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Townsend Brown discovered how aliens power their crafts?

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posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 10:10 PM
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have been following this mans history and am finding it fascinating but I am wondering why some of his scientific notebooks have been released to the public.

www.rexresearch.com...


The above I think was written in 1955, He seemed to be knee deep in alot of cool subject s. Founded NICAP but then it looks like the CIA took it over. So what happened to the rest of the notebooks? And how many did he produce in his lifetime? And was anything solid ever produced from his ideas?

I have read that he was brilliant, And that he was a "crackpot" So I am wondering which of these he was. Or was he both maybe like some call Tesla?

Some even say TTBrown discovered how aliens power their crafts. Is it possible?




posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 10:44 PM
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Yes he made some groundbreaking discoveries. After reading Nick Cook's book the hunt for zero point, as well as others, I'm convinced Brown was onto something totally revolutionary, however, the US military industrial complex ALREADY knew about the new physics. I think they had recovered flying saucer tech since at least 1947. So Brown, while a brilliant man, didn't discover much they didn't already know, and they wanted to keep a lid on it, so they kept a watchful eye and made sure his findings never took off into new research in the public university systems.
I've heard Michael Savage the radio host speak about how ignorant and myopic mainstream science has become.
There really aren't a lot of new ideas or out of the box thinking. These cats are stuck in the 1950s, meanwhile they've got star wars tech in the deep black world. There is a shadow human culture possessing tech most likely derived from alien hardware.
edit on 18-11-2010 by Schaden because: spll



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 01:17 AM
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Project Winterhaven


John Lear's father William Lear, founder of Lear Jets was one of the four contractors that worked with TT Brown on anti gravity research in the 50's for the Department of Defense



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www.thelivingmoon.com...

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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 02:11 PM
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What no Tesla.
That is so bogus.
AC activation of inter atomic matter, that are electrically charged, is the source
of gravity and thus the Tesla ship can levitate and propel itself with normal
power generation, not even free energy is required, due to the great momentum
advantage with electricity.
ED: I think Bill Lyne called Project Winterhaven some kind of CIA plot.
In any case ETs do not fly around in Tesla ships.
No misunderstanding there. ETs are an ongoing CIA Illuminati mind control plot
to stop the Tesla technology solution of Bill Gates Global Warming solution
and take the Gates funding instead of bringing Tesla technology back and
actually solving the folly fuels problem.

edit on 11/19/2010 by TeslaandLyne because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 02:28 PM
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T T Browns work was "allowed" publicity because it is only of minor Scientific interest. The method can only be used in a hybrid ship which utilises jet engines and uses the T T Brown effect to increase efficiency. It can not be used to power a craft by itself as the thrust developed is not even enough to lift the high voltage power supply off the ground. The B2 uses this and possibly also very high velocity missiles also but as said can only be be used as a hybrid system.

The method by which man-made UFOs are propelled is via a torsion field generator and this tec has been around since the late 1930s



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 02:52 PM
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I think the current thought is that power is only half of the problem when it comes to figuring out UFO propulsion. The more electricity you pump into a system, the more it's going to bleed out in EMF and plasma discharges, which kind of limits the stealthiness you also want in an flying vehicle. You can't contain massive amounts of electricity and still have it work for you in an open environment.

But the second major component of UFO propulsion is the hardest to crack, because it involves fields and concepts that are essentially "paranormal," and therefore ignored by mainstream science. Because UFOs move from here to there and appear and disappear without a trace because they are somehow able to merge the consciousness of the pilot with the ship, and create a different "reality," rather than go to a particular place and time by ordinary movement.
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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
What no Tesla.


Well since the project was dated 1953 and Tesla died 7 January 1943, I would say it would have been difficult to include him in the program




I think Bill Lyne called Project Winterhaven some kind of CIA plot.


Will since the CIA stole Tesla's papers, and since as you say Aliens are also a CIA plot..
Just who exactly has all these Tesla ships that are flying around our skies by the thousands?




posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:52 PM
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Originally posted by Blue Shift
Because UFOs move from here to there and appear and disappear without a trace because they are somehow able to merge the consciousness of the pilot with the ship, and create a different "reality," rather than go to a particular place and time by ordinary movement.


Back in the 'old days' we called this magic... mainstream thinkers used to burn people as witches for even thinking like that
Today we just ridicule them, kick them out of universities, discredit them and sometimes they have convenient 'accidents'

The power of the mind to manipulate our environment and create a different 'reality' has long been studied and practiced by esoteric groups. Today there is light at the end of the tunnel because Quantum Physics is finally understanding that though indeed does effect reality.

But all through our history the great sages have told us this... we just didn't listen. Even the great Einstein said it in many ways,,,

"Imagination is more important than knowledge."
and
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one."
Albert Einstein

I also strongly suspect that the huge volume of closed minded people on the planet is in itself enough force to stop us from advancing... when you have 1000 negative thinkers to every 1 positive thinker, there is bound to be an imbalance in nature. Perhaps that is why 'miracles' rarely happen these days


Albert Einstein also said..

"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."
and
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe."



