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Luke 17: 20 -21
Now when he was asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of GOD will come, He answered them and said, "The Kingdom of GOD does not come with observation; nor will they say, 'See here!' or 'See there!' For indeed, the kingdom of GOD is within you"
Then the devil took him up into the holy city, set Him on the pinnacle of the temple, sand said to Him, “If you are the Son of God, throw your self down For it is written:
‘He shall give his angles charge over you’ and, ‘In their hands they shall bear you up Lest you dash your foot against a stone.’
Jesus said to him, “It is written again, ‘You shall not tempt the Lord your God’
Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God, and Him only you shall serve.”
But that you may know that the Son of Man has the power on earth to forgive sin
That you may be sons of your father in Heaven; for he makes his sun rise on the evil and sends rain on the unjust.
Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God
Do not call anyone on earth your father; for one is your father, he who is in heaven. And do not be called teachers; for one is your teacher, the Christ.
He went a little farther and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, “oh my Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me; nevertheless, not as I will, but as you will”
He who receives you receives me, and he who receives me receives the one who sent me. Anyone who receives a prophet because he is a prophet will receive a prophet's reward, and anyone who receives a righteous man because he is a righteous man will receive a righteous man's reward.
So Jesus said to him, Why do you call me good? No one is good but One, that is God.
- John 8:28
Then Jesus said to them, when you lift up the son of man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My father taught Me, I speak these things.
And the father himself, who sent me, has testified of Me. You have neither heard his voice at any time, no seen his form.
not everyone who says to me, Lord Shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of my Father in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, lord, lord have we not prophesied in your name, cast out demons in your name, and done many wonders in Your name? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness
For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of him who sent me
Jesus answered them and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his who sent me
Most assuredly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who was sent greater than he who sent him. If you know theses things, blesses are you if you do them
so they were offended at him. But Jesus said to them, A prophet is not without honor except in his own country and in his own house
- John 14:28
You have heard me say to you, I am going away and coming back to you If you loved Me, you would rejoice because I said, I am going to the Father, For My Father is Greater than I
They are not born that way, just as murderers are not born that way. However, these spirits can be transmitted to children,
I am not going to get into this debate, but as far as the "bad" things mentiones above, those were pre Jesus.
Originally posted by marg6043
Any way when it comes to Christian religious indoctriantion has taught believers that what makes you a good person is what you believe, not what you do. "Get right wiht God" and everything else falls into place, is the fundametalist view. In this black and white world, the good are christians who will go to haven, the bad are hell-bound unbelievers.
And about sexuality, well the catholic church have more than his share of homosexuality and even with all the abuse done in the church they still push the homosexuals are siners, what a joke.