A Revolution

Since this is my first thread on ATS outside the Introductions forum, I apologize if it is in the wrong topic (Mods feel free to move). Also I will keep it short and leave it open for discussion mostly.

Ever since coming to ATS i have come across many many thought and ideas and the one that always stuck out in my mind was the thought of a Revolution against numerous entities if not all of them at one time. I.E. Big Oil, Governments etc.

The problem I am coming across though is how would you in your personal opinion start a Revolution.

There is a time for heroes and there is a time for revolutionaries. Lets hear some of your thoughts on it.

Myself I don't know what i would to to start a revolution besides lots of protesting and the such but the targets may or may not be away without a following.

Again just thoughts is all and would like to hear some of the ATS members thoughts on it as well.

An armed revolution won't happen until people know there are lots of other people standing behind them. Such a day draws closer I believe.

How about just leave the country for another? It's more easier, no?

The problem with the U.S. is it is full of liars and protectors of cowards. This isn't a land worthy to defend, it is trash.

Go to Canada or Brazil. Get strarted on learning any language you'll need or know the english speaking area. Or get you a paid translator to walk with and do transations with. It's more than one way to live in another country long as there are living translators. Don't act like the president only got a staff of translators.

Heres a link. www.youtube.com...
eric cantona says you start with the banks, which is fundamentally correct in my opinion.

Do we think if every person went and withdrew their money that the banks would have it?
why do we think if your withdrawing a large amount you have to go to the bank and sometimes it takes a day or two to come through.
They dont have our bloody money, what they have is numbers on a screen dictating our lives, no?

revolution is now.
P.s do you know if its true that the french are really going to try withdrawing on december 7th this year?

There are two ways I see a revolution taking place in this country. The first and less likely of the two is a scenario where a person or group of people come forward with a new idea for forming government. This idea is so good that it garners a large portion of the populations support and is spread virally through social media and other electronic means. The populace of the country in support of this new idea overwhelms the current bureaucracy and implements the new government.

The second way I see a revolution happens is much simpler. I see a revolution happening by default through the collapse of the current system. The United States currently sits on the precipice of social, economic and political collapse. A collapse in any one of these arenas would bring the whole system crashing down. If this much more likely scenario does play out... we better have a good idea for a new system to replace the old one with or we will end up in a dictatorship.

This is why I like some of the ideas behind the Venus Project and the Zeitgeist Movement. I really think a resource based economy is the only thing that makes sense for the future. I also like an idea that I had heard on NPR not too long ago about electing our congressmen and senators through a draft instead of elections to eliminate fraud, monetary advantage and those people seeking office solely for personal gain.

Present an irrefutable reality that these entities don't want to accept/hear and wait for them to start throwing punches.

The problem today is that the internet has casterated us as rallying force to generate the emotional group energy to do something about anything. We can bitch and whine and get pissed off on line .. but as soon as we step away from our computer we find ourselves in our room alone and all that group energy and motivation is gone. There is much to say for the actual gathering of real people as apposed to the virtual mob.

Great thoughts everyone and i agree with alot of them. The banks do seem like a great place to start (no means no motivation)

And I am not talking only here in the US. what about a Worldwide revolution. The US is corrupt we all know this but so are other countries just from what i have read here.

My opinion on the worldwide thing is that if you imagine the world governments as a tree and to take that tree down you need to start small and go bit by bit. but again to get to this point of bit by bit is going to take alot of time and patience. IMO and mind you this entire thread is opinions the US would be a perfect place to start...but again...HOW?

Maybe if we turned the NWO idea on it's head and started a people founded world government. Got a good working group going on working up a human constitution that would be meant to some day govern the planet. We could supersede all the governments of world with our new world government. Once the constitution was created by the people it would need to be ratified by the people of joining countries. As the people of newly joining countries ratified the constitution their existing governments would be asked to step aside.

Hello my friend,

How do you start the revolution?

I started with myself. First the change yourself to NOT accept things as they current are. Be willing to sacrifice.

Check out the plan at the bottom of my posts for more info.

With Love,

Your Brother

reply to post by eastbosbud


I agree to a large extent. The internet is the best place to start intellectually, but the WORST place to start socially.

Wouldn't it be rather anti-climactic if you announced a protest to the world before it took place?

If you stage the protest even with only 2 or 3 friends and stand out front waving those signs for 8 hours one day, you will get the wheels turning, and maybe some REAL people will show up and stand by you. That is how to rally trustworthy supporters.

But it all starts with discourse between you and your most trustworthy.

