"FDA Bans Caffeine In Alcoholic Beverages?"

reply to post by Nobama


So they don't negate each other then?

reply to post by maybereal11


People die from drinking jack and coke a thousand billion times more often than from Joose.

reply to post by maybereal11


Thank you for digging out the information, maybe people will stop trying to claim this is another TPTB way of putting us down...

Originally posted by Nobama
reply to post by thisguyrighthere

 

Really?..okay let me explain it in a way a 3rd grader could understand.

Caffeine = Stimulant (look it up if your not sure)
Alcohol = Depressant

When the two mix you get negated effects which could lead to overdose of Alcohol i.e Alcohol poisoning because it's harder to tell how drunk you really are.

Let me expalin in a way you can understand.

Cars = thousands of pounds of materials
Gas = fuel for your several thousand pound missle.

Mix the 2 together,you get a chance of killing several people in 1 shot.

If your gonna ban anything and say its because of the peoples health ,then lets not be hippocrits ,ban it all. Oh wait YOU need YOUR car ,so that just doesnt make sense does it.

reply to post by thisguyrighthere


They do and thats why you die from it, lol seriously either your trolling or you just have a hard time coping with simple statements..

reply to post by undivided


Last time I checked you aren't putting any of this into your body...you can't compare the two.

reply to post by Nobama


I'm pretty sure you dont know what the word "negate" means.

The sensation of being drunk may be lessened but you are still drunk. Just because you dont feel like you're dying doesnt mean you arent dying.

The caffeine does dont neutralize the alcohol nor does the alcohol neutralize the caffeine.

*stand on soapbox*

Until we get rid of the "revolving door policy" where the FDA is run by the large companies (for example Monsanto & Cyril) we will continue to have meaningless publicity stunts like this ban on caffeine additives while they simultaneously bypass evaluating dangerous products with "equivalency" studies which condone the sale of poisons like GMO's and Aspartame which have been scientifically proven to damage our bodies.

*breath*

*/rantend*

reply to post by thisguyrighthere


# To make ineffective or invalid; nullify.
# To rule out; deny.

When consuming both, the Caffeine can nullify the intoxicating effects of Alcohol in other words even though you wont feel the effects (since they are being nullified) doesn't mean its not still there...


oh and before you go off saying something else stupid

Nullified means to counteract the force or effectiveness of.

reply to post by Nobama


Really ? Where exactly does ciggerette smoke go? I mean thats the only example I have to give, but this could go on and on if you like. Its all about principle.

reply to post by Nobama


Yup.

So does the caffeine nullify the alcohol?

I can take equal parts caffeine and alcohol and end up neither drunk nor hyper?

This is a stupid hole you're digging and a massive derail but hey, I got nothin' else to do.

reply to post by undivided


Ciggs are a whole different story, there's so much money involve with those companies that they can easily pay of the FDA.

Originally posted by Nobama
reply to post by undivided

 

Ciggs are a whole different story, there's so much money involve with those companies that they can easily pay of the FDA.

No money in beer and liquor huh? Its the exact same thing. Your trying to seperate the two. And you are saying what I said before anyways. Its about who has the most money to hire the best lobbiest. Not health.

reply to post by thisguyrighthere


I gave you everything you needed to know, but you cant seem to grasp it. Caffeine's effects negate Alcohols Effects, but Alcohol is STILL a poison that when consumed to much of will kill you.

Are you really this stupid? I just don't see how this is hard to understand, anyone else mind chiming in and try explaining it better for me?

Originally posted by Nobama
reply to post by thisguyrighthere

 

Caffeine's effects negate Alcohols Effects, but Alcohol is STILL a poison that when consumed to much of will kill you.

It'll still kill me? But it's been nullified!?!?!

reply to post by Nobama


Have you ever had caffeine and alcohol together? I suspect not. They do not, in any fashion, cancel each other out.

You are still skrewed up, but you're just not as sleepy. Really. Trust me. Rum and Diet Mt. Dew is a killer.

reply to post by undivided


There is money in Beer and liquid, all of those have been around for ages, but caffeinated alcohol has only been around for 5 years maybe less? Though due to the recent spikes in deaths related to these beverages the FDA sees it as something that just doesn't need to be done. I agree that Cars,Cigarettes,Beer, etc are bad for us, but stuff like that is going to always be around.

Well the problem with combining stimulants with depressants is that it enables one to drink alcohol without really feeling the depressive effects as much that might make one otherwise stop drinking.

I'm against banning it of course though. It's a sad state when the government thinks it can ban what people use irresponsibly sometimes like a nanny state, but when it comes to cheaper healthcare and affordable education, people can go die for all they care.

The thing is though...other than packaged products, this is completely impossible to enforce. (and therefore inevitably, ridiculous), when you're talking about combining two legal products.

There is nothing keeping anyone from mixing the two at a party, and there will still be cases of this. (maybe even more so, thanks to the new stigma of being "illegal").... it just won't be as accessible in a ready to drink form.

I'd be curious to see how the legislation is worded...the devil is in the details....

reply to post by Evanescence


If they ban coffee stouts, beer nerds of the world will go crazy. In fact, they have already started.

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