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Originally posted by David291
Yep, maybe there were many sources of oxygen, flammable material for the steel to such an heat when the towers hit the floor however, what caused the towers to hit the floor is still unknown imho. The planes wouldn't have caused such a structure to crumble like it did. It might aswell have made out of paper with some of the things I've seen in this thread.
Originally posted by DonJuan
Paper, being watered, burns for 3 months and generates a lot of heat? You do not have to be a professional to understand that it is impossible, but just using common sense.
Thermite of course cannot generate heat over long period. Maybe hours, but not weeks!
Originally posted by kidtwist
I think they sent you in to cause confusion,
I've read your comments and you swing both ways, you cant believe the OS and be and not believe it at the same time. However, I agree with 50% of what you say, the other 50% seems designed to uphold the OS.
Originally posted by DonJuan
The only opinion you can trust is yours, based on multiple sources of information.
OS is too weak to be attacked here and the most ATS members do not believe it already, and I have no fun debating it. It is more difficult with the mainstream truthers theories instead.
OS is Level 1 lie. Once you pass it, you are on Level 2 lies, the Truth movement theories.Once you realize, that they are designed to hide the truth, you are on Level 3, maybe still not the final...
Originally posted by exponent
How many building collapses have you experienced where 220 acres of offices have been set on fire? I certainly haven't been to any, and so I don't have any way of saying what will or will not burn for a long period.
Thermite of course cannot generate heat over long period. Maybe hours, but not weeks!
Originally posted by exponent
This is classic conspiracy theorist special pleading. 'You can only trust your own opinion' means in reality 'you should not believe those people who disagree with us'.
It's rubbish, nobody is creating a giant onion of lies that you can slowly peel back.
Originally posted by exponent
Originally posted by DonJuan
Paper, being watered, burns for 3 months and generates a lot of heat? You do not have to be a professional to understand that it is impossible, but just using common sense.
How many building collapses have you experienced where 220 acres of offices have been set on fire? I certainly haven't been to any, and so I don't have any way of saying what will or will not burn for a long period.
Thermite of course cannot generate heat over long period. Maybe hours, but not weeks!
If Thermite and office materials can't have caused heat over this period. What can?
Originally posted by DonJuan
This is classical "you are not qualified in this area, you must refer to an expert".
I have enough understanding of physics, but I am not pretending to be an expert. Someone who always needs an expert opinion can be easily manipulated.
Originally posted by Juanxlink
Probably none, as there were no 220 acres of office floor on fire that day, but guess hyperbole helps you...
You campfire neural diarrhea is also quite laughable, you do know that the towers were airtight, dont you?
Originally posted by exponent
Originally posted by kidtwist
I think they sent you in to cause confusion,
Originally posted by exponent
Please don't accuse me of being 'sent in'. I don't work for anyone and will just report you and let the mods deal with it if you do accuse me. It's very disrespectful and I'm sure you'd be offended if I claimed you were mentally ill or similar. Why do you think it's ok to accuse other people of being plants?
Originally posted by DonJuan
reply to post by exponent
Read, for example, this article, with comments, in case if you want to find the reason why the fire burned so long.
Tinsley says there are several reasons for the longevity of the fire: "First, this is not a typical fire by any means. The combustible debris is mixed with twisted steel in a mass that covers 17 acres, and may be 50 metres deep. This is the one all future fire scenes will be measured against."
The other reasons are human. For nearly three weeks, Tinsley says, city officials insisted that work at Ground Zero was a rescue operation, meaning it would have been inappropriate to flood the rubble with water. As a result, he says, "the fires had a 17-day head start when we arrived."
And there is the issue of human remains. These are still being found and removed and, since the fires are not threatening any property or lives, they are being allowed to burn on.
Originally posted by kidtwist
Do you have more than one account here under different names do you exponent?
Are you DonJuan who my reply was initially to? Either that or you're getting paranoid for no reason because you are replying to something I wrote to a person called DonJuan.
I find it highly suspicious you would reply to me, about a comment I made to someone else, thinking I had made that reply to you?
Do you have multiple accounts here and are trolling from different ones to spread disinfo? Maybe you're juanxlink as well?!
Originally posted by exponent
Originally posted by kidtwist
Do you have more than one account here under different names do you exponent?
Are you DonJuan who my reply was initially to? Either that or you're getting paranoid for no reason because you are replying to something I wrote to a person called DonJuan.
I find it highly suspicious you would reply to me, about a comment I made to someone else, thinking I had made that reply to you?
Do you have multiple accounts here and are trolling from different ones to spread disinfo? Maybe you're juanxlink as well?!
I do not, You quoted him quoting me and I misread it. I do apologise. I get accused of being a 'shill' all the time so I guess I wasn't careful enough. Sorry again.
Originally posted by kidtwist
This is a contradiction, so whilst looking for survivors they will allow them to be burnt by the heat, so they dont get wet from adding water? That makes no sense at all, not buying this theory one bit.
I've always wondered this, especially seeing as the collapses would have smothered any fires.
Originally posted by exponent
Originally posted by DonJuan
Paper, being watered, burns for 3 months and generates a lot of heat? You do not have to be a professional to understand that it is impossible, but just using common sense.
How many building collapses have you experienced where 220 acres of offices have been set on fire? I certainly haven't been to any, and so I don't have any way of saying what will or will not burn for a long period.
Thermite of course cannot generate heat over long period. Maybe hours, but not weeks!
If Thermite and office materials can't have caused heat over this period. What can?
Originally posted by thedman
reply to post by kidtwist
I've always wondered this, especially seeing as the collapses would have smothered any fires.
Good - so next time am at a fire scene can tell the chief after the building collapses
Chief, theres this clown on the internet who said the fire is out, smothered by the collapse
We dont have to stay here all night pouring water on the burning rubble......
Question is how many fire scenes you been at?