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Are you prepared for the Oil crash and the end of our current way of life?

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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:38 AM
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Peak oil is a myth. Look it up. So is overpopulation, and a shortage of food. Even if peak oil was a reality, by the time crude and the oil from shale, coal and other sources actually does get very scarce, we will have developed substitutes.

Look up thorium reactors on google and youtube.
Look up hydrogen fuel cells.
Look up cold fusion.


The system under which commerce functions in this realm places a bargaining advantage on those who would possess or control the availability of a product that is in wide demand. Gasoline, plastics, fertilizers, and many other products derived from crude oil are priced arbitrarily, the price of a gallon of gasoline is not neccessarily related to it's cost of production and distribution. We have seen evidence of this by the way gas prices have been and still are manipulated by the big oil corporations.

Control the availability of a widely popular commodity, and the most advantageous utilization of that position, is to give the public the impression that the product is difficult to get to, difficult to move, difficult to refine, or there is not much of it left, so it is therefore a rarity. All of those factors, true or false, serve the producer in creating an impression that his product requires extraordinary efforts, training, intelligence, experience, to be delivered to the customer.

If you knew that vast reserves of oil had long ago been located, and that refineries were not being built intentionally, so that surplusses could not occur, so as to give the ILLUSION that the producers are scrambling to keep the supply up with the public demand, so as to be able to set prices at "what the market will bear", meaning what those who desire it will pay for it...if you knew all of that, if you knew that you could buy gasoline for about $1.30 a gallon and the oil companies and gas stations would still profit handsomely, instead of disgustingly, would you still pay $3.20 per gallon???

I don't think you would...I wouldn't.

But maybe you see how dangerous it is to allow corporations to operate without regulatory oversight. I think if you look at this country since Reagan and the mass deregulation era, you will see how the corporate base consolidated its control over so many products that used to be readily available, grown, built, and manufactured in farms and factories right here in the USA, but are now produced by the cheap labor of third world countries for pennies on the dollar compared to the cost of production in the US. So they send the manufacturing jobs overseas, neglect to replace those jobs with anything adequate, so as to render a segment of the workforce, out of the workforce, then they ship the cheaper goods now being produced overseas, back over here to sell to the unemployed...

How long before cheap crappy contaminated products stamped Made In The USA are filling the shelves of the Chinese Walmarts?

Kill the Banks and the Corporations! End Admiralty! End the Fed and DEMAND that Congress end the State of Emergency, (Bankruptcy) that this nation has been operating under since June 5, 1933!
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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:38 AM
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So true. Hemp would fix a lot of problems. Hemp is one of the only plants I am aware of that when turned into protein, contains almost all of the Amino acids (usually only obtainable through meat). This means if you used Hemp as a replacement for corn, most of the processed food would be healthy, it wouldn't deplete the soil, and it would be a lot cheaper.

Hemp would destroy our current economy because modern life would be so cheap if we used hemp. Why do you think such a benign plant is so opposed by the powers of the world. It's only legal in a few countries. It's just a plant. Hemp frees the regular person from the horrible profit grabbing of everyday life.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:41 AM
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It is apparent that you buy the dinosaur spiel handed out in schools and by the media and of course the oil companies?

An old man said we'll run out of clean water before we stop using oil. The way they're sloshing the stuff around these days, I don't doubt it. Personally I believe oil is abiotic. This in no way precludes us using more than the planet can 'make', of course. I also find these doom n gloom threads to be suboptimal. If you are going to get tore up about something then make sure it matters. I can't jump up and down because everyone won't be using 20 gallons of gas each day, in the future. So what? Oil shouldn't be burned, in my estimation. It is too valuable as a lubricant and for manufacturing. Tptb are simply having fun with their little dance here on earth.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:42 AM
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SO WHERE DO YOU GET LIFE 5 MILES DOWN?


Reported in ScienceDaily, researchers at the Royal Institute of Technology (KTH) in Stockholm have managed to prove that fossils from animals and plants are not necessary for crude oil and natural gas to be generated. The findings are revolutionary since this means, on the one hand, that it will be much easier to find these sources of energy and, on the other hand, that they can be found all over the globe.

"Using our research we can even say where oil could be found in Sweden," says Vladimir Kutcherov, a professor at the Division of Energy Technology at KTH.

Together with two research colleagues, Vladimir Kutcherov has simulated the process involving pressure and heat that occurs naturally in the inner layers of the earth, the process that generates hydrocarbon, the primary component in oil and natural gas.
According to Vladimir Kutcherov, the findings are a clear indication that the oil supply is not about to end, which researchers and experts in the field have long feared.


heck where are you getting your INFO? al gore?
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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:44 AM
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Hydroponics.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:45 AM
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$10-$15 a Gallon. In the UK petrol is about £1.22 a litre. In the current exchange rate that makes it over $8 a gallon here at the moment and it was much higher last year.

Guess what we are still here, there is no looting, starvation or anarchy. We adapted by buying more fuel efficient cars and building more economic power stations that run on things other than oil.

It's a pain but not as bad as you think.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:46 AM
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Me too! I hope Washington continues to be...the evergreen state.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:52 AM
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It is apparent that you buy the dinosaur spiel handed out in schools and by the media and of course the oil companies?



Typically ignorant nonsense.

Fossil fuels are mostly made up of prehistoric fossilised plants, fossilised sea plankton and some fossilised animal remains too.

Please, learn something about the topic before you add to the discussion.
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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:52 AM
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yeh, hemp fuel
"man there is a hole in your muffler...."
"yeah mon, I'm the catalytic converter."
the same cartels the run oil run the dope too
thats why afghanistan is about pipelines and opium.

start em out cheap till they are hooked, and then create the scarcity, and then drive up the price.
its the same idea: scarcity and illegality make the price go up
they know the average westerner has the science education of a 12 year oold.

