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Muslim Demographics

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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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This is in no way a hate thread. I have nothing negative to say about law abiding Muslims. This information is intended for educational purposes only. It’s historic. When we see such a rapid immigration of this magnitude it must be documented for cultural, ancestral and political reasons. It will also be the largest Religious group on the planet by 2050.

I’m not blaming Muslims but do wonder where all the hatred is coming from towards the US lately. Anyone have a clue? We all enjoy bashing policies and Presidents but the hate is getting quite intense.





posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 08:38 PM
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One of the fake videos I have ever seen.



Images speak louder then words. We just need to find truth from facts.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 09:12 PM
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I can not find a prophecy Muhammad warned about. Argh.... I hate paraphrasing!

Well, Muhammad said a sign of the endtimes would be that the Muslims would be vast and great in number encompassing the world, but that only a small handful would be the true followers of his religion.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 09:14 PM
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Here you go!
Islam and signs of the End Times
Tell me what you think!



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 09:27 PM
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That was one of the sites I skimmed through looking for the Hadith (Tradition Sayings and Actions of Muhammad), I don't think it's in there. I will try to give my best paraphrase based on memory:

"My ummah (Muslim nation) will be vast like the sands. But I will not recognize only but a few as my followers."


So basically Muhammad foretold Islam would be a super large religion but the majority would follow it incorrectly. I see that happening today because these things are against Islam, but are widespread:

• Terrorism
• Killing women, children, old people, religious monks of any religion
• Honor Killing
• Honor Rape
• Restricting women's rights, such as education, etc.
• Imposing Islamic law in non-Islamic countries
• Having symbols for the religion such as the Cresent Moon and Star
• Religious Intolerance


I am in the process of writing a book on the subject. It is in the form of addressing both anti-islamists and radical extremists on the misconceptions and taking verses out of context.

Many misguided Muslims and anti-islamists fail to understand a key point: each verse in the Qur'an has an individual back story. Each verse in the Qur'an was revealed to deal with a specific problem at a specific time. Muhammad warned that we must always keep this in mind to avoid taking Qur'anic verses out of context. This is why sometimes verses "contradict" each other. How can Islam propagate Peace yet say kill all the infidels? Because the verse about killing all the infidels was revealed specifically about a specific battle!



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 09:33 PM
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Well I haven't study much about Islam in a cool minute.
I would offer links I could find and share with you.
Pretty much the same message will be shown through the links.
Antichrist in Islam
Antichrist in Islam 2
Antichrist in Islam 3
Antichrist in Islam wiki article



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by Sahabi
reply to post by wonderworld
 


I can not find a prophecy Muhammad warned about. Argh.... I hate paraphrasing!

Well, Muhammad said a sign of the endtimes would be that the Muslims would be vast and great in number encompassing the world, but that only a small handful would be the true followers of his religion.


I believe you are right about end times prophecy, It's a bit scary isnt it? On the other hand we can rejoice!

I only found one reference but don’t know if this is the one you were looking for.


He said: 'The last hour shall not occur till 70,000 of the children of Isaac shall attack it. When they come to it, they (Muslims) will not fight with arms, nor throw arrows. They will only say: There is no god but Allah, Allah is the greatest, and then on of its sides will fall down. They will recite for the second time : there is no god but Allah, Allah is the greatest, and then another of its side will fall down. After that they will say it for the third time: there is no god but Allah and Allah is the greatest, and then it will be opened for them and they will enter and acquire booty. While they will be dividing the booty, a proclaimer will come to them and proclaim: 'Verily Dajjal has come out. 'Then they will leave everything and return. ' (Muslim)



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 09:56 PM
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You need to source the quote you posted!
We need to understand the message better.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 09:59 PM
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I remember watching this a while back. However...that is to be expected when you allow immigrants from foreign cultures who refuse to assimilate and follow the customs and law, be given residency in developed western nations (the only developed nations who put up with it). And to top it off, many of them are supported through federal services, in other words, they don't necessarily have to be productive members of society to get by. Political correctness has been nothing, but a plague on the west, but they refuse to see it. They can just be admitted as refugees and get the benefits that come with it. Now, I'm not saying that all refugees are like this, but this is a system that can be easily taken advantage of. So much for the sovereignty in Europe.

