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Maybe, the "Number of the beast" is NOT 666...?

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posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 06:51 AM
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I think you will find that the number was not translated correctly.

It is 616.

I remember reading it in a new scientist article a few years ago.

www.religionnewsblog.com...

That isn't the article I remember but this is now common knowledge.




posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by Arrius

Originally posted by Nightchild

However that is a direct contradiction to what the texts themselves says, that the AntiChist "will be a Man.


Could you tell me where in the Bible it says that? Not to say you're wrong, but just to read that passage in specific again. Thanks.



I have been trying to refind the passage that said this, but to no avail.


Now I am fully certain I read those actual lines, but maybe it wasn't even a description from the Bible but from another religious paper, as there are other texts speaking of a similar entity.

Anyway, I will keep on searching.



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 11:41 AM
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um, not necessarily, the new interpretation is based on the fact they found an older script inciting the number 616, instead of 666, in an ancient garbage dump outside of egypt.

but don't you think it's possible, that was a bad copy, which is the reason it was in the garbage dump in the first place.

script, text, it was an expensive commodity back then, it seems more likely to me, the text they found was in the dump in the first place because it wasn't copied correctly



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 01:11 PM
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But that number is a minimum, with provision for more members, and the Universal House of Justice is specifically barred from being any sort of government, by its own charter (the Will and Testament of Abdu'l-Baha). The Bahai Faith has 'the separation of religion and politics' as one of its core principles, see for example wp.me... where this is listed by Abdu'l-Baha as the ninth (!) in his list of 11 Bahai teachings.


'And there are 10 kings who shall have power with the beast one hour. These shall hate the whore and burn her..'.

Of course that number is a minimum, in the future they shall have 10 and the 10 shall elect another which shall be the 11th and he shall subdue 3. Just because Abdu'l-Baha said the UHJ should not be a government does not mean that it's not. He's a liar and deceiver.


You have been misinformed, there are seven Bahai temples built, and the Bahais have no such plans for Jerusalem. The Bahais are currently building a house of worship on a hill top in Santiago, Chile, and have plans for one on the "mountain" (big hill really) overlooking the port of Haifa, Israel - Mount Carmel. See the wiki article on Bahai houses of worship
en.wikipedia.org...


So there are 7 fully built and 2 in process? Minor details
The plans for jerusalem do in fact exist, and the connections to Bahai are there. People are kept in the dark about these things for a reason.
prophetic-kabbalah.org...
www.jerusalem-academy.org...


This is how baha is written in Arabic...



Actually that says, Ya Baha' ul-abha, as any (Arab) child can see...



Thankyou, you're right. It's still blasphemous. www.bcca.org...

The Greatest Name: "O Glory of the Most Glorious"


Daniel 7:8
I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

Proverbs 30:4
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?

Can you tell?



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 04:01 PM
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666 is the correct number.

The day after Barrack Hussein was elected the Lottery number for illinois was 6-6-6.

www.snopes.com/politics/obama/lottery.asp



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 04:00 PM
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It' all boils down to the procession of the equinox, which is an astrological phenomenon.
Please look up David Flynn for an excellent introduction in this respect.

A brief overveiw:
Picture the ring of the zodiac with the sun in the center. As the Earth orbits the sun, the sun seems to rise each morning in one of 12 constellations ;i.e. Leo, Virgo, etc.
Each year on the spring equinox, it resides in a particular constellation. But it moves ever so slightly, year to year, backwards through the zodiac. These differences are so minute that we cannot detect them without the help of delicate instruments.
It take 72 years for the sun to move just 1 degree in the constellation.Therefore, it takes 2,160 years (72x30) to move through one sign of the zodiac, and 25,920 years (2,160x12)to make one complete cycle through all 12 zodiacal signs.

@catwhoknows....you were getting warm with you numbers.
You said ...
Or 6 x 6 = 36 times 6 = 216.
( if you had used 60 instead of the last 6, you would have gotten 2,160 instead of 216)

Or 6+6 = 12 x 6 = 72.
( these are also relevant ....12 =the number of signs or constellations of the zodiac, 72 + the number of years it takes for the sun to pass through one sign)

Furthermore, if you had tried
6 x 60 = 360 ( the number of degrees in a circle, i.e. the zodiac)
6 x 600=3,600 ( the number of years ancient astronomers ascribe to Nibiru, the mysterious 10th planet)
and so on .......also the numbers 432, 4,320, 43,200, 432,000 are realted to this as are 84, 42, and 144,000



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 05:50 PM
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The 616 predates any reference to 666 by at least a hundred years.

