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Originally posted by Calender
It shouldn't be "we" or "them." It should be "us" the united people of the world
Originally posted by Jay-morris Yes, and some people forget, or don't even know the inventions that have come out of China
Chinese inventions
Originally posted by sir_slide
This is not a very progressive attitude man. Sure China have a bad history of human rights abuses, this is well documented. But do you REALLY think that it in any way compares to the list against the US? If so that's totally fine. Although it's not all that helpful to be stubborn about any issue, they're both bad, they both abuse human rights. This is the first step towards progress, acknowledging guilt on both sides, no apology needed.
The child limit is in place to deal with china's overwhelming population issues though, I think they're just trying to be pragmatic, as they do tend to play the 'long game'.
Originally posted by FrancoUn-American
reply to post by Wildforestlad
Yes slavery was in Australia don't try n lie boy!
convict slavery in australia
"the experience furnished by these penal settlements has proved that transportation is capable of being carried to an extent of suffering such as to render death desirable, and to induce many prisoners to seek it under its most appalling aspects." Shaw's researches also showed that the brutalities of life in the penal settlements at Norfolk Island and Port Arthur were so horrifying that "convicts were known to commit murder in order to be sent away for trial"...The period when the Moreton Bay penal settlement was under the command of Captain Patrick Logan was "an era when convicts were literally whipped to death and desperate prisoners cast lots to slit one another's throats as a merciful escape from torment." Life for many convicts in Australia was extraordinarily severe, wherein they suffered from the conditions of horrendous slavery.
Originally posted by Calender Not until the tribalistic ideas of nationalism and patriotism are done away with will people be able to see all mankind as a united race and one family, until that time, and until nationalism and patriotism are abolished (which will be never, unless all those who foment this thinking are done away with) you will continue to have division, hatred, sacred egotisim for one's one country above another's, and war
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
Originally posted by Calender Not until the tribalistic ideas of nationalism and patriotism are done away with will people be able to see all mankind as a united race and one family, until that time, and until nationalism and patriotism are abolished (which will be never, unless all those who foment this thinking are done away with) you will continue to have division, hatred, sacred egotisim for one's one country above another's, and war
Patriotism is the mark and the cry of Free-men, what China needs is Independence... Take a look at the other nations who have achieved this and their patriotism is the cry of their individuality.
you really must be with the NWO trying to destroy everyones pride, you've got a clue but your missing one crucial track of thought.
Patriotism is possibly the only thing the the NWO buffs fear the most and they are trying to do away with it so they have no resistance in their agenda.
edit on 21-11-2010 by Cosmic.Artifact because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
Originally posted by Jay-morris Yes, and some people forget, or don't even know the inventions that have come out of China
Chinese inventions
yeah they tried this with the Arabs too after the 911 attacks, I remember seeing all over the BBC programs all the sympathizing because of the Abacus ect.
Unfortunately the Arabs got most of their knowledge from the Greek and China's lack of advancement until the last 50 yrs or so I would have to respond with...
It took real men and true free-thinkers to do something with these said inventions !
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
reply to post by Jay-morris
oh Gia is here... this is where American and British ideals take a major split. I would die for any man or woman who is experiencing human rights violations and those who have not been able to achieve their full potential as members of the human race. Our leaders may have expressed solidarity with Britain but our people are being controlled too by your aristocratic heritage which has brought havoc to the world ! Our fighting soldiers are dying everyday for the cause of independence and free thought. If I seen a woman being raped and the rapist had a gun there would be nothing stopping me from intervening, you Brits on the other hand are too PC and would turn the blind eye. What does this make you, mindless automatons ?
Get it straight Britain... our patriots do not express solidarity with you and like the whole of the rest of the planet were ready to come down on you !
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
reply to post by Jay-morris
then we have our line in the sand... I agree with mwood then.
History exposes your atrocities there is no denying it, now your oligarchs are trying to get the rest of the nations to point the finger at America when we are doing a great thing. History has also recorded how no nation has done what America has done before regardless of where inventions and blahh blahh comes from, our unity and diversity of all races has done something with it here... something great, greater than Britain or its people were brave enough to do !edit on 21-11-2010 by Cosmic.Artifact because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by WhiteDevil013
reply to post by Misoir
Misoir, you and I have had our differences in the past. But on this I proudly stand at your side. I was appalled to see that post the other day, and even more appalled to witness so many agree with the author of that post.
I attempted to interject my opinion, and even suggested that the OP just leave this country, rather than complain and apologize. If life is so bad here, and if you are that embarrassed by your home, just leave I said. Tis sentiment caught much pushback from the more liberal minded ATSers.
Thank you for providing the other side of the coin. We may not be a perfect nation, far from it, but we are a nation of people who would risk our lives to help another country. How many other nations out there do the same?
Originally posted by Jay-morris
At the end of the day, you are human, i am human, we all are human, not bloody countries. Its backward thinking, as simple as that. And with it comes hatred,greed,violence etc and, of course, tribal warefare
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
Originally posted by Jay-morris
At the end of the day, you are human, i am human, we all are human, not bloody countries. Its backward thinking, as simple as that. And with it comes hatred,greed,violence etc and, of course, tribal warefare
you are only trying to mask what your rich and wealthy have done to this world, or you are believing their lies... You want to talk unity we represent the true unity of races and freedom, your idea is that of the slave mentality.
free your mind !
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
Originally posted by Calender
It shouldn't be "we" or "them." It should be "us" the united people of the world
I'm with the aristocratic NWO globalist too...
Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact
reply to post by Jay-morris
you've got a long way to go young buck... I am finished with you again for now.
You questions and statements pose no real weight.