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Greek PM says it at last: carbon taxes are just another way to raise revenue

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posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 06:57 PM
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Claims in the article that carbon tax wont lead to reduction in fossil carbon are unfounded - if you tax usage of a commodity, the market would naturally try to use it less and look for alternatives (and even more if they are subsidized), since thats the way to maximize profit. Even if the revenue decreased in the future, they need the money for bailouts NOW, so that point is irrelevant too.


Obviously you do not understand the energy market. Alternative fuels or energy sources are required but there really are only two viable alternatives.

Tidal power - under development and could be a serious answer to energy problems

Nuclear - the cheapest but the least popular.

Despite what you may think wind energy is a complete non-starter as a major source of energy. Not only is it the most expensive to produce and the blades need replacement every 15 years but also it ceases to function when the wind does not blow or when it blows too much. In order to provide backup to erratic wind conventional sources have to be on standby which is extra cost. In addition it is not so easy to regulate the frequency of wind produced power as it is not regulated like a stream turbine which runs at 3000 rpm (UK/Europe) to give 50~ per second.

Where I live I can see 54 wind turbines from the house. Our electricity supply is supposed to be 230v but varies regularly between 216 and 244. This is mainly because of all the turbines.

Picture a nice cold crisp winter day. No wind. No power. Big problem. Our daft government id aiming for 30% wind generated power and yet on a no wind day the conventional systems cannot meet the load without power being drawn from the inter-connector with the UK. The more wind generation we have the more this will happen and if the UK goes that way as well the will be no power available in the inter-connector. We will start to see brownouts and then blackouts.

Wave power suffers from the same problem. No wind, no waves. Tidal power is the only green power way to go.

UK power

The wind section says it all



And look at the inter-connector



UK is drawing from France and nothing is going out to Ireland.
edit on 17/11/2010 by PuterMan because: (no reason given)




posted on Nov, 17 2010 @ 10:16 PM
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He hasn't let the "cat out of the bag".
All he has done is play his role in the globalist agenda. He is barely Greek besides his surname. He was educated in America, even speaks English like an American.

His comments are just part of the conditioning of the people to get them to accept new taxes.
That is all.

It's pretty obvious that reducing carbon emissions is just an excuse for governments to implement more taxes and rob us of even more of our hard earned money.



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 04:04 AM
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Originally posted by BLV12
He hasn't let the "cat out of the bag".
All he has done is play his role in the globalist agenda. He is barely Greek besides his surname. He was educated in America, even speaks English like an American.

His comments are just part of the conditioning of the people to get them to accept new taxes.
That is all.

It's pretty obvious that reducing carbon emissions is just an excuse for governments to implement more taxes and rob us of even more of our hard earned money.


I never thought that a persons education is what represented his or her heritage. Given that he and his counterpart were both friends during their educational highway would indicate that both the socialist and conservative methods of ruling are one as a united opinion regarding greece's transformation in the new world order. Sadly its citizens have been lied to over the decades, well over the last 30 odd years should create a momentum to oust the so called four families who seem to govern its political agenda.

Then again what do i know.


P.S. , Lets see how its citizens will react when NATO announces the agean sea is to be monitored from turkish forces. Oh and yes the latest media blitz along with the internet blitz regarding eu police guarding the mainland that intersects with turkey was not a chance deal. E.U. has established its borders with a signed deal that noone is to trespass into eu without its consent, along with when hostilities commence with greece and turkey over the agean it will be a maritime skirmish and it will only remain as a naval skirmish.
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