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Hillary on the Ticket

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posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 10:58 AM
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Drudge is quoting Washinton Insiders that Hillary Clinton is destined to become Kerry's running mate. Personally I have thought this would be the case all along. While those that hate her, hate her with every cell in their bodies she is still a huge draw among women and many swing voters. She can raise money like no one beside her husband and she has a level of experience that will read really well in the press.

Here is a link to the story Drudge is reporting.

www.drudgereport.com...

I do believe she would bring more votes to Kerry than even Edwards. McCain is still the dream candidate, bring the parties together but we all know now that can't happen. So let's grab the next best thing, especially since she has polled so well.




posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 11:12 AM
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oh no... if there's anything more sickening than hillary herself, it's the whining of new york republicans who think she's the devil. if this is true, i can't wait for 4 years of hillary-bashing. (sarcasm.) don't do it, kerry!

-koji K.

[edit on 30-6-2004 by koji_K]



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 11:16 AM
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Oh man. That's actually kind of frightening. I don't know if I could take seeing Hillary in the White House. WOW!! It's not that she's a woman, it's that it's Hillary Clinton!! I always thought she kind of evil. Now this. And if they win, oh snap!



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 11:16 AM
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Man, this would be either extremely good or extremely bad for the dems...






but extremely bad for all Americans



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 11:18 AM
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hahaha, this has cracked me up for some reason.

Will be watching to see how this develops!

Go Hilary!



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 11:19 AM
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Her power base is nowhere near strong enough to be a viable member of the ticket. Believe me, there are just as many women who despise her as there are who like her- perhaps more. If John F. Kerry does this, then GWB is a shoe-in for re-election.

When all is said and done, I fully expect Edwards to be John F. Kerry's running mate. John F. Kerry MUST carry the Southern battleground states to have a snowball's chance of winning. Hillary Rodman would make that an impossibility.



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 11:21 AM
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No way, man! If she's in, then I'm out. The last thing this country needs is that socialist letch in office. Can anyone actually name 1 thing that Hitlary has accomplished that has benefitted her constituents while a Senator? Or while being Bill's co-president?



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 11:24 AM
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"So predicts a top Washington insider"
The Drudge is not a reliable source of info. Kerry would never pick Hillary. He needs someone who can get people from the middle, not push them to the other side,



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 11:32 AM
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I am not sure I would say drudge is not a reliable source.
He broke the Monica story and was responsible for most of the info we got early on Whitewater (obviously he is no clinton fan).

As for whether Kerry will do this? what choice does he really have, I don't believe that Edwards will cause anyone to vote Kerry, seems he won't bring many new votes but hillary could bring some, remember she has a huge following, look at the money she raises and all of her bad stuff is out there, it has been hashed and re-hashed. Now those that hate her surely would not pick GWB and his crew just because she is the VP. That would be insane.

Let me try to logically lay out my thoughts.

Kerry has to be seen as being in the middle (well he is trying).
Edwards is seen as being middle, slightly right
Hillary is seen as somewhat middle but more left.

Okay in this election swing votes and Nader supporters are the big targets for Kerry. Especially Nader as polls show him as being the difference between Kerry having a shot at it or not.

Okay so looking at Edwards he hits some swing voters but misses on the Nader supporters. Will he bring enough to win? Probably not, he is so close to Kerry.

You bring in Hillary though and you have a shot at getting those Nader supporters. Now even though many here seem to hate her she is a powerful person who brings in a lot of money and a huge following among women and minorities. So she does target the Nader folks and an interesting mix of women/minority voters. Let's not forget that many love her husband and that could translate to her (yeah it could go the other way but less likely) Also she is a big target for the repubicans, but let them attack her and see how long it takes the womens/minority organizations to rally behind her. Again, more votes possible.

Now before you say this is not possible consider this. Bush did the same thing. He was in the middle, pulled in Cheney to get those on the right. This is really not so different by putting Hillary on the ticket.

[edit on 6/30/2004 by nativeokie]



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 12:00 PM
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Okie, I think it would be a wash. Yeah, he would pick up a few votes due to her presence on the ticket, but I think he would lose a few as well. Either way, it would be an extremely controversial choice. Hillary may very well be the most polarizing person in American politics right now.

