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Originally posted by mryanbrown
Originally posted by RestingInPieces
If you want the liberty to get on a plane where nobody is checked, then rent or buy a plane and give away seats to random people who you don't know, announcing to everyone aboard that nobody will be checked for anything.
LOL! Because it's not like their are economic sanctions in place that make it nearly impossible to provide private flight for yourself or others. If you fly, you follow FAA 'guidelines'. It's that simple.
Because everyone believes the "right to travel" only means walking. But the "right to speech" has been infinitely elaborated on beyond it's scope.
What if I want to exercise my right to visit China? How can I get there? Walking? No. Oh I know! An automobile, those travel across the oceans right? Oh no, wait. You need a boat or airplane to get to china.
But I don't want to travel on a boat for 3+ weeks! I would like to get there using ordinary means of the time (flight). So the only reasonable way to travel to China is with an aircraft, yet it's not my right? So how can I have the absolute right to travel?
Oh that's right, my rights have been circumvented with administrative procedure which can't be legally enforced upon me, but should I wish to exercise my right, I must forgo another right.
You are ignorantly confusing rights with means. The government may give you the right to travel, but they aren't going to give you a car nor an airplane.
Basically, what you are saying is that you want an affordable way to get to the moon.
You are exactly ridiculous.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
You know the same "you can just stay home" argument applies to you. If you are so scared of dying that you feel our Constitution, the defining feature of the US, should be trashed to make you safer, just dont fly. Drive, and you can screen all your fellow passengers any way you want to.
Originally posted by BigTimeCheater
reply to post by RestingInPieces
Uh, the government doesnt give anyone rights.
Hopefully that was just a typo and you dont actually think that.
Originally posted by Gnarly
reply to post by mryanbrown
How is it coercion when you freely by the ticket at your own expense? When you can freely choose whether or not you want to be patted down? There is no one forcing you to get on their plane.
We can travel by plane if we want, but even if we take our own jet, we still have to follow rules in the air. We can use a friends jet! Our own little propeller, too! Just because we have the right to travel how we want doesn't mean it's taking our rights away when we choose a specific person to do the work for us and they have rules to protect them and us. WE PAY FOR THEIR SERVICE FREELY, WE SHOULD OBLIGE BY THEIR RULES. Let's just spend millions of dollars on a plane and not take one single precaution to ensure they stay flyable.... Ha.
We give them the money, they make sure we aren't capable of killing anyone on the plane, and we're allowed to fly on their plane. Don't like it? Go fly your own. It's literally that easy. You still have the right no matter what.
It's not just terrorism that makes security tighter, it's the random people who know how to put a home-made bomb in their shoe and coming very close to blowing up the plane. Let's let a passenger bring a few bottles of "water" on the plane, and then find out it wasn't water because there's no more plane.
Or just let everyone on the plane, NO SECURITY CHECKS AT ALL, and see just how many people fly.
Like the deer analogy, you can move out of the way, or get hit by the car. You have the freedom to choose.
Originally posted by felonius
I'll take a Zero on that test thank you!