Believe what you like but at least try to be objective about it.

I'm far from religious by the way, I just always found this discovery funny because people still run around thinking its 666, when it isn't.



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 06:13 PM
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I have always believed that there has to be something more...a deeper meaning to this. Notice how the writer notes: "Let him that hath understanding...," as if to say that there is something esoteric in this verse...I thought, the number cannot be simply 666.


It is probably just a strange coincidence but the "popularized" notion of the size of the universe has been calculated by scientists. We are told that everything in the physical universe can be described using no more than 62 digits of pi in base 10?

Archimedes did a calculation for pi using an inscribed and circumscribed hexagon. Later we learn that the hexadecimal digits of pi resonate and can be calculated quickly at any position simply as a function of their decimal place.

So this might mean Archimedes calculated the modern limit to the size of the universe which the bible describes as 1+60+1 positions of pi?

No one else sees a conspiracy here?



posted on Nov, 23 2010 @ 07:10 PM
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So there are 7 fully built and 2 in process? Minor details The plans for jerusalem do in fact exist, and the connections to Bahai are there. People are kept in the dark about these things for a reason.


Glad to see you iamnot, sounding the alarm about Baha'i, there aren't many of us out there! I too enjoy sharing what I know about Baha'i, although at times it does seem like it's still almost too early. Baha'i is just so far off the radar, the average person has no idea about the sinister potential of this syncretistic religious group, headquartered in Israel.

Indeed, people are kept in the dark for a reason. There will be a Third Temple, and the big surprise might be that it isn't an exclusively "Jewish" affair. Few people realize that the Temples of old were in fact places where other people could worship as well. Fewer still know that there is no absolute requirement that a Temple be built on the Temple Mount. Certainly, Christians who believe Christ's words "should" believe that the Wailing Wall "should not" be a remnant of that Temple that was supposed to be utterly destroyed.

One thing I wonder about sometimes is "how" exactly the Ark of the Covenant could be "found". If this is in the big plan, that it should be a part of the new Temple (not that it's required, the Second Temple did not have the Ark), but how might Baha'i play into it? Could they possibly get in the middle of the whole affair somehow?

I have written about the "number of the Beast" before in connection with Mohamed, but you shine more light on Baha'i in this regard, I will have to look into it more.

Anyway, you certainly have my support.

JR



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 07:08 PM
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the Universal House of Justice is specifically barred from being any sort of government, by its own charter (the Will and Testament of Abdu'l-Baha). The Bahai Faith has 'the separation of religion and politics' as one of its core principles, see for example wp.me... where this is listed by Abdu'l-Baha as the ninth (!) in his list of 11 Bahai teachings.


Your statements suggest that you are likely Baha'i.

Considering the fact that this thread specifically treats of this mysterious number, "666", I wonder if you could kindly share the Baha'i perspective on this number.

From what I understand, the Baha'i are pretty much the only religious group that thinks this number is "good"...Perhaps people reading through this thread might like to hear the "other side"...Could you elaborate?

JR



posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by seenitall
The 616 predates any reference to 666 by at least a hundred years.

Believe what you like but at least try to be objective about it.

I'm far from religious by the way, I just always found this discovery funny because people still run around thinking its 666, when it isn't.


With the prevalence of 'Swedish Rounding' the number of the Beast is now 670.




posted on Nov, 24 2010 @ 09:06 PM
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i wonder if there even is a way to calculate the number? ive seen a lot of theories and only a few have seemed to hit home.
edit on 24-11-2010 by WJjeeper because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 07:09 PM
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ok, I used what I knew. I used the hebrew alphabet. The word is ziv wich means splendor glamor luster brilliance and brightness now back words i got vision so i really don't know but i am about to try the greek alphabet i will post any updates
edit on 25-4-2011 by mysterio6655 because: i was incorrect



posted on Apr, 27 2011 @ 07:10 PM
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6+6 12*6 is 72 is actually really interestingalot of people who look into the freemasonry and existance of the illumanati found that in 1772 is when satans reign began in the world there is another post in ATS having to do with numerology on the dollar bill beneath the pyramid



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