My feeling is John F. Kerry will opt for safety over controversy, and thus Edwards is the logical choice.

You have to understand that Edwards would open up the South for John F. Kerry - a region of the country he has no prayer of carrying at the current time. Most in the south view Kerry as an elitist northeastern liberal, and that dog won't hunt south of the Mason-Dixon line. If you can't carry the South, you can't win, period.

One name I keep hearing floated around is Sam Nunn. While he has become persona non grata on the Hill, he is still very respected in certain circles. There is no denying his intelligence. It would be an intriguing choice.

[edit on 6/30/2004 by Karellen]



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 12:01 PM
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I would think she'd balk at this because I am under the impression she'd want the Presidency. If she runs with Kerry and he wins, she's VP for four and then Kerry's up for re-election which means she's either VP for another four or has to sit it out for four until she can run herself. Or Kerry loses and she has to put up or shut up in four more years.

If she ran with Kerry and they won... well... I'd watch my back if I were Kerry!



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 12:06 PM
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I don't think Nader will be a factor. Nader didn't win the Green Party nomination and will have a hard time making it on the ballot in many of the states.
Hillary may estrange voters who are republicans or non-affiliated that would be voting for Kerry because of Bush. But, on the other hand, Hillary has major major name recognition. So it would pop up as Kerry Clinton. Plus can you imagine all the women who would instantly vote for the ticket to see a woman hold the highest office ever in the US!!!

Edwards has a little name recognition, but not like Hillary. Edwards wouldn't gain or lose any voters for Kerry. Hillary will win some votes over and lose some votes over, so who knows if the difference will remain positive or not.

To Sum Up, Hillary is a gamble, but could reap huge benefits...Edwards is a safety pick.



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 12:08 PM
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I say, put Hilliary on the ticket, let her run with Kerry, if Kerry's elected, good for them.

Maybe it's about time we let a woman in there and see how she'd do things ?



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by elevatedone
I say, put Hilliary on the ticket, let her run with Kerry, if Kerry's elected, good for them.

Maybe it's about time we let a woman in there and see how she'd do things ?


I thought Hillary already had 8 years as president.



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by intrepid

I thought Hillary already had 8 years as president.


lmao. That's one way of looking at it!



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 12:29 PM
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The gender issue kinda opens up another whole can of worms. Sure, it would be a step to have a woman hold such high political office. But is this the right woman, aside from being the right person? The first one to do anything big is always remembered, especially if it's not done well. It could make it difficult for the next woman with an eye on the Presidency if the Pantsuit Queen gets in there first. I think she's bad news.



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 12:48 PM
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If Hillary thinks Bush is going to win, she won't be VP, she'll instead run for prez in 08.

If Hillary thinks Kerry is truly going to win, she will probably seize her chance to be on the ticket realizing that if Kerry wins, running for prez in 08 would be tough.

either way, Bush needs to put Rudy Guillani on the ticket and fast.



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 12:54 PM
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I am curious why Gulliani is such a big deal. Okay I have so much respect for the man following 9/11. He was a very powerful and calming force that day and a few following. I think he was meant to be there, the current mayor could never have calmed fears and communicated the feelings of that city to the world the way Gulliani did. Now with that aside what else does he offer? Why is he the best person for the job? Doesn't he have some ugly skeletons in his closet, a mistress leading to divorce if I recall.

Surely there are more powerful and safer choice for Bush if Cheney was to leave. What about Condi Rice? Talk about a ticket, Kerry gets Hillary and Bush gets Rice. The womens vote and minority vote would be very interesting to watch.



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by nativeokie
Drudge is quoting Washinton Insiders that Hillary Clinton is destined to become Kerry's running mate.


God help us.


I honestly think Bush will win if Hillary is the Veep.



posted on Jun, 30 2004 @ 01:12 PM
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Okay so the below link is propaganda (just calling it what it is) but it outlines a poll taken by Luntz for Rush of all people. It shows that dems would abandon Kerry to support Clinton as President. Now that may or may not be true but it does help to make a Kerry/Clinton ticket seem more of a possiblity.

I am no supporter of Hillary Clinton but I do believe she would be an interesting VP to watch. Not sure what we would see but there would be some drama for sure.

www.hillary.org...



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