NASA maps features hidden under Antarctica ice - Live Chat Nov 18 2010.

Originally posted by butcherguy
Geothermal heat source?
Must be a wicked one though.

That is the claim why Lake Vostok is not frozen below the ice... yeah a wicked one indeed. It might also mean those microbes they spotted in the ice as they drilled deeper may be alive and flourishing down there. Seems a bad idea to let them out since they been down there for 420,000 years

Of course the heat source COULD be that Atlantian Base buried down there

Originally posted by ATLien
How and when do you join the chat?

blogs.nasa.gov...

Actually it is here
www.nasa.gov...

but its not active yet

Was it only a short time and we missed it? I see no update

On Thursday, Nov. 18, IceBridge scientists will be on hand from the field to answer your questions about the mission. Joining the chat is easy. Simply visit this page on Wednesday, Nov. 17 Thursday, Nov. 18, from 1 to 2 p.m. EST. The chat window will open at the bottom of this page starting at 12:30 p.m. EST.

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Only 9 people found the chat because the link was buried at the bottom of an obsolete page!

By the time I figured this out amid the myriad distractions of motherhood, having scanned NASA TV in vain and searched the web, the chat was over.

I submitted 2 questions in overtime, asking if the public would be provided with the polar imagery that's missing from Google Earth and if they had encountered any geomagnetic, gravitational, or topographic anomalies. Maybe they will address them when the transcript is published, within 48 hrs.

The IceBridge Project has a blog here


I'm very irritated that NASA has a dozen earth observing sats in the air, yet polar imagery is near impossible to come by. I heard an astronaut on some documentary say the were instructed not to take pics of the poles.






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Notice the flight plan avoids the mystery zones

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Ice free patch in view!


Whether this is technical fantasy or fact, there is a very pleasant, reassuring (because it claims bad guys signed a treaty in 95 wanna get spiritual now), and informative series on UFO anatomy here. It claims that some UFOs are made out of super-friendly, conscious metal, and that some are being used for transport between surface and inner earth.

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I find the 'operation highjump' stories to be fascinating- especially the supposed press release to a Chilean newspaper 'El Mercurio' by Admiral Byrd in an interview with Lee van Atta where he is quoted: "Adm. Byrd declared today
that it was imperative for the United States to initiate immediate defence
measures against hostile regions. The admiral further stated that he didn't
want to frighten anyone unduly but that it was a bitter reality that in case of
a new war the continental United States would be attacked by flying objects
which could fly from pole to pole at incredible speeds."

Also, when Byrd returned to the states, he was supposedly 'hospitalized' and not allowed to give interviews. Either way, he took a tremendous amount of hardware down to Antarctica for 'Highjump', and from what I can find online, seems to have returned early, and to have lost several aircraft. Theres all sorts about 'Nazi' bases etc- great stories but no solid evidence. Interesting non the less.

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What entire region? I just checked GoogleEarth and BingMaps 3D and nothing in Antarctica is blocked out. The white out is caused by the sun's reflection off the ice.

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I've read all of the first hand accounts of Antarctic explorations including Byrd's diaries and a dozen or more accounts by men who were with Bryd. There was nothing untoward discovered by High Jump. No flying discs, no lost cities, no verdant environments. What people except for Byrd's accounts were second hand statements made by men who weren't even in Operation High Jump. This was one of the best covered Antarctic operations in history and regretfully, there was nothing unusual discovered, no missing planes, no loss of life. Before people jump to conclusions after watching a hokey video on YouTube, they might take the time to read the dozen or so books that have been written about it. For anyone wishing to delve deeper, the records of High Jump are available at NARA; the records are not classified. I read a few obscure books claiming that the German expedition to Neuschwabenland in the late 1930s. Indeed, the Germans did find a couple of ice free zones but these were completely natural and if one cares to check the coordinates of these locations on GoogleEarth, they remain largely ice free to this day. In 1957-58,virtually the entire Antarctic continent was mapped and much of it explored. Groups of men spent the entire year at various locations and not a single oddity was observed beyond what was clearly attributable to natural causes. One would expect that if there was a visible lost city or verdant environment and UFOs, they would have been documented during the International; Geophysical Year.

