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Originally posted by TheApachekid
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13
When I was in "The Box", They had Sogs and OGAs in and around these archeological sites. They were "specially"
prepared and protected far more than they should have been.
You are looking in the wright direction, there are many different levels to this war, but if you remember Saddam wanted to rebuild Babylon "to commune with God".
Originally posted by rajaten
reply to post by Crutchley29
The human eye can only see things within the visible spectrum. For example, when you use your wifi connection, do you see zeros and ones flying through the air to your computer? The nature of a brown dwarf, specifically the returning planet x, does not allow for the average joe to see it. Although its mass has effected much in our solar system already including earth. One only needs to do a little research to figure out things are not right.edit on 18-11-2010 by rajaten because: ok
A reliable Spanish Astromomy group has spotted it....
Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Fior those that missed the original thread, I guess you also missed the all the contradictions of the article, so let me summerise.
1. The starviwer team are not astronomers, they are a bunch of people on a website that requires users to pay to use the site properly, and the site is not a trusted media outlet
2. Despite the millions of amatuer and non government observatories and telescopes around the world (not involved with NASA), only one claims to have spotted this
3. The article claims the object is the same distance from the sun as it is to earth. If this were true people would be able to see it from the ground.
4. Brown dwarfs can only be detected by infra red telescopes due to the surface of them not reflecting light in the normal spectrum
5. The brown dwarf images are of a supernova, all you have to do is google supernova and you will see thousands of similar images to the one used in the article ...
as for my thoughts on an incoming star/plantary system I'm afraid I sit in the skepticism camp.
Astronomers claim to have discovered the first planet originating from outside our galaxy. The Jupiter-like planet, they say, is part of a solar system which once belonged to a dwarf galaxy. This dwarf galaxy was in turn devoured by our own galaxy, the Milky Way, according to a team writing in the academic journal Science. The star, called HIP 13044, is nearing the end of its life and is 2000 light years from Earth. The discovery was made using a telescope in Chile.
Cosmic cannibalism..
Why do scientists think something could be hidden beyond the edge of our solar system? Originally, Nemesis was suggested as a way to explain a cycle of mass extinctions on Earth. The paleontologists David Raup and Jack Sepkoski claim that, over the last 250 million years, life on Earth has faced extinction in a 26-million-year cycle. Astronomers proposed comet impacts as a possible cause for these catastrophes. Our solar system is surrounded by a vast collection of icy bodies called the Oort Cloud. If our Sun were part of a binary system in which two gravitationally-bound stars orbit a common center of mass, this interaction could disturb the Oort Cloud on a periodic basis, sending comets whizzing towards us.
Originally posted by WireFoXX
reply to post by DJW001
Because everything in the universe is that easy to understand. Who's to say that we could see it? It is supposed to be as close as Neptune in 2011. Last time I looked at the sky I didn't see Neptune staring me down...
So is it Possible that A High Advance RACE Would be Able to Make a Rocky Planet Comet Natural Satellite into a mobile spaceship! Could some of the Moons in Our Solar System are Actually Mother Ships
"Mergers and interactions between galaxies are an essential part of their dynamical evolution," said John Dubinksi, an astronomy professor at University of Toronto who has modeled the eventual clash between the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies. "The elliptical galaxies which represent around 10 percent of the galaxy population are most likely the product of a merger of two or more galaxies of nearly equal mass."
Originally posted by badw0lf
Originally posted by WireFoXX
reply to post by rajaten
I agree, scientist know it's there... but could you imagine the ramifications of telling the public, "Oh by the way, a giant planet is heading toward Earth. 1/3 of you could be wiped out within a year due to flooding, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions." I don't think it is going to be the end of the world, per say. But, I do feel like it is going to be a terrible natural disaster. Look at what has been going on recently. Climate change, terrible flooding and earthquakes. All of which have been worse that ever.edit on 18-11-2010 by WireFoXX because: (no reason given)
I see.. So this planet that is invisible, is somehow going to wipe out 1/3 of the population. But it's a secret because people would panic.
Just like the wireless internet connection is not breaking down my walls as it travels between my router and my laptop, I very much doubt this invisible planet is going to do anything.
Or do I have the basics all wrong. Seems people who know all about it, don't want to let on a great deal...
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Wolfenz
Sorry but....how did you read that BBC article (which isn't the only source for this story, BTW) and then turn it into this?:
So is it Possible that A High Advance RACE Would be Able to Make a Rocky Planet Comet Natural Satellite into a mobile spaceship! Could some of the Moons in Our Solar System are Actually Mother Ships
??
Read the article again, please. Note the details.
