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Is this a real alien picture? And what about this Roswell EBE footage?

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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by RUSSO
The picture i found im my HD. I downloaded this a many years ago and did not save the description.

Does anyone have any information about it?

Is it a real deal?
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And about this alleged video of the Roswell crash. This dootage was supposedly taken after the Roswell UFO crash of 1947. One of the aliens can be seen on a stretcher.
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And about this one?
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Geez, I don't see any dust on your thread but you had to go to the deep archives for that one. It's been discussed here ad infinitum and I don't see how you could think that the photo is real and to ask if the Roswell EBE footage is real is jumping off the deep end! The only real thing about Roswell is the balloon debris stored in the National Archives.




posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by The Shrike

... The only real thing about Roswell is the balloon debris stored in the National Archives.


why cant be just a cover-up story for the public? Its easy from Governments to distort, manipulate or hide any info or anything "ultratop secret".
Accord to this...

"It was then reported that General Ramey recognized the remains as part
of a weather balloon. Brigadier General Thomas DuBose, the chief of
staff of the Eighth Air Force said, "[It] was a cover story. The whole
balloon part of it. That was the part of the story we were told to give to the
public and news and that was it."

The military tried to convince the news media from that day forward that
the object found near Roswell was nothing more than a weather balloon"

maybe or maybe not, who knows! its a great mistery and i think government will never unveil the truth.

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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 06:39 PM
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all fake.

#1 just look at the pic,also i'm sure i remember reading it was admitted to be fake.
#2 genuine looking vid, butcamera man constantly obscured, when he does get a head shot, what a suprise, you cant see anything.
#3 look at the torso, looks more like a sack of potatos.

just my humble opinions.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by annella
In the Roswell tape there are lots of people, seems to me that would be difficult finding enough of them willing to be part of a hoax.
Interesting!!


Who says they have to be willing.....they just had their lives and families lives threatened and that is enough to make most people comply.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 09:00 PM
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Roswell... Major Jesse Marcel

A head intelligence officer that they want to convince us that doesn't know distinguish a balloon of something totally alien to the common sense of that time.

Died trying to prove the truth. A hero without a doubt.

Rest in peace Jesse Marcel.

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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 09:09 PM
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#1 - So i'm sure i remember reading it was admitted to be true
#2 - You are blind. Sorry.
#3 - Potatoes? Where you live you see potatoes like that?



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 09:13 PM
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The only real thing about Roswell is the balloon debris stored in the National Archives.


Marcel was a hero. You know that. Do not let anyone make you doubt this.

The USA dont let crazy people to care of nuclear bombs, or do they?

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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 09:39 PM
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I had read once that the first photo was just a monkey...but..who knows if that`s true.

Your first video is of the same deceased alien as in the famous ``Alien Autopsy`` film. Both are very real. Probibley the most important things ever filmed. Note the injury is exactly the same as the autopsy.

I`m still not sure about the rest.


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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by RUSSO


KGB Agents A famous picture... they even made a sculpture of it





Small figure based on an infamous photo of an alien with KGB/SS/FBI agents. According to the Mexican researcher Luis Ruiz Noguez the photo was in fact originally published in June 1950 by the USA based small paper Talk of the Times. The news item mentioned one McKennerich, from Phoenix, and explicitly claimed this was a Martian who came out of a saucer hit by rockets. Even Keyhoe considered it a hoax.


forgetomori.com...



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 10:07 PM
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This version say SS agents but I would lean towards KGB The coats are to scruffy for the SS and too heavy for the FBI. Also the women in the background look more appropriate for a Slavic country




Was reissued in a Brazilian publication


“Above, one of the most impressive photos of an alleged extraterrestrial creature recovered from crashed UFOs. For many years it was thought the photo originated from a crash in the USA, but recently it was found it was captured in Germany, shortly before the Second World War. The officers who hold the being are high-ranking members of the SS” [Brazilian UFO mag, n.18, p.18, dec 1991]


forgetomori.com...


Standard issue Spook trench coat with spy cam... used by CIA, FBI and British intel



Russian one showing coarser woolen coats due to extreme winters





Yup I go with KGB



Ofcourse this famous story was pretty popular back then


The famous image actually first hit the ufological circles when it was published in an Air Force bulletin in the USA on 1950:

“The June 1950 Talk of the Times reproduced a pair of photos received from Cologne, Germany, one of which is a retouched picture of Dr. E.W. Kay’s model saucer that appeared in the press on January 11, 1950. The other is of two agents holding up a small humanoid with proportions somewhat like a small monkey. The caption reads, “As one silver capsule broke: the first Mars man was captured! Eyewitness G-man, McKenerich, from Phoenix (Arizona), reports ‘I was astounded by the importance of this great moment. For the first time I was seeing a being from another world. At the same time I was equally amazed by the desperation of this Aluminum Man. His body was covered with a shiny metal foil.’ The observatory in Phoenix, Arizona, presumes that this is for protection from cosmic rays.””


magonia.haaan.com...

They also have this SS one...




And to think.... no photoshop back then



So it begs the question..

WHY did the Air Force publish this picture?


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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by zaper

Originally posted by The Shrike

... The only real thing about Roswell is the balloon debris stored in the National Archives.


why cant be just a cover-up story for the public? Its easy from Governments to distort, manipulate or hide any info or anything "ultratop secret".
Accord to this...

