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Originally posted by ItsTheONE1111
Could you list the names of all countries that have banned flouride use in water or dental products? Nice thread btw, S&F
One of the more important facts that jumps out to me is that most of the developed world doesn't fluoridate their water and has no difference in tooth decay compared to countries that do.
Fluoride compounds which are put in water (fluoridation), were never tested for safety before approval.
Dr. Phyllis Mullenix published research showing that fluoride built up in the brains of animals when exposed to moderate levels...
The Department of Health in New Jersey found that bone cancer
Changes Bone Structure and Strength
The weight of scientific evidence does not supply an adequate basis for altering public health policy regarding fluoridation because of bone health concerns. A number of investigations have studied the effects on bone structure of individuals residing in communities with optimal and higher than optimal concentrations of fluoride in the drinking water. These studies have focused on whether there exists a possible link between fluoride and bone fractures. In addition, the role of fluoride in strengthening bone and preventing fractures has been investigated. Lastly, the possible association between fluoride and bone cancer has been studied.
Water Fluoridation Has No Significant Impact on Bone Mineral Density In 1991, a workshop, co-sponsored by the National Institute of Arthritis and Musculoskeletal and Skin Diseases and the National Institute of Dental Research, addressed the potential relationship of hip fracture and bone health in humans to fluoride exposure from drinking water. Meeting at the National Institutes of Health, researchers examined historic and contemporary research on fluoride exposure and bone health. At that time, participants concluded there was no basis for altering current public health policy regarding current guidelines for levels of fluoride in drinking water. Recommendations were made regarding additional research in several areas.116
In 1993, two studies were published demonstrating that exposure to fluoridated water does not contribute to an increased risk for hip fractures. One study looked at the risk of hip fractures in residents of two similar communities in Alberta, Canada.117 In this study, researchers compared a city with fluoridated drinking water optimally adjusted to 1 ppm to a city whose residents drank water containing naturally occurring fluoride at a concentration of only 0.3 ppm. No significant difference was observed in the overall hip fracture hospitalization rates for residents of both cities. "These findings suggest that fluoridation of drinking water has no impact, neither beneficial nor deleterious, on the risk of hip fracture."117
The second study examined the incidence of hip fracture rates before and after water fluoridation in Rochester, Minnesota.118 Researchers compared the hip fracture rates of men and women aged 50 and older from 1950 to 1959 (before the city's water supply was fluoridated in 1960) with the ten-year period after fluoridation. Their findings showed that hip fracture rates had decreased, and that the decrease began before fluoridation was introduced, and then continued. These data demonstrate no increase in the risk of hip fracture associated with fluoridation of the public water supply in Rochester, Minnesota.
Prior to 1993, the lead author of the 1993 Minnesota study had authored two earlier fluoridation-hip fracture studies showing a very slight increase in fracture risk in fluoridated communities.123, 124 The 1990 study examined the regional variation within the United States in the incidence of hip fracture in women aged 65 and over. The analysis of hip fracture incidence data at the county level demonstrated a strong pattern of regional variation among women, with a band of increased risk in the southern United States. The results of the analysis suggested that soft and fluoridated water, poverty, reduced sunlight exposure and rural location all increased the risk of hip fracture. In the summary, the author stated that no presently recognized factor or factors adequately explained the geographic variation.123 The second study, published in 1992, was a national ecologic study of the association between water fluoridation and hip fractures in women and men aged 65 and over. (In ecological studies, groups of people are studied instead of individuals.) The study reported a small positive ecologic association between fluoridation of public water supplies and the incidence of hip fracture among the aged. The authors stated that this observation did not yet provide a firm platform for health policy, but stated further research was warranted.124
In 1997, the lead author of the 1993 Minnesota study and the two studies noted in the preceding paragraph, issued a statement which concluded: "To my knowledge, no study has demonstrated that the introduction of fluoride to the public water supplies has increased the risk of (hip) fracture, let alone a doubling of the risk."125
An ecological study conducted in eastern Germany compared the incidence of hip fractures for adults living in Chemnitz (optimally fluoridated) and Halle (fluoride-deficient). The results suggested the consumption of optimally fluoridated water reduced the incidence of hip fractures in elderly individuals, especially women over 84 years of age.122
According to generally accepted scientific knowledge, the ingestion of optimally fluoridated water does not have an adverse effect on bone health.116-120, 122 Exposure to fluoride at levels considered optimal for the prevention of dental decay appears to have no significant impact on bone mineral density.126
Quite a few studies have shown that fluoridation leads to increases in hip fractures.
Causes Birth Defects and Perinatal Deaths
Causes Initial Stages of Skeletal Fluorosis
A very large and increasing number of children are experiencing dental fluorosis which is a permanent adverse structural change to the teeth.