Also understand this fact: LONG, long before humans were even close to evolving, the Galaxy has interacted with other galaxies. THAT is the source of that planet (AND its star) in the news. From an ancient merger of OUR Galaxy with another, smaller one. There are several other much smaller galaxies near by, in terms of overall Universal distance scales.
The most obvious, but still some distance away, is Andromeda. AND, our Galaxy and Andromeda will merge, someday. About 4 Billion years or so....our Sun may still be "alive", though it will be old (like this on e that was discovered recently) and our Sun will by then be a Red Giant.
Galaxies evolve by merging quite often:
"Mergers and interactions between galaxies are an essential part of their dynamical evolution," said John Dubinksi, an astronomy professor at University of Toronto who has modeled the eventual clash between the Milky Way and Andromeda galaxies. "The elliptical galaxies which represent around 10 percent of the galaxy population are most likely the product of a merger of two or more galaxies of nearly equal mass."
www.space.com...
There is a great, big wonderful Universe of learning out there...and this "nibiru" isn't included. It is a fake, hoax, a fantasy.
Another fantasy is the one about our moon being a "spaceship". Silly. Also, many flybys have determined that Phobos and Diemos, of Mars, are NOT "hollow artificial constructs" either. Only places that will be saying that are fringe websites, written by people who have no clue what they're talking about.....
Premise The underlying story line of Space: 1999 centres on the plight of the inhabitants of Moonbase Alpha, Earth's Space Research Centre on the Moon, following a scientific cataclysm. Mankind had been storing its nuclear waste in vast disposal sites on the far side of the Moon. The accumulated waste reaches critical mass and, on 13 September 1999, detonates in a massive thermonuclear explosion initiated by a build-up of an unknown form of magnetic radiation. The force of the blast hurls the Moon out of Earth orbit and into deep space at colossal speed, stranding the 311 personnel stationed on Alpha. The runaway Moon, in effect, becomes the 'spacecraft' on which the protagonists travel, searching for a new home. During their interstellar journey, the Alphans encounter a vast array of alien civilisations, dystopian societies, and mind-bending phenomena previously unseen by the eyes of mankind.
Hopefully a Talking Parrot (Astronaut) will Spill the beans for the Reasons why those 3 Missions 18 19 20 where canceled and what about a FlyBY!!!! Orbital of the Moon from a Space Shuttle and why it has never happened! Yet.. can someone Please tell me WHY!
Originally posted by Somehumanbeing
reply to post by Misterlondon
It's just a load of crap like 2012. Uh-oh the mayan calendar ends on 2012, that means we are all gonna die!
Uh-oh, my calendar ends on december 31st 2010! THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END..
My apologies for my sarcasm, it's dwindled to that over-time after reading the other stuff that gets posted over the time. Good question by the way.
What exactly does this have todo with Nibiru????
Originally posted by Perseus Apex
Never met a human being that had sex and didn't like it though there's always the mistake here and there.
Oddly enough, I've met a few virgins of the 30-60 range. I suppose they have their reasons.
Much porn is free for a reason though not a good one.
It is the best and easiest way to compromise one with that intelligence.
The industry should be audited and if they are to be shown in the US, they should at least be registered here, practiced here or at least be in a jurisdiction of which has lawful, not 'legal' jurisprudence unto it's audience. The Law knows no bounds. If it hurts another, it's wrong, if not, leave it be. Child porn, wrong.....as in too young to know better than to trust an 'adult'. This makes Sense because it's of it.
If someone was to use the device on their partner, they should hope that their assumptions should not lead to the End of the relationship the 'information' was designed to protect. Privacy is just that, private for a reason.
The internet has the worst of the worst of porn for reasons of censure as the tyrants that be would rather create that problem, so you may react, then ask or rather demand a solution they've carefully crafted long prior. Well, human nature has it that folks are horny creatures by design and some appreciate creativity of it all though the 'limits' should be found in the conscience Of truth. Sadistic pornography likely encourages, promotes, plants the seed of the garden of Heden.
If something, anything doesn't make sense, it wasn't designed to.
Most are as boiled frogs, overdone with reality before they got started.
I'm all for love and relations, as long as it is from the heart with mutual gratification as to intent.
edit on 19-11-2010 by Perseus Apex because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Wolfenz
Hopefully a Talking Parrot (Astronaut) will Spill the beans for the Reasons why those 3 Missions 18 19 20 where canceled and what about a FlyBY!!!! Orbital of the Moon from a Space Shuttle and why it has never happened! Yet.. can someone Please tell me WHY!
Since this is the only part of your post I can make any sense of, I will tell you why a Space Shuttle has never orbited the Moon. Its maximum orbital altitude is 960 kilometers (600 miles). The Moon is 400,000 kilometers away.