"It was then reported that General Ramey recognized the remains as part
of a weather balloon. Brigadier General Thomas DuBose, the chief of
staff of the Eighth Air Force said, "[It] was a cover story. The whole
balloon part of it. That was the part of the story we were told to give to the
public and news and that was it."

The military tried to convince the news media from that day forward that
the object found near Roswell was nothing more than a weather balloon"

maybe or maybe not, who knows! its a great mistery and i think government will never unveil the truth.


Yes, the cover story was a weather balloon. But it wasn't a weather balloon, it was a secret project that had to be protected and kept from the Russians who would not have been happy if they found out their nuclear blasts were being spied on. They screwed up with the crashed UFO story but when they realized what they had they softened the lie. The evidence is for the secret project balloon. There is no evidence for anything associated with a UFO.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by Maxmars
As for the first picture....

The picture is a vintage photo that depicts four people; two of which appear to be secret agents of some sort, escorting a small alien-like being. Behind this odd trio are two women, who appear to be following and looking at this strange sight with much interest. You'll find this photo all over the web along with assertions that the photo is genuine or that it's a proven hoax. The problem I've always had is that usually no one is able to back up the claims either way.


It always comes down to that... and what is curious is that every version seems to have trouble identifying who owns those agents
I have seen FBI, CIA KGB and SS cited. Also the origin of the original is attributed to many sources and the fact it was released n an Air Force publication...

Gotta love it when you dig up oldies in the dust. Heck at least its better than CGI balloons on YT



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 11:06 PM
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I did a quick analysis of the video and this is what i came up with.

At 4 seconds in you see lights on stands lighting the area. So i assume this is a night time scene.

13 seconds in you see the right hand. 4 fingers 1 thumb.

31 seconds in you see left foot. has very long toes.

33 seconds in you see left hand, 5 fingers 1 thumb.

34-35 seconds in, looks to be female. no male organs.

36 seconds in you see what appears to be a cheesy looking star on the armband of m.p.

Seems we could say the quality is bad due to age and bad lighting. But the most disturbing part of this video is at 16 seconds in.Plumbers crack from hell.

Hope that helps.
edit on 19-11-2010 by russ1969 because: typo correction



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 11:09 PM
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Hmmm.
The video seems weird, a camera that keeps its distance during a "unique" photo-op? I'd prefer to get some close-ups. This screengrab was from first video via youtube channel. provided clip was too small to see any details...
To me, it looks like its a human that is dead and bloated. Fingers/hand anyway. From the descriptions I've heard, aren't alien fingers/hands quite small, and one less digit, while being longer?



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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 11:33 PM
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The first picture, does not appear to be anything 'alien' to me. I've seen pictures where hunters trophy shoot dead baby monkeys in a similar manner, I doubt people would do that to a caught alien being - especially in this mucked up world we live in..

The second video, I dunno... just has a bad feel to it - nothing is clear (as youd want) nothing is in focus, made to appear like it has been compromised over the years, yet i've never seen such bad quality footage, even of chernobyl after the disaster but before people knew they were pretty much dead. I say - my opinion - faked.

Now the last videos just really pissed me off... wait for more, it will all be revealed... baloney.. in the last one it looked like a paper mache doll... Agh I wanted to punch them. 40 second clips for those who believe, imo.

If that thing was real, and Bilu is real, may he have mercy on my miserable existence... but somehow I doubt it.


edit on 19/11/2010 by badw0lf because: if I throw my keyboard at the wall, I will have a broken wall and no keyboard... I will just meditate...



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon
Gotta love it when you dig up oldies in the dust. Heck at least its better than CGI balloons on YT


Who are you and what have you done with the real Zorgon!



I'm agreeing with nearly all of your posts these days. Something is afoot. and it aint on the end of my leg!




posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 11:38 PM
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Well lets go find em, cut em open and do an autopsy.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 11:45 PM
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Originally posted by ZELDAR
Well lets go find em, cut em open and do an autopsy.


Hot diggity, we gets to cut open people and do a doctor on them !! Woooot!

I just knows my neighbor is a freak alien.. Why she just down right has to be, she speaks in all that alien talk and stuff.. You know, like them I talians but you know shes just fixin something to try and fool us folk.

I bet if we open her up, she'll have all them alien gizzrds inside her, oh boy, I'll go get my sharp stick...



ahh that was almost cathartic.. whew...



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 11:51 PM
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Having watched these videos I think they are absolute fakes and abolute rubbish for these reasons.

for such a momentus occasion when a world first scoop and fame might be at hand, the video makers delibertely use very poor quality video.

The video makers show nothing but fleeting wobbly glimpes of a "corps" of what ever it is.

If it was a real alien corps; the video makers would have used a high definition camera, set it up on a tripod and very slowely pan the camera up and down "the body" several times keeping the cmera very still, knowing there would a huge outcry from the relgious and scientific community saying FAKEEEEEE therefore the video makers would have been at pains to make sure the video could stand up to the most rigorus of scrutiny.

These videos are not even entertaining. This kind of rubbish harms the pro alien arguement big time.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 11:52 PM
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The photo is fake for sure. Watch the man on the right side.His right shoulder is actually the dress of the woman behind(looks like she is watching the alien). And the other woman seems to be folding her hands and leaning at something.

If you look at the legs, its confusing too. Its clear fake. I dont know about the video though.

edit on 19-11-2010 by radkrish because: removed some typos.



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