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:56 PM
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Oh BTW on this thought control interface?

No worries... seems the military is on top of it already


The Army's Totally Serious Mind-Control Project


If this sounds insane, it would have been as recently as a few years ago. But improvements in computing power and a better understanding of how the brain works have scientists busy hunting for the distinctive neural fingerprints that flash through a brain when a person is talking to himself. The Army's initial goal is to capture those brain waves with incredibly sophisticated software that then translates the waves into audible radio messages for other troops in the field. "It'd be radio without a microphone, " says Dr. Elmar Schmeisser, the Army neuroscientist overseeing the program. "Because soldiers are already trained to talk in clean, clear and formulaic ways, it would be a very small step to have them think that way." Read more: www.time.com...


www.time.com...

Even FOX news is in on it


Michio Kaku on Fox News about Mind Reading




posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:11 PM
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Nothing is done in the mind control area without Tesla.
And nice try at the official denial of Tesla but those in the know know better.
Those that know can't say so.
Thus you do not know.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 12:20 PM
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If you build a levitating device according to Tesla by way of Bill Lyne you will
get people saying it works based on TT Brown's discovery because TTB is
the 'official' word on electrical levitation.

Tesla can not be recognized.
However Bill does not recognized the TTB system.
The next step is propulsion.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 02:54 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Tesla can not be recognized.
However Bill does not recognized the TTB system.
The next step is propulsion.


So where are Lyne's papers? Sites like this don't usually hold a lot of credibility


lyne4lyne.tripod.com...

And you avoided the question... if its not aliens or plasma critters flying around our skies by the thousands, then who is? The Illuminati? You really think they would have so many craft and we never catch one of em parked?

Hmmmm



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 04:21 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Tesla can not be recognized.
However Bill does not recognized the TTB system.
The next step is propulsion.


So where are Lyne's papers? Sites like this don't usually hold a lot of credibility


lyne4lyne.tripod.com...

And you avoided the question... if its not aliens or plasma critters flying around our skies by the thousands, then who is? The Illuminati? You really think they would have so many craft and we never catch one of em parked?

Hmmmm

So a conspiracy page with some hints.
But Tesla UFO material... not available since 1943.
Where are all the crew and ships.. well taken care of and planned out very well.. also not available.

This happens of course as major Velikovsky theories are copyrighted.. not available on the net.
Dr Fell and Roberta Ballantine might have extensive net sights on their material but
yet again are for the most part copyrighted... not available on the net.

Tesla's material should be in the public domain and the precious UFO, free energy,
free momentum, weather control and mind and body controls would be available to
everyone. As it is the nature of the Tesla wave is avoided and might be the secret
behind all those technologies.

As with the most ground breaking material the UFO makings are not on the internet.
However some places have what Lyne covers of Tesla and even then its better to
talk to the source Lyne himself on one of those yahoo tech groups.

Starting fresh is not a good idea as the Tesla UFO trail has to be started before being
completed. Not necessarily building of UFOs but reached in ones reason that the
Tesla technology is real, works and used since he demonstrated the core in papers
published years ago. People go for ETs and critters right off the bat as if their mind
hit a home run but they are all strikeouts.

Not only in Tesla patents or papers that are still available on the net but in other Tesla writings
on the net in public domain has Tesla's words on his airship like 300 miles per second and
suspension and side propulsion. Did it take only Lyne to figure out a coil provided the
necessary forces. If so then we have been led away from the core of the technology.

Were the FBI that innocent to let the first Tesla author tell too much.
The second biography says Tesla proposed a repelling force.
Tesla was at the forefront of electrical forces and without proof will have to
remain that way. If the Tesla library at Los Alamos is ever opened should we
expect the UFO connection sitting by a large coil.
Well it should be.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 06:30 PM
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Originally posted by TeslaandLyne
Tesla's material should be in the public domain and the precious UFO, free energy,
free momentum, weather control and mind and body controls would be available to
everyone. As it is the nature of the Tesla wave is avoided and might be the secret
behind all those technologies.


I disagree..

Tesla almost destroyed a building with his resonance experiment... had to destroy the machine to stop it. Years ago I had a synthesizer. one of the original Moogs... I hit some notes and the old apartment building I was in at the time began to resonant. It was felt three floors away and it didn't stop till I unplugged the machine (notice it still kept resonating even though the signal had stopped till it was physically unplugged. Rumor has it that the Russian Tesla experiments cause an resonance in the Earth that scared the crap out of the Russians and they too destroyed their test site.

Weather modification in the hands of the people? Really? I don't like someone so I drop a tornado on his house? Ummm no NOT a good idea

Free energy? You that would be cool... but it would wipe out the world economy for decades. You might be able to light up your house for free but you won't be able to buy a house because of no jobs. In time that would sort out, but it would be chaos for many years

And UFO tech in the hands of the public? Sure I would love to take a free trip around the solar system, get some real photos of the Moon and Mars... but look at our freeways now... just imagine everyone buzzing around wherever they wanted to in saucers

I don't agree with the current masters in control but letting the sheeple have it is also a bad idea



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by LilDudeissocool
have been following this mans history and am finding it fascinating but I am wondering why some of his scientific notebooks have been released to the public.

www.rexresearch.com...


