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UPS902 Contrail Science plane theory debunked

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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 06:47 PM
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One thing that caught my attention on the contrail science link is their explanation for the bright flickering light.

The problem I have is that with the LA sighting, the sun appears to be coming from the right of the vid judging from the trail; however, the website shows the sun would have to come from the left for the case they are making. Weird.




posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 07:23 PM
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Yes When I first learned of this. That contrails are not always checking the weather, that they are really droopping chemicals on us .I was skeptical . I live close to a AFB. I started paying attention to the planes. THey are doing the Contrails when the weeks weather was forecast to be nice all week. There would be 5 or 6 planes in the air for hours at a time doing the contrails. Now I dont know what to beleive.They are saying that secret societys are trying to get the Population down to 3,ooo,ooo.They are wanting to kill off the poor,old,sick and the minoritys.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 07:31 PM
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IM sorry for my reply, i thought the topic was about contrails in general .



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
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So what evidence do you have if it was a plane?, a photo of a contrail doesn't even count as a evidence, i am still standing by the missile theory and it seems you plane believers have a problem with that



LOL...nice try to deflect the question.

I'm asking YOU what evidence there is that this is a missile...please answer THAT question. If you don't have any evidence...then just say so.


I think your the one whose deflecting my question aimed at you.


Why did the plane believers change there flight number from 808 to 902?

Why haven't the pilots came forward yet to admit it was there plane that made the contrail? or better yet the airport to admit it was there plane? usually airports do that, give a confirmation, the same confirmation if they have a terrorist on aboard or something else is happening on the plane.


Nice try plane believer.

And also no evidence was posted that it was a plane, spamming that contrail science as proofs reminds of people of people posting UFOS from youtubes as proof!
at least some of them.

Plane flight tracks don't mean that much as proof and usually planes can change there in flight movements




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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 08:53 PM
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After reading i now believe it was probably a plane! "China," LOL!

Thanks for the thread!!



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 09:02 PM
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ok, so can somebody please
explain to me how one part
of a plume can disappear
leaving the other part of the plume
completely intact? Please note
everything above the cloud disappears
and everything below it is moved over.
The cut-off for the effect is the stationary
cloud that never moves.



this is sloppy photoshopping
it's been faked



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 09:40 PM
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now let's look at a real set of pics from this event
as captured by KCBS footage. See the plume
above the cloud does not disappear. And it does
NOT show the object going to the right which is where
the plane theory folks want it to go to back their
argument that the video was a plane.



Now let's look back at the fake pics
to see that disappearing plume again.



so as you can see the evidence shows the pics are faked
for an agenda. Contrail Science is a fraud and so is
their plane theory.

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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 09:57 PM
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How did the theory that this missile is Chinese come about? Or rather, what hard evidence is there?

I'm not sure this was covered. Probably the wrong thread to discuss this ... but in the end, that's the core issue here. And maybe the most important issue considering the ramifications.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by area6
How did the theory that this missile is Chinese come about? Or rather, what hard evidence is there?

I'm not sure this was covered. Probably the wrong thread to discuss this ... but in the end, that's the core issue here. And maybe the most important issue considering the ramifications.

yes u r correct, the chinese missile
should be discussed in the other
thread. This thread is just to debunk
the contrail science fake pics which
has been accomplished.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:29 PM
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Well, Ive never in my life seen so much conspiracy over a jet's trail.

Even by the government.

If this was a planes trail, the government would have said so from day 1.

Being they even admitted to not knowing and then pushed the control theory so hard is an obvious attempt at making sure we DONT know what it really was.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:36 PM
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Originally posted by area6
How did the theory that this missile is Chinese come about? Or rather, what hard evidence is there?

I'm working on that.
I believe we will be able to prove
who fired it and what kind it is
by the plume trail signature.
I am in the process of comparing
ICBM's from different countries
as we speak and creating profiles
of each plume signature. Then all we
have to do is match the plume in the
video to the plume in the profile and
we will be able to tell. That takes
a lil while longer than disproving
the plane theory. It's gonna take time.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 11:07 PM
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When an aircraft flies into a region which is not conducive to persistent contrail formation the contrail evaporates. Just as occurs at :10 here.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 11:17 PM
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Phage
please address my evidence that the
plume remained in one set of pics
and disappeared in the fake ones?
Or else, we have nothing further to discuss



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 11:18 PM
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Please provide the timestamps for both sets of images. Otherwise your point is pointless.



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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Please provide the timestamps for both sets of images. Otherwise your point is pointless.

so you please provide me with the timestamps
of the contrail science pics also or else
your point is pointless.

And while you're at it include the EXF data
from those pics where it shows the photshop
signature.

thanks



posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 11:30 PM
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I asked you first.
It doesn't look like the images were taken at the same time to me.

Do you think that because Photoshop was used to download an image from a camera that indicates something in particular? Do you see signs of photo manipulation? Can you present that evidence? You don't seem to have been able to present any evidence of anything so far.

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posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 12:07 AM
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No.
The claims are yours. It's up to you to provide evidence to back them up.
Demonstrate that the images are altered copies.
Demonstrate that the contrail did not evaporate naturally.


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