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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:56 AM
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How much oil there is, and where is it, has always been a highly contested thing. My great grandfather discovered the first oil in Oklahoma in the early 1900's. He was a salesman for the Brown Shoe Company (Buster Brown Lived in a Shoe ..). He was the craziest man in OK. Everyone, but him, knew there was no oil in Oklahoma.

Then he struck it big, the Siminole Oil Fields.

I was on the Board of Directors of two oil companies for about 20 years, and found out what a black art finding oil is -- largely a guessing game. You find oil, drill near by, you might find it there too.

My guess is, oil is a self replenishing resource. Don't believe all that folk lore about tiny animals decaying into oil. But like most things in the Future, can't be sure. The future is a place that no living person has been.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 03:56 AM
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Yes; NXT.....



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 04:02 AM
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That's an interesting story. He was 'crazy' but filthy rich I'd imagine.


I agree, the oil reserve figures are flaky to say the least. Some underestimate the reserves, some vastly overestimate them, just depends on who's report you read.

For now I don't agree with you on the abiotic oil theory, I just don't see enough evidence of it. Wishful thinking in my view, but one can hope, I'd be as delighted as anyone to find that oil was renewable.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 04:04 AM
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There is no peak oil!!!! My understanding is that the core of the earth with its extreme heat and pressure constantly produces oil and it will never end.Peak oil is a form of fearmongering amongst people of the world.Oil is a commodity and is traded on the stock market, thats why it's price is constantly fluctuationg.I don't buy the peak oil nonsense period.Just like the other tool a few weeks ago that said something big is going to happen when president Obama made the trip to India.Enough with all these horrible speculations.None have come true so and all the fear mongerers go get a new hobby.Did a false flag occur, not at all.Nothing happened so stop with all these speculations, thats all they are.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 04:07 AM
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Originally posted by Pervius
Henry Ford made his own fuel for his first vehicles with potatoes. The plastic he used was made from beans.



The only problem with using plant matter for making oil is that farmers that traditionallly grow food crops switch to fuel crops, as is happening now with the production of ethanol.
This is already causing food shortages and pushing the price of food up worldwide.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 04:10 AM
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"Peak oil" is not about that we wouldn't be able to survive without oil. What it's really about is that civilized world is addicted to oil. People rely on cheap transportation, cheap energy, cheap food and cheap goods. What happens if oil price starts to grow rapidly, in time when the biggest part of us are still addicted to it? Still driving oil powered cars, still going to supermarkets where the most goods have been traveling long distances on oil powered vehicles, still getting electricity from natural gas or oil powered power stations, still heating houses with natural gas. Imagine that you can't afford to buy gas for your car, you can't afford to pay for electricity, you can't afford to pay for heating, that aside you can't afford to buy anything in supermarket. So you are freezing and hungry and you can't go away fast to warmer place or a food source in your car.

This is a worst case scenario for middle class and lower class people in civilized world, especially those who live in cities. Better safe than sorry - no one wants for this to happen but what if...?



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 04:10 AM
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Rather than waste the oil rigs out 'the bay', retool/retrofit them to build underwater cities, conduct deepwater research, oceaneering, tunnels connecting underground residences, workspaces and utilities, utilize the multiple free energy technologies 'currently' in use in the worlds oceansphere.

Retool and Retrofit the Roth and Rock out of the auto industry and retool and refit it to produce an effective train system and alternative energy sources.

Actually, come to think of it, Trump would be good at redirecting our infrastructure to more eco-friendly, user friendly and 'cost effective' strategies. I don't know Trump personally though my sister does. Maybe she'll read this, maybe she won't. Carrying on.....as a burden of the Hand.
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posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 04:11 AM
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Please, don't compare this to those useless 'prediction' threads. So far, overwhelming evidence points to Oil being a non-renewable resource. This means, eventually it is going to run out. Be that soon or further down the road, it's impossible to say. That's not fearmongering, it's truth. I realise some people don't want to hear it, but please refrain from personal insults.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 04:12 AM
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Maybe but in Europe we are still paying farmers to destroy crops and tip milk down the drain as there is a massive oversupply of food. Bio-fuels are only part of the solution for the future, but if managed better they could be an important contribution.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 04:12 AM
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Originally posted by mashedpotatoes
There is no peak oil!!!! My understanding is that the core of the earth with its extreme heat and pressure constantly produces oil and it will never end.Peak oil is a form of fearmongering amongst people of the world.Oil is a commodity and is traded on the stock market, thats why it's price is constantly fluctuationg.I don't buy the peak oil nonsense period.Just like the other tool a few weeks ago that said something big is going to happen when president Obama made the trip to India.Enough with all these horrible speculations.None have come true so and all the fear mongerers go get a new hobby.Did a false flag occur, not at all.Nothing happened so stop with all these speculations, thats all they are.


With your state of mind, why are you here? We are all crazys, trying to figure out "horrible speculations". Some have come true. The earth is round, USSR is no longer, we don't have to ride in horse pulled vehicles, etc.

Oil is not sold on the stock market; it is sold on the oil market. The stock market is for selling stocks.



posted on Nov, 19 2010 @ 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by Project-Sign
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Please, don't compare this to those useless 'prediction' threads. So far, overwhelming evidence points to Oil being a non-renewable resource. This means, eventually it is going to run out. Be that soon or further down the road, it's impossible to say. That's not fearmongering, it's truth. I realise some people don't want to hear it, but please refrain from personal insults.


I am not aware of the "overwhelming evidence points to Oil being a non-renewable resource". If it is produced deep in the Earth, how would you get "evidence". I am aware of oil fields which were thought to be "out of oil", mysteriously coming alive.






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