of the Black Triangle/boomerang slowly cruising down the highway and then leaping away in a flash?! Pretty cool stuff.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 03:15 AM
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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 03:27 AM
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RULE # 12 MULTIPLE SUACERS/MULTIPLE LIGHTS.IN REALITY 'MULTIPLE ENGINES'.

The rules of 'Multiples‘, When it comes to sightings, always think in 'Threes' ,if it is out of the 3 equation then the left over’s are always probes or stars.


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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 03:36 AM
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Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Immortalgemini527
 
Your OP is worth a flag for the effort and thinking you've put into it even I disagree with some of the 'rules.' It's good to see an original spin on things.


The engines rule is on shaky ground. When pilots have reported UFOs buzzing their aircraft, they've been described as lights or glowing craft. If the light is facing the observer, it's unlikely to be an engine as the thrust needs to be behind the craft and out of the observer's sightline.

Ground-based witnesses and airborne observers have been explicit in describing 'saucer-shaped' discs in daylight sightings. The commonest dimension appears to be around 30ft diameter. I've had a couple of good UFO sightings and was thinking the other day how it'd be to see a genuine 'no BS' craft. Imagine experiencing one of those legendary sightings of the Black Triangle/boomerang slowly cruising down the highway and then leaping away in a flash?! Pretty cool stuff.



And what do pilots see flying mach5,the same thing every one else sees, that front 1 engine during mach 100 at WILL.

U SEE, and this is the cliff Hager, all ground sightings reported always stated that they saw 3 lights ,because that’s when there in 'hovering mode",When its low and slow like that, in 97% of cases those was the times in which witnesses always see the 3 engines.

The only thing the pilot ever sees is when they see the triangle just using the front engine.

AND IT GETS EXTRA FUNNY IF THEY TURN ON THE OTHER 2?

>PILOT TO BASE, NOW IM SEEING MULTIPLE SAUCERS'..LMAF,HOW HILARIOUS.
In half those pilot sightings they was chasing a triangle in cloak ,and this is why they fly the way they do. This is why they maneuver the way they do,because imagine if u had
oh hell no, no t again
do it i dare you.
He wouldn’t dare.

Greatest secret ever told to humans.
Why do u think the 3 engines are underneath?
3 Engines turned on = hovering/flying just underneath the clouds/flying low and big and slow because there is 3 engines 'UNDERNEATH' IT.
LEFT ENGINE TURNED ON =one of the hardest left turns in the history of vision.
RIGHT ENGINE TURNED ON = one of the hardest right turns in the history of aviation.
And lord forbid if they decide to turn all three engines on when they are trying to chase them.
Don’t believe me ,listen to how the pilots describe there move meant
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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 04:34 AM
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When i was young i saw a triangle at altitude through my fathers army binoculars. I dont know how long these things have been about, but i remember watching it for a good five minutes or so traverse the sky. It was around dusk, and i remember thinking i didnt know concordes flew that high. I had absolutely no idea back then, not until some years back when i clocked one on a ufo video somewhere. No flashing lights,and more lights than a plane and a perfect small black triangle crossing the sky, that was my wake up call.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 04:40 AM
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Rule #1. UFO WITNESSES in the 21century will not use lights in our visual report any more when it comes to sightings.
From now on, we will directly say, I saw 3 engines or 1 engine ,how ever many u see, they are Engines.
We will not allow ourselves to continue to use lights as our basic understanding of what we are seeing, they are Engines…Period.


anf your evidence for this blanket assertion is ???????????
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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 05:32 AM
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PROOVE IT!!!!
Just joking.
I like the way you think but i will propably have to disagree to some of your rules:




Rule #1. UFO WITNESSES in the 21century will not use lights in our visual report any more when it comes to sightings. From now on, we will directly say, I saw 3 engines or 1 engine ,how ever many u see, they are Engines.


I think we will have to still use the term "lights",because a UFO doesn't mean that it's actually a craft(human or alien).Sometimes meteorites,stars and flares are reported as UFOs and they are not engines.




Rule #2. There has never in the history of life ever been a saucer ,a tube shape object or a craft as big as a bloody state.


I don't know if this has been debunked,but to my knowledge nazis had flying saucers
www.thelivingmoon.com...

And here's your tube shape object that can be confused as a UFO


In the 2004 olympics in Athens we had a zeppelin patroling in the sky.In the night if you didn't know that there was a zeppelin up there you would report that there is a cigar shape ufo in the sky.