Hopefully the U.S. can take a lesson from this, but even so, it would be tragic to see the traditions and customs of Europe erode with time and be replaced with primitive legislation and customs such as Shariah law and what not. A shame indeed.
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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:03 PM
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I would blame the Imperialistic Zionist for that subject.
Jews against Israel's terriorism
Of course we can just say Muslims are a race and that they want to destroy everything they touch.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:13 PM
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I got it from your link; Very informative. Thanks
www.inter-islam.org...

I'm also facinated that Dajjal has the same characteristics and false miracles as Devil. Amazing! He also dies but comes back to life after recieving a fatal wound to his head.

www.islam.tc...



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:15 PM
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Yeah! I have come from a website that compare the end times in Islam and Christianity.
It's crazy similar and different.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:17 PM
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Thank you Romantic Rebel for your help. I'll get around to digging the prophecy out of my library when I can.


On topic:

I know all of you non-Muslims are fearful, angry, or upset about the "Islamic Invasion" of western countries and all of the threats and debates about Shariah Law (Islamic Jurisprudence). As an ex Islamic Radical, let me tell you it pisses me off too! When I finally researched Islam more in depth I looked at Islamic Radicals as my enemy, not my brothers!

We Muslims are NOT allowed to impose Islamic Shariah Law on non-Islamic countries! Nor are we allowed to force religion onto others!




"It is necessary upon a Muslim to listen to and obey the ruler, as long as one is not ordered to carry out a sin. If he is commanded to commit a sin, then there is no adherence and obedience." [Prophet Muhammad]




"There shall be no compulsion in religion: the right way is now distinct from the wrong way." [Qur'an Suratul Baqarah 2:256]




"Say: O you Infidels [disbelievers]! I worship not what you worship. Nor do you worship that which I worship. And I will not worship what you worship. Nor will you worship what I worship. To you be your way [religion], and to me be mine." [Qur'an Suratul Kafiroon 109:1-6]


Please quote and use these Islamic evidences as your tools to combat the ignorant Muslims that seek to convert by force and impose Shariah Law in your non-Islamic country.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:23 PM
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Well Intellectuals was the first who howl for the Blood of the Taliban, whole America was thrilled to face an superb Enemy on the Battlefield. Well the Taliban are not so superb enemy's, like the most has suspected eh? Some farmer with an Aka 47, normal cowardly Terrorists, half men/ half chicken... ever hiding, use the women as shield and the half dead TBC infected Children as Bomb carrier against the whole American Infantry. That's soooo "collateral damage".. eh?

What you would do, what let you feel better ? :

  • Say "I support our Troops but not the war" ( the fact is every bullet is paid from you )

  • Say a "Excuse me" to all Moslem." and support the Islam for understanding or do if you have a moral and blame the people for their fear's.

  • Lie yourself, tell all other people "only few minority's in the Islamic World hates the U.S.A" (but if this would be true why nobody bombs Jerusalem or Mecca and let 1.57 Milliard < censored > scream for Allah, are there less minoriy's in the U.S who hates the Islam?"


From where comes the anger against the U.S.A? You are kidding me?



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:23 PM
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Another thing, maybe European nations should adopt policy to encourage increased Caucasian birth rates. Tax breaks, financial benefits, or whatever is available to families for each additional child they have. It worked in Iran, Hitler's Germany, and Zionist Israel.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by Sahabi
Another thing, maybe European nations should adopt policy to encourage increased Caucasian birth rates. Tax breaks, financial benefits, or whatever is available to families for each additional child they have. It worked in Iran, Hitler's Germany, and Zionist Israel.