Inhibits Key Enzymes...
Fluoride is an extremely poisonous substances at exceptionally low doses and has caused a large number of acute poisonings.
Unethical - Fluoridation amounts to forced medication of the water supply
Banned in Many Countries
Their tactics didn't work in the vast majority of Europe.
Salt fluoridation was introduced iin Switzerland in 1955 and it is now estimated that fluoridated salt is available to nearly 200 million people worldwide, including Europe, Central and South America and the Caribbean.
It is the preferred method of fluoridation on mainland Europe and is widely available in France, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Belgium, Spain, Czech Republic and Slovakia.
Tested for safety? They manufacture it, I'd imagine they know what's in it. Regardless, have a source for the claim?
Moderate levels? The rats in the study (Again, I'd like a link) were given 75 to 125 PPM of fluoride, that's not "moderate", and was "debunked" many years ago. (It's rather old, Gary M. Whitford The metabolism and toxicology of fluoride")
Establishing a threshold dose for effects on the CNS, in rats or humans, was not the intent of this initial investigation. Yet, one fact relevant to human exposure emerged quite clear. When rats consumed 75-125 ppm and humans 5-10 ppm fluoride in their respective drinking waters, the result was equivalent ranges of plasma fluoride levels. This range is observed with some treatments for osteoporosis, and it is exceeded ten times over, one hour after children receive topical applications of some dental fluoride gels. Thus, humans are being exposed to levels of fluoride we know alters behavior in rats.
The National Cancer Institute does not agree with this claim, nor does any reputable source that you would think want to help eliminate cancer.
More than 60 years after fluoride was first added to drinking water in some parts of the United States, there is still controversy about the possible health effects of drinking water fluoridation.
Some of the controversy concerning the possible link stems from a study of lab animals reported by the US National Toxicology Program in 1990. The researchers found "equivocal" (uncertain) evidence of cancer-causing potential of fluoridated drinking water in male rats.
While they noted that the studies "have shown no consistent tendency for people living in areas with high concentrations of fluoride in the water to have higher cancer rates than those living in areas with low concentrations," they also noted that the evidence was inadequate to draw conclusions one way or the other.
Health Effects of Ingested Fluoride" in 1993. Its conclusion was that "the available laboratory data are insufficient to demonstrate a carcinogenic effect of fluoride in animals." They also concluded that "the weight of the evidence from the epidemiological [population-based] studies completed to date does not support the hypothesis of an association between fluoride exposure and increased cancer risk in humans." The report recommended that additional well-designed studies be done to look at the possible link to cancers, especially osteosarcomas.
The general consensus among the reviews done to date is that there is no strong evidence of a link between water fluoridation and cancer. However, these reviews were all done before the partial results of the Harvard study were published in 2006. Several of the reviews noted that further studies, including the full results of the Harvard study, are needed to clarify the possible link.
Can't find the study on their site
- Fluoride promotes the "healing" of cavities
- Fluoride increases the resistance of the teeth to acid demineralization
- Fluoride interferes with the function of the germs in plaque
- Fluoride speeds up the formation of the internal structure of the adult teeth after they have begun to erupt.
- Fluoride given to children affects the shape of the teeth themselves.
What's a "low dose", how is it "extremely poisonous" when being added at proper levels in water and what are these "acute poisonings" and how did they happen? Are people eating tooth paste or is a child consuming way too many fluoride tablets etc.
I think it's more of a "if it's been demonstrated to work and is not harmful in proper application, why would you NOT use it?" type question myself.
Banned in Many Countries. Source?
Residents in Waterloo, Ontario have voted to stop adding fluoride to water supplies.
The decision, which was announced on Tuesday, has been welcomed by anti-fluoride campaigners; however, the news has shocked dentists and the incoming head of the Ontario Dental Association has condemned the decision. Dr Harry Hoediono has criticised the decision, saying that people are unaware of the dental health benefits of fluoride and are voting to stop fluoridation based on flimsy evidence they have downloaded from the internet. Dr Hoediono said that it was a shame that such an important decision could be made by a small group of people who perhaps do not have the necessary knowledge to make an informed decision.
Campaigners against fluoride believe that adding fluoride to the water supply is tantamount to poisoning and are lobbying for fluoridation to be stopped all over Canada. Opponents of fluoride claim the chemical is illegal, unnecessary and dangerous; campaigners believe fluoride contributes to health conditions, including increased risk of cancer, thyroid disease and arthritis.
The Hidden Agenda... The Fluoride Deception
Learn about the Hidden Agenda behind the use of Fluoride, who's behind it and the real purpose behind its use. Absolutely shocking information! ~ Documentary
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