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Pentagon data diverted to Chinese servers

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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 04:35 PM
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Pentagon data diverted to Chinese servers


www.abc.net.au

The United States has revealed the details of a startling breakdown in cyber security in April, when 15 per cent of the world's internet traffic was diverted through China.

Experts describe it as one of the biggest redirections of internet data they have ever seen.

For 18 minutes on April 8, emails and internet material sent from the Pentagon and NASA were re-routed via Chinese servers.

A US government report blames China Telecom, but does not say why it might have happened or whether
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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 04:35 PM
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This is interesting news because of what it might mean.

Firstly how did China Telecom redirect that much traffic to China without first accessing the Internet's root servers, this is assuming I understand what they vaguely mean by "internet traffic".

Just put more security on the root servers then, this does NOT mean that the United States needs to create new legislation allowing it to have more power/control or even ownership over the Internet.

And if it's an issue of Pentagon server security then the Pentagon is only proving that they do not know how to lead security and should therefore be the last people to control it!

Nonetheless who knows, is the main Banker and subsidizer of the American Govt. doing all the things that falls beyone the true role of govt. trying to gather secret information of it's biggest customer that the nation has ever known?

Thoughts ATS?

www.abc.net.au
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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 04:39 PM
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I was thinking the same thing, well how did they do it.

But if it's programmed into the hardware that's used, that would get around the root.

Say the Chinese turned on their call home protocol, and all the Chinese made modems, routers, ect called home.

You know that at least some of the electronics used in the Pentagon and elsewhere originated from China!
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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 04:42 PM
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how else would they know where to pop up to emberass our troops in their drill not too long ago. not hard to hide a sub if the sub is already in place, and stationary to appear as if it is justa large rock on the bottom. explains one of the covert blows we have been trading. makes sense it wouldnt come out untill now though?



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 04:42 PM
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well why isn't the Pentagon and NASA sending emails on a secured network? Wheres all this money we give them go if they suck at securing information?





edit on 17-11-2010 by Myendica because: my 1776th post! Viva la Revolution!



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 04:44 PM
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All I can say right now is WOW.
I can't believe this isn't more important to people right now.

How on Earth can our supposedly impenetrable 'Pentagon' have the sense to let this slide?

This could be an Internet war and we would never know.
Then, they could really restrict the 'internet'.
Or pass new laws to regulate it.


Very interesting development...
I'll be watching.




posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Jeanius
But if it's programmed into the hardware that's used, that would get around the root.

Say the Chinese turned on their call home protocol, and all the Chinese made modems, routers, ect called home.


That's called Firmware
You never know but I would doubt it

The question is though how long has this being going on?
China is also a foreign lobbyist, this may have been going on for a long time



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 04:54 PM
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Originally posted by Myendica
well why isn't the Pentagon and NASA sending emails on a secured network? Wheres all this money we give them go if they suck at securing information?


They probably do have a secured network but use the internet for some things. I'd bet that their secured network didn't get rerouted. The article says


emails and internet material sent from the Pentagon and NASA


Internet not their internal internet.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 04:56 PM
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no,no,no they are wonderful at collecting data, its our data that they want. everywhere else is second priority. figured all americans knew this by now. what with all the money cia injected into facebook for another (legal) way to snoop



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 05:13 PM
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i don't think you can store that much data with the current known technology.Actually Cern does it with the LHC but they have a bunch of forensics who worked on a system for years i doubt China has that resource.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 05:16 PM
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Z-file with SPARK harware unlimted file storage file system, although i believe there (China's) newest super-computer has INTEL inside,, gotta luv greed,, lol



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 05:26 PM
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15% of the traffic? Diverted at which point? From which nations?

More than likely, the Chinese masked what data they were trying to steal by burying it in a mass diversion of a whole bunch of useless data. Considering how much internet traffic is dedicated to spam emails and porn, that's probably what made up most of the diversionary data.

This goes back to the whole routers-manufactured-in-china issue. Essentially, they could be putting "back doors" in a large percentage of the internet routing hardware that they can control at the time they want. Once they figure out a point that commonly routes traffic they are interested in intercepting, they flip that particular switch at the same time they flip thousands of other switches.

That makes it VERY difficult to figure out what data they were after.
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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by themaster1
i don't think you can store that much data with the current known technology.Actually Cern does it with the LHC but they have a bunch of forensics who worked on a system for years i doubt China has that resource.

But they don't have to store ALL the data they diverted. Only the data they wanted, which was probably just a very small percentage, the rest was just junk data that they threw out.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 05:34 PM
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AND it would have to be built around the same type of SCRIPT that was used in the Siemens Controls Virus,, also as i mentioned on here before would also have to be a Boot Rom script gaining access, to,, well u get the idea.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 05:38 PM
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Yes they can access and save all that data. The NSA has been doing that since echelon. But they had actual hardware on the AT&T backbone in the USA.

The worrying part is for China to have the means to do this they would need to have access to ISP switching nodes.
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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 05:42 PM
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Duh! who do u think built them,,, lol like i said gotta luv greed,
Name the worlds fastest super-computer on this planet right now,, thats right China,, and guess who helped them to build it,,??



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 05:52 PM
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Good point. The NSA is probably laughing right now...."15%? That's nothing - we collect 100% of American internet traffic, and then some..."



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by themaster1
i don't think you can store that much data with the current known technology.Actually Cern does it with the LHC but they have a bunch of forensics who worked on a system for years i doubt China has that resource.


You and me are a capable of having that resource with nothing more than a credit card

This is nothing!



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 05:56 PM
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i think you all might be asking the wrong questions... the question isn't how the chinese did it.. or why they did it... the question is IF they did it.. i think we all know the federal government wants to start censoring the internet, they want a good bit of it shut down period. so, what if this is some "false "E" flag"?

if "national security" is at risk, or "defense secrets" are being jacked, then it won't be long before the internet in the u.s.a. is cut off from the rest of the world.. and censored to the point where all we'll be able to do is check out the weather channel.com.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by notsofast
i think you all might be asking the wrong questions... the question isn't how the chinese did it.. or why they did it... the question is IF they did it.. i think we all know the federal government wants to start censoring the internet, they want a good bit of it shut down period. so, what if this is some "false "E" flag"?

if "national security" is at risk, or "defense secrets" are being jacked, then it won't be long before the internet in the u.s.a. is cut off from the rest of the world.. and censored to the point where all we'll be able to do is check out the weather channel.com.


See thats what i don't get from you people, everytime a threat is presented, its pull stakes and run, or close down the internet,, same thing,, gee where's the old america??



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