Rule #4 and this is important.. DON’T LET NO BODY TELL U THAT SOMETHING THAT BIG CAN FLY SO LOW AND SO SLOW WITH OUT FALLING AND CRASHING out the bloody sky. Don’t let them trick u into believing what makes since as an earthling and with the common knowledge of flight ,speed and common sense.

If it is an alien craft it might use some technology that us earthlings do not understand and might not apply to the laws of flight,as we know them...




If u can just adjust to rule #1 then I thank you, just getting tired of the people below laughing at the reports.

I'm a believer,i watch every video posted here,i don't laugh with any report made even if they are too obvious that they are flares,planes,meteorites,cgi.Maybe one day one of us will catch the real thing.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 09:38 AM
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I do not think it is accurate to say that people in general have a problem with reports of " Lights in the sky" . However, I think people do have a problem with those incidents being used as part of the weight of evidence for extra terrestrial life, because we have not as yet confirmed the origins of ANY of the mysterious lights in the sky. We cannot say for absolutely certain that the lights are alien craft.
We CAN say that the lights follow on occasion , utterly unusual flight paths, comprising of right angles flown at the speed of sound and so on. We can say that a light APPEARS to slow to a stop midflight, but we cannot prove that the effect is anything more than an aircraft on a flight path which puts its running lights dead toward our vantage point.
We cannot PROVE any of the cases of abduction, only that in extremely rare cases the incidents cannot be adequately explained by human factors.
None of that mere circumstance adds up to an iron clad conclusion. THAT is the basic rule to understanding. Simply that if you believe, the burden of proof is on you, to ensure that you only make claims which can be proven, the burden of ensuring that you do not over react, is on you. It is up to each of us, who truely believes, to make damn sure that the only evidence we bother the rest of the world with, is so iron clad and tight, that not even a microbe could violate it. That requires every single one of us to learn the importance of evidence, and what does and does not constitute evidence.
From now on, we should focus only on what can be tested by a lab, because even the most thorough skeptic cannot argue with a test tube and a bar graph.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 11:57 AM
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Rules are for those who seek to restrict the possibilities and feed ignorance.

Would you dismiss something because it didn't fit one of your rules or would you just create a new one? In which case, why not conclude that there ARE no rules when it comes to something that is based on non conclusive evidence and little or no proof.

Well done on creating this post but I can't star or flag it.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by ignorant_ape
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Rule #1. UFO WITNESSES in the 21century will not use lights in our visual report any more when it comes to sightings.
From now on, we will directly say, I saw 3 engines or 1 engine ,how ever many u see, they are Engines.
We will not allow ourselves to continue to use lights as our basic understanding of what we are seeing, they are Engines…Period.


anf your evidence for this blanket assertion is ???????????
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Because i saw one in good detail.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 11:17 PM
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I feel as if this thread should have been

The Basic rules to understanding
... According to me. You cannot actually say that these rules need to be applied based on "your" thoughts concerning the sightings of others. No ONE and I mean NO ONE has looked through every single video or pic ever on the internet, forums, UFO magazines, or media, to even make such requests.

You dont know, I dont know, most of those who lurk around the UFO threads dont know. But that doesn't seem to stop people from feeling free to make such threads, or to call others thoughts or sighting incomprehensible based on "their" own theories. If there are soooo many experts here, why aren't they made public?

Why not share with the world, the New and Improved UFO Sightings? You never know, you may change the world!

Peace, NRE.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by nerbot
Rules are for those who seek to restrict the possibilities and feed ignorance.

Would you dismiss something because it didn't fit one of your rules or would you just create a new one? In which case, why not conclude that there ARE no rules when it comes to something that is based on non conclusive evidence and little or no proof.

Well done on creating this post but I can't star or flag it.


‘Sometimes when i want to go deep in the frequncie,i stare at stars into i get in there, love your aviator think i can get in with out going out side now, loll.’

I don’t want to tell u that i was abducted by the triangle race, and i really wouldn’t tell u that i was also abducted by the reptilian race, i wouldn’t even dare tell u I’m the reason the show ancient aliens has so much info to even give u all.

The only thing im going to tell u is the truth, and try my dandiest best to get your brains upgraded in the 21scenturie frequencies of knowing things.
Its up to u to believe.

U see...
When you here reports of people or organizations asking questions on aliens and such, your asking and guessing.

‘U need to simply say ‘hey, I saw those three engines underneath a flying triangle ship….PERIOD !
Now tell us what it is.’

Not that old soft sissy bs.
“Well, I saw 3 lights in the sky and it formed as a triangle and I think it was an alieN” HELLLLLLLL no

How can they respect u if u ask and tell what u might have seen.

I’m just trying to teach u how to go about best to talking to the government.