Originally posted by wisintel
Maybe if we turned the NWO idea on it's head and started a people founded world government. Got a good working group going on working up a human constitution that would be meant to some day govern the planet. We could supersede all the governments of world with our new world government. Once the constitution was created by the people it would need to be ratified by the people of joining countries. As the people of newly joining countries ratified the constitution their existing governments would be asked to step aside.

Great idea...problem i see with it though what would be the single most deciding factor of that human constitution? what is the one thing above all else we as humans desire? Equality? Survival?

Originally posted by eastbosbud
The problem today is that the internet has casterated us as rallying force to generate the emotional group energy to do something about anything. We can bitch and whine and get pissed off on line .. but as soon as we step away from our computer we find ourselves in our room alone and all that group energy and motivation is gone. There is much to say for the actual gathering of real people as apposed to the virtual mob.

Agreed and kudos to you for hitting the nail on the head. We have all allowed ourselves to be lulled into a state of complacency by our 'ability to express ourselves to ALL online'. Guess what people? Actions, just like the old-days, still speak louder than words. Especially when the media, big business, and the government (all ONE entity really) have the ability to censor, discredit, and flat-out ignore all of our pathetic online cries for help.

The only thing that will get their attention is when members of the 'ruling class' start showing up with two-in-the-cap. People are only disgruntled now; wait until they actually start waking up, get mad, and FINALLY decide to take matters into their own hands. But before that can happen, the rest of rights will be stripped away, including both the first and second amendments to the constitution.

The sad reality is that the US government is out of control, and we STILL won't pull them out of the drivers seat, or at least shoot out the tires.

reply to post by AbandonFaieth


Look up the definition of "constitution". It is synonymous with health. It is also the highest law to which U.S. individuals subscribe to, consciously or otherwise... and it has been under attack a long time from with-in and without. Many don't see how, don't care why, don't WANT to care about their health. I hope the day never comes where we all have to regret our submissiveness to forces we thought were looking out for us all along.

There's really no-one who wants to educate people in matters of fundamental importance unless they do so from a noble purpose or a honest concern. Money shouldn't even enter the discussion.

i think wisintels second theory is the one. it will happen after our currentways collapse. to start one on your own you would need ppl in high places with you. i cant see high ranking ppl joining in when they will have too much to lose. (their money and power that is). no one would throw that away no matter how serious or likely the revolution is to succeed. why when your already wealth and on top of the corrupt system would you try to change it.

Originally posted by originunknown
i think wisintels second theory is the one. it will happen after our currentways collapse. to start one on your own you would need ppl in high places with you. i cant see high ranking ppl joining in when they will have too much to lose. (their money and power that is). no one would throw that away no matter how serious or likely the revolution is to succeed. why when your already wealth and on top of the corrupt system would you try to change it.

Maybe the same reason that our founding fathers did it?

Just a wild guess.

some people say that resource based economies are not the answer and that money is not the problem... but some people have nothing BUT money. I mean they have nothing to offer and are just rich and live an extravagant life and never give back.

i don't know much about how successful a resource based economy would be but it would be nice to see the rug pulled from beneath the greedy who serve no other purpose but themselves. I can't stand people who think they are important simply because they have what they have. To think they feel their lives are to preserved as they are because of some illusion of importance... grrr! I wish they could reconsider what value is.

what about the possible theory of a revolution by equality...meaning make TPTB equal to say people like myself or even Joe at the local corner store in terms of finances...divy up the resources EQUALLY amongst everyone?? granted TPTB would not go for that ever but hey this is a thread based on debate and ideas...some of which at least to me have brought many ideas to me and what i might have possibly even contimplated starting

I am seeing all this "take your money out of the bank" stuff and wonder if thats the best way to start a revolution?

IMO not great but not bad either and maybe it might show the general population what needs to happen?

Originally posted by XsameXoneXotherX
How about just leave the country for another? It's more easier, no?

The problem with the U.S. is it is full of liars and protectors of cowards. This isn't a land worthy to defend, it is trash.

Go to Canada or Brazil. Get strarted on learning any language you'll need or know the english speaking area. Or get you a paid translator to walk with and do transations with. It's more than one way to live in another country long as there are living translators. Don't act like the president only got a staff of translators.

I totally disagree with you. Either you are too young to know what a great country this once was, you are not an American, or you are a socialist. This country is not trash and is worth defending with my life. It is the people running the country that is trash and what comes from your mouth.

A revolution is coming I believe and it won't be too much longer. The key right now is to be prepared for it.