That would be a good idea but I dont think the EU can reverse the 1.3 kid per family in less than 70 years. Pieces are falling in to place quite rapidly.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:46 PM
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Well, maybe the native european citizens should take matters into their own hands. Here in America many white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups advocate trying to out-breed the minorities... white men and white woman having as many children as they can. It might seem racist and drastic, but dam... what do Caucasian people want, to be exterminated by simply not breeding enough or interracially breeding? I'm not even Caucasian but I think they need to do something to save their race.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:56 PM
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To be honest I actually cried watching that video.

At the risk of sounding completely politically incorrect, a bigot, Islamophobic, and a right-wing wack-job I will state my opinion.

Islam is growing and is dominating throughout the world. We need to have respect for other cultures but not believe in cultural relativism. Islam is a dangerous ideology and is not merely a religion like they try and teach you to believe. Muslims are not bad people but Islam is bad because it is more than a religion and instructs Muslims on how to govern society.

It is a requirement of Islam that Muslims enforce certain Islam laws upon their own people thus segregating them from the Westerners. They have immigrated to the West yet many of them have a deep resentment and hostility towards the West. Hitler had created a legacy that continues on, it is more than just a legacy of slaughtering millions of innocent people but one where questioning certain groups of people becomes labeled Nazism and Fascism.

Due to Hitler and everything that he did his beloved country of Germany will be taken over by a foreign people so much more hostile to Western civilization and culture than any threat a Jew could ever pose (which is none). Islam is not for democracy, they are not for free speech, they are not for assimilation, they are not for liberty, that is not part of Islam and they are required to subscribe to everything in the Koran.

Islam is hostile to everything about the Western world. It is hostile to non-Muslims, it is hostile to freedom, equality, liberty, and unity. They do not consider themselves for example German first but rather they are Muslim first.

Why should our culture be wiped off the face of the map and be replaced with a foreign culture? Are we not allowed to have our own damn culture? Is that such a problem to you Liberals? If you want Multicultural society then go to Saudi Arabia and start there!

A nation is not a nation without a culture, only one culture can exist in one country, either that country has that culture or they can accept the destructive multiculturalism of Liberalism and the Globalists. What good will you get out of our nations becoming Islamic, Liberals I am talking to you! Do you think they will tolerate your kind when our countries become Islamic? Do you think they will give you a pass on being non-religious, humanist, secular, or espousing views of Liberalism? Do you think you will have the right to vote or be treated fairly? Will your kids be praying to God or to Allah?

I am sure you will tell me I am “just paranoid that will never happen and stop being such a bigot or accept people for who they are!” I wonder how much they will accept you when this becomes their country. I wonder how much your beliefs will be respected or how every tradition you have ever held dear will suddenly become subject to persecution.

How are the Christians in the Middle East doing? You think they have it okay? How about the Atheists in Iran, you think they have a good life? They can keep Islamic culture in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, and Libya and let us keep Christian-Jewish-Humanist culture in Israel, Sweden, France, and the USA.
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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:59 PM
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Originally posted by Sahabi
reply to post by wonderworld
 


Well, maybe the native european citizens should take matters into their own hands. Here in America many white supremacist and neo-Nazi groups advocate trying to out-breed the minorities... white men and white woman having as many children as they can. It might seem racist and drastic, but dam... what do Caucasian people want, to be exterminated by simply not breeding enough or interracially breeding? I'm not even Caucasian but I think they need to do something to save their race.


Putting it that way one would expect the US and EU citizens to multiply fast, like today; however we have instilled a belief system based on education costs per kid, etc, etc.

What I fear is the planning of some sort of global depopulation agenda, perhaps by the G-20. The global food supply isnt sustainable, as well as other commodities.
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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 11:04 PM
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That's how religion works. Christianity, Judaism, Islam and countless other religious beliefs have been used for government. Since many countries have majorities who are Muslim they would impose Islamic law. Christians and Jews would agree that religion should play a role in government. If you study history on religion and different cultures through time you will see how there's a lot of good and bad. I would appreciate if this doesn't spin out to religious wars.



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