Because the questions that you ask them are questions that get truthful answers.
Trust me ,u think there lying to u ,but in truthfulness, their not .



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 11:52 PM
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Rule #13. How to know which sightings are real when it comes to seeing a real triangle.

The triangle is the same height as the pyramid in feet.

The original height of the Great Pyramid was 485 feet.

Any other description in the world of life about the triangle is false.

This is why men that see the triangle always say, "as big as a football field” because that’s a visual easy of 100 yards to man dealing with sports.
There are 480 feet in 160 yards.
This , is how big the triangle really is, this is really what witnesses have been seeing .

Any other size description of the triangle is uncivilized in the new world of urology….it really is.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 11:54 PM
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... According to me. You cannot actually say that these rules need to be applied based on "your" thoughts concerning the sightings of others. No ONE and I mean NO ONE has looked through every single video or pic ever on the internet, forums, UFO magazines, or media, to even make such requests.

You dont know, I dont know, most of those who lurk around the UFO threads dont know. But that doesn't seem to stop people from feeling free to make such threads, or to call others thoughts or sighting incomprehensible based on "their" own theories. If there are soooo many experts here, why aren't they made public?

Why not share with the world, the New and Improved UFO Sightings? You never know, you may change the world!

Peace, NRE.

You dont know, I dont know,
I know, and i never talk in assumptions or theory or guesses,if i dont know 100% ,i dont say nothing but if i know infact i will share,im only sharing knowklege,thats it.



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 12:34 AM
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I think you talk without understanding or perspective and I think you are of an age that still has much to learn...sorry. The "knowledge" you are trying to convey is from a very naive point of view.

In time, you will learn that one person's truth doesn't apply to everyone and that each and every person's concept of reality is different.

The rules you have listed apply to you, nobody else and the way you write them conveys way too much "matter of fact". MANY here would disagree with certain (most) aspects of your list and would not welcome it in their own thought process.

If you are serious about what you have posted here then do us a favour...imagine that after each item of your list someone has said "WHY?", then come back and explain what makes it so to validate what has so far been ignorant statements, and simply following the "because I say so" rule doesn't apply here.

I have to ask....how old are you?


Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
if i dont know 100% ,i dont say nothing but if i know infact i will share,im only sharing knowklege,thats it.


This is not "knowledge", this is personal opinions based on personal points of view with NO facts. Ignorance.
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posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 12:43 AM
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Wisdom knocks quietly, listen carefully.
I dont tell my age to strangers over the ether,sorry.

hey immortal ,how old are we?
he never gave me an age either.
yea,how old do we say we are when asked.
IDIOTS ! U SAY THE SAME THING HE SAID!!!
oh.
u didnt have to yell at us.

I don’t believe in age as the "GOD TIME” HAS NO AGE. We have no age in our philosophy and primitive needs to lock the brain down as words of treason amongst the frequecie of immortality.


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posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 01:19 AM
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O...K.

I'll leave you to babble. Have fun in your little world.



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 01:22 AM
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im a newbie to this site so im not sure if this is the right thread to post in but this evening i saw for the second time what i KNOW to be some sort of alien craft. i live in ashland, va 14 miles outside of richmond. about 3 months ago i witnessed a siting from my driveway in broad daylight. i saw a craft no more than 350 yards from my house hovering above a horse pasture adjacent. it was square at the base and formed a triangle towards the top. there were 11 "blinking" lights evenly separated around the frame of the craft, with 4 visible engines on the bottom (the area at the base). there was a green glow coming from each engine but the glow was only coming from 2 engines at a time in sequences about 2-3 seconds apart. the craft made no noise, but bobbed up and down by about 3 yards in between.i had just gotten home from work and watched it for about 3 minutes before it shot into the sky straight up at a speed i cant approximate. it was there and then unseen within 3 seconds. the lights were an auburn and blue color, but not like colors i could describe by anything ive seen before. i almost thought i was dreaming until tonight when i went outside to see why my neighbors dog had been barking for over 30 minutes, my girlfriend was with me. she looked up and a look of amazement on her face brought my attention to the same shape i had seen before, but this time at night. it was much higher this time but in the same spot, and clearly visible. the colors were much more vibrant of course because it was night but all the same i could tell it was the same craft. this time about 1/3 mile in the air. i had told her about my previous experience but she had been skeptical. i told her this was the same ship i had seen and she was baffled. i saw the same green glow from the engines, in the same sequence. i tried to take a picture with my phone but the ship was so high it didnt focus enough to become visible. i was wondering if someone could tell me the best equipment to use for photographing these sort of events because the next time i dont want to miss my chance...




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