According to so called "debunkers" the Holocaust never happened

Originally posted by Cassius666
For a while people thought the Nazis made lampshades out of the skin of their victims. It turned out to be false. However the Holocaust still happened, there were the burning pits the people saw and more than enough eyewitness accounts. Only because it turned out a detail about it was completely false does not mean the whole story is wrong.

Bad analogy. For one thing, for every story concerning the Holocoast that turned out to be a hoax, there was another equally horrid story that turned out to be real. There might not actually be any concrete evidence of human skinned lampshades, but there IS evidence of people collecting the tattooed skins of executed prisoners like children collecting baseball cards. We know this because Ilse Koch, the wife of the commandant of Buchenwald, did this and her own collection was used as evidence against her in her trial by US authorities.

On the other hand, the bulk of these conspiracy hoaxes are themselves based upon more hoaxes, such asn "no interceptors were scrambled", "all the WTC bomb dogs were withdrawn", "noone saw what hit the Pentagon", and other claims that can be shown to be false in a 30 second google search. Even when shown to be a hoax, the truthers simply present *another* hoax to justify why they passed off previous hoaxes, like 10,000 secret agents everywhere and the media being tightly controlled by a select few. When the rest of us show our disbelief, they present yet *another* hoax, liek how we're all slavishly listening to everything the gov't says or that we're really secret gov't agents ourselves.

Sooner or later you truthers are going to have to present *something*, other than a never ending chain of, well, nothing whatsoever. At least with the holocaust, the boxes full of gold teeth they found in German bank vaults is enough to say something really really bad happened.

www.holocaustdenialvideos.com. Watch this and you'll have an extensive knowledge of the holocaust. The camps did exist, yet people denied it at the time, just like the concentration camps today. The camps did have prisoners in them, in which they did cut their hair and confine to small baracks, however according to the holocaust deniers there were no mass gas chambers. The pictures showing emaciated prisoners was the result of typhus, which was also the reason why the prisoners had their hair cuts, this makes sense because why would you cut someone's hair prior to killing them? Why not just kill them. The story is that they wanted to use the hair to make goods to then sell, but the hair is still at the camps, same with the boots, if they wanted to use the boots, they didn't. Also, zyklon B was found in the delousing chambers but not in the gas chambers. The gas chamber at Auschwitz is an admitted reconstruction. Many more interesting facts, so know the issue before you dismiss it is unbelievable.

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Thanks I very well believed it happened. I had extensive education on the subject.

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it doesn't make sense to call it a holocaust, the genocide of American Indians was more closer to a holocaust, as the population of American Indians is greatly reduced, whereas Jews have not been eliminated. Many people say "well my gradnpa so and so was a Nazi prisoner so therefore the holocaust exists." Question: if he survived, how could it be a holocaust? The story of the holocaust just doesn't make sense, either 1) they shipped the Jews by trains into the camp to be exterminated immediately or 2) they weren't exterminated immediately and many were able to survive with tattoos in tact. If it was a combination of 1 and 2 then the Nazis weren't as efficient as they were made to be, since the pivotal part of the holocaust myth involves the methodical nature of the Nazis which would be in direct conflict with a slow holocaust. What makes more sense is that the holocaust was a scare tactic to have the Jews leave Europe and move to Palestine. There are too many stories involving contradictory death chamber stories, some involving electricified rooms and gas generated by diesel which wouldn't be as lethal or as easy as a carbon monoxide generator, plus the actual gas chambers themselves do not resemble gas chambers, the gas chamber door at Auschwitz is not air tight, it has a glass pane in it, and it locks from the inside meaning the prisoners could open it up, there was also a manhole in the middle of the gas chamber. Plus if Jews were being told they were getting a shower and instead it was gas, other prisoners would have found out eventually when the Jews that went to take a shower mysteriously never came back. Also, the walls were made of see through wire which could not have hidden the gas chamber methods. The pits where the bodies were buried were too close to wells for drinking water and the majority of people stationed at the camps were nurses, indicating it was most likely a medical camp. Plus there are the many known hoaxes surrounding the holocaust such as the skin lampshades, shrunken heads, holocaust "love stories" that turned out to be false, and Ann Frank's diary written with ball point pen.

This thread was sure made by one of those new to this board.

Its like we have to answer this wuestion over and over.

I believe the holocaust happened as humans are more than capable of this murder campaign.

Just look at teh anglo american empire today causing the gaza situation. Pure evil.

Why do people always bring up the holocaust about the truth seekers, its like the news media did this on purpose just to ridicule any truthers.

No way on earth did the american gov not know 911 was going to happen, you cannot fart in america without the gov not knowing.