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Originally posted by Khayal
reply to post by WireFoXX
I don't believe the Nibiru myth came from the Mayans. Their calendar simply switches to a new cycle in 2012 and people have taken that to mean the end of the world. It's called jumping the gun.
The idea of Nibiru came from ZetaTalk: en.wikipedia.org...
Also - off by 0.1 of what? That's pretty ambiguous.edit on 18-11-2010 by Khayal because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Khayal
reply to post by rajaten
I don't know if there is one or isn't, I just said it isn't impossible - if there were a nearby star (probably a brown or red dwarf) we probably have already detected but we do not yet realise how close it is yet as the distance between it and ourselves may not have been calculated as of this time.
See en.wikipedia.org...edit on 18-11-2010 by Khayal because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
It is FIRST important to understand the reason for Nibiru before discrediting its existance. Its not a 3d realm craft. So trying to locate it with non spiritual eyes is somewhat hard to do but not impossible. Its like a Star ship more then a Mother ship.
Originally posted by WireFoXX
reply to post by DJW001
Because everything in the universe is that easy to understand. Who's to say that we could see it? It is supposed to be as close as Neptune in 2011. Last time I looked at the sky I didn't see Neptune staring me down...
The Babylonians seemed not to understand the foundations of these equations and formulas, they only knew how to use them. The Sumerians had an even more exact knowledge of the solar system and its place in our universe than did the Babylonians, whom they predate. The Sumerian calender was originally crafted as early as 3,000 B.C. and is also the model for our calendar today. They based their calender on the cycles of the moon, thereby breaking the year into 12 months, with a leap month put in every three years. Besides the fundementals of day counting, the Sumerians also had knowledge of more arcane astronomical features, some of which are hard to fathom just how they knew.
For example, as the earth spins on it's axis it wobbles, so that a line drawn from the north pole into space traces a circle as the years go by. To be precise, the pole traces a circle at a rate of about one degree every 72 years - effecting which star we call the north star over long periods of time. This phenomenon is called the earths precession. You can observe this effect with a toy top or a gyroscope. At first it stays stationary after the initial spin, but as the spinning slows down, the top of the top begins to trace little circles, which grow bigger and bigger until it falls over. A Great Year, the time it takes for the north pole to point to the same north star again is 25,920 years, calculated by multiplying the 72 years it takes to move one degree by the 360 degrees in a circle.The Sumerians knew of and understood the precession and also knew the length of the Great Year, a truly extraordinary feat given the lengthy observations required to discover this and also given the primitive instruments they had to use to make measurements.
The Sumerians were also able to measure the distance between stars very precisely. But how is it possible that earthbound, primitive, pretechnological people were able to do this? And even more mysteriously, why? Such star maps would be neccessary for space travellers, but not for the ancient primitive Sumerians. Given the extraordinary accuracy of Sumerian astronomical calculations, perhaps it is prudent to have another look at those areas where their information differs from ours. The Sumerians assign 12 "celestial bodies" to the solar system, the sun, the moon and 10 planets. Today we recognize 11 of these, but it was not always the case. Until the late 18th century Western astronomers only knew of the existence of 6 planets - Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. Uranus was discovered in 1781, Neptune in 1846, and Pluto in 1930. In this light, is it possible that the Sumerians 12th celestial body is yet to be discovered, a planet that the Sumerins called Nibiru? Interestingly, in 1972 Joseph L. Brady, an astronomer at the Lawrence Livermore Laboratory discovered a pertubation in Halleys comets orbit that could be explained by the presence of a Jupiter sized planet that orbits ever several thousand years. More recently, it has been found that the trajectories of space craft like the Voyagers are being disturbed by an unknown gravitational force.
Originally posted by Khayal
reply to post by Tribble
Or maybe an image could be missing?
Furthermore - why would a planet in "another dimension" travel around a star in our dimension?
Also, given the the galaxy rotates around it's centre (and thus we do as well), and our galaxy rotates around our local group (and thus we do as well), if Nibiru did travel through a wormhole 3600 years ago to come pay a visit we would no longer be anywhere near that wormhole and so Nibiru would be nowhere near us.
reply to post by WireFoXX I don't believe the Nibiru myth came from the Mayans. Their calendar simply switches to a new cycle in 2012 and people have taken that to mean the end of the world. It's called jumping the gun. The idea of Nibiru came from ZetaTalk: en.wikipedia.org... Also - off by 0.1 of what? That's pretty ambiguous.