In the 1960s, Charles Hapgood wrote a book called 'Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings.' In this book he suggested that the certain portolan maps of the 14th through 15th centuries were more accurate than latter maps prepared by Mercator and his contemporaries and Hapgood suggested that these maps were copies of older maps representing a world wide seafaring culture. I've read Hapsgood's book and I've seen the portolan's he discusses. Map expert cartographers have challenged Hapgood's assertion and so all we can say for now is that Hapgood's interpretations remain unproven. His theory however is an intriguing one that was also independently supported by Tor Heyerdahl in his book 'Early Man and the Ocean: The Beginning of Navigation and Seaborn Civilizations.' Most historians and archaeologists reject Heydahl and Hapgood's theory. But then most also reject pre-Viking contacts between the Old and New Worlds and this most certainly in fact occurred: More than 50 Egyptian mummies with well documented provenance were tested and found to contain trace evidence of tobacco and coc aine, neither of which were known to the Old World before Columbus. Some of the mummies dated to the early second millennium BCE, which suggests that perhaps New World historians and archaeologists have underestimated the capabilities of early Old World civilizations sea faring capabilities. This however, doesn't support Hapgood or Heyerdahl's suggestion of a pre-Egyptian seafaring culture. There have been other shreds of evidence and suggestions to support these two men. For example, in E.A. Wallis-Budge's translation of the Egyptian Book of the Dead in the 1890s, he noted that the religions of Sumer and the Old Kingdom of Egypt were far too similar to be the result of casual trade contacts; he suggested an antecedent culture parent to both. This is vaguely reminiscent of the notions of Hapgood and Heyerdahl.

Obviously, this has little do to with reports of Antarctic UFOs or lost cities. If however, Hapgood, Heyerdahl, and Wallis-Budge were correct in their suggestion of a pre-Old Kingdom civilization it must have existed in a location yet explored. Perhaps the location was Antarctica but more probable was a location closer to the Near East, perhaps below the Persian Gulf, which did not flood until the early Holocene Epoch.

There is plenty to read on the subject of ancient civilizations most of it is rubbish but some of it is well worth considering further. I'll leave it to ATS viewers to discern the wheat from the chafe.

Originally posted by Kellyct1987 There was nothing untoward discovered by High Jump. No flying discs, no lost cities, no verdant environments.
Before people jump to conclusions after watching a hokey video on YouTube, they might take the time to read the dozen or so books that have been written about it.

Well that 'hokey" video on youtube showing the ice free lakes was a documentary filmed on the actual expedition by the US NA VYand those ice free valleys actually do exist.

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STILL CAN'T SEE THE POLES

Here's the data available from NEO - Nasa Earth Observations. Why that exasperating blank circle at the south pole?

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This image was compiled using data gathered by NASA's Aqua satellite on Sept. 3, 2010. Credit: NASA Goddard's Scientific Visualization Studio
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How does the Aqua satellite "see" sea ice? Microwaves. Everything on Earth’s surface -- including people -- emits microwave radiation, the properties of which vary with the emitter, thereby allowing the AMSR-E microwave sensor on Aqua to map the planet.

Ice emits more microwave radiation than water, making regions of the ocean with floating ice appear much brighter than the open ocean to the AMSR-E sensor. This difference allows the satellite to capture a sea ice record year-round, through cloud cover and the months of polar night.

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What's that dark line at the north pole?

Can anyone find any satellite visuals of the poles?

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A compilation of flight lines shows the paths of all 10 flights flown during Operation IceBridge's Antarctic 2010 campaign. Credit: Michael Studinger

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The 2010 NASA Icebridge exploration was confined to west Antarctica. Nothing over the mysterious Vostok, only high altitude flight over the pole.

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Yup it wasn't anywhere near Vostok or the ice free areas So anyone know why they called this "Ice Bridge"?

As to the dead spots over the pole, the satellites Google buys from don't fly polar orbits