The above I think was written in 1955, He seemed to be knee deep in alot of cool subject s. Founded NICAP but then it looks like the CIA took it over. So what happened to the rest of the notebooks? And how many did he produce in his lifetime? And was anything solid ever produced from his ideas?

I have read that he was brilliant, And that he was a "crackpot" So I am wondering which of these he was. Or was he both maybe like some call Tesla?

Some even say TTBrown discovered how aliens power their crafts. Is it possible?

please,why in the world did u start them up on here,now this whole sight is going to be flooded with those...hut people,why did u start them up?
thats why he's cool,lil dude.
The greatest of all debaters ever seen on earth.
a legend on the ats!
lil dude is my hero and Master Jedi of us all.



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 08:29 AM
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Well I always pegged you for one of those controlling people.
We all know about atomic nuclear energy but does that harm the sheeple.
No because the technology has the controllers.
Do I see where all the airliners are kept they might as well be secret craft
because I see more secret high fliers every day.
Why they are going so slow is a mystery.
I would like a little more decorum and open knowledge base for the unwanted
technology but here is the history so far:
Energy Invention Suppression Cases
Carry on with the controlling ways but if Tesla waves are healthy as scanners
and X-Rays are unhealthy you have one less Illuminati control with no side
effect.
We know to boost sales for the scanner companies all that had to be done
is to send out one underwear bomber with hundreds of warnings attached to
him that were easily ignored.

edit on 11/21/2010 by TeslaandLyne because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by Immortalgemini527

Originally posted by LilDudeissocool
have been following this mans history and am finding it fascinating but I am wondering why some of his scientific notebooks have been released to the public.

www.rexresearch.com...


The above I think was written in 1955, He seemed to be knee deep in alot of cool subject s. Founded NICAP but then it looks like the CIA took it over. So what happened to the rest of the notebooks? And how many did he produce in his lifetime? And was anything solid ever produced from his ideas?

I have read that he was brilliant, And that he was a "crackpot" So I am wondering which of these he was. Or was he both maybe like some call Tesla?

Some even say TTBrown discovered how aliens power their crafts. Is it possible?

please,why in the world did u start them up on here,now this whole sight is going to be flooded with those...hut people,why did u start them up?
thats why he's cool,lil dude.
The greatest of all debaters ever seen on earth.
a legend on the ats!
lil dude is my hero and Master Jedi of us all.



Prophet,

I was wondering were you went!


Why did you give me the bad rating on the HC, what the heck did I ever do to you?


I've been lurking around in her for awhile now. Surprised that I didn't see any of your posts before now.

I can't believe your calling padawan Bobe a Master Jedi!


What happened to your account on the HC? Did you burn your bridge with me?


Pladuim



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 09:16 AM
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Some even say TTBrown discovered how aliens power their crafts. Is it possible?


Who said that.

Tesla’s tests confirmed a reaction which was more than the feeble ionic reaction of light gases such as the misinformational 1950’s “patents” of T.Townsend Brown later attempted to induce the gullible public to believe was the correct technology. After his tests, Tesla stated that the ether became a ‘solid state’ medium to “light and heat” (visible and infrared light), and could be accessed by subjecting it to “sufficiently high voltage and frequency”. The ether becomes more apparent when there is a sudden change in the direction of motion, rate of acceleration, or velocity of a body.


The Ether and Ponderable Matter

Don't let people take your free ponderable matter away and say the alien did it without
doing a Three Stooges bit with them.
Or in "Life Stinks", our own lives are getting stanked up by ET talkers, when a nut and sane person slap
each other silly: "Tesla did it" "Aliens did it" ...
ED:


have been following this mans history

You have and is there any indication of CIA funding as obviously he can't do
what Tesla did so why should he even bother to make useless experiments.
ED: well here is more information than you would ever want to know
Are they still pinning down actual ships exists.

edit on 11/21/2010 by TeslaandLyne because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 09:58 AM
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"Nothing is done in the mind control area without Tesla.
And nice try at the official denial of Tesla but those in the know know better.
Those that know can't say so.
Thus you do not know."

Very convenient answer for not having to disclose but does nothing to educate or inform.

IMO

Mikado
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posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 10:23 AM
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Originally posted by Mikado
reply to post by TeslaandLyne
 


"Nothing is done in the mind control area without Tesla.
And nice try at the official denial of Tesla but those in the know know better.
Those that know can't say so.
Thus you do not know."

Very convenient answer for not having to disclose but does nothing to educate or inform.

IMO

Mikado
edit on 21-11-2010 by Mikado because: (no reason given)


How do you approach the Tesla mind control connection.
go for it
See if you find the reason a Tesla ship over head can read minds.
That is if development has taken place.
Do you agree or disagree.
ED: Why is there a connection. Who the heck ever brought up the subject
or connection. Perhaps there is a real connection if some one leaked out
the reason.
edit on 11/21/2010 by TeslaandLyne because: (no reason given)



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