Locked up in Prison State USA

Imagine you are living in America and this is how life functioned.

*In the morning you wake up and make your bed, grab a cup of coffee and sit in your chair. You gaze out the window to the sight of barb wired fences. You turn on the television and the public news channel is on broadcasting the speech the president just gave to college kids. The questions asked were like, “Why do you think these students love you?” and “Mr. President you are a delight, you’re policies have reinvigorated the nation, how do you respond?”

You prepare for work and walk out of room 4439 down the hall and down several flights of stairs to the work room where all the labor is divided among the people living in the facility. You receive a $100 a day. All the bathrooms are public, the food is provided by the facility officials, and you must say your pledge of allegiance to the flag before returning to your room.

You are limited to just one child and one spouse within a two bedroom apartment. A bug and camera is planted in every home. Your internet is censored and your phone is tapped. All your medical needs are free and provided for. All of the food has government regulated pesticides and you are limited to just 30 minutes of outside time per day.

But for the ‘free’ food, housing, water, electricity, and health care you are required to give the facility administrators a certain ‘fee’. Your freedoms and liberties are abolished and the administrators require you to participate and work in society, whether you want to or not. Your contribution of work is irrelevant as all people make the same income, except the administrators. You are fortunate enough to elect the administrators though but unfortunately it is just one party.

Another downfall is that there is no escape since in the name of environmentalism all Americans have been pushed into camp communities and the environment outside of these camps is strictly for the environment. If you try and escape you will be removed to a psychological unit for mental rehabilitation. Do not worry though all the risks and problems that arise in life have been abolished.*

So America is that what we want? Do we all want to hand away our freedoms for protection? Well Americans want the problems solved by government their lives to be protected they want protection from terrorism but didn’t that lead to the Patriot Act and TSA? They wanted protection from sickness so they established Medicare/Medicaid but hasn’t that led to rationing and low grade medical care? They wanted protection in old age but hasn’t that led to the government enacting policies which require forced servitude to the bureaucrats?

For every protection we ask for the government is going to want something in return. Sure we can have universal health care but what will the government want from us for administering it? We can have Social Security but what will the government want from us for administering it? For everything the people want the government to protect them from the government will increasingly call for them to pay a ‘fee’. Which is always our liberty.

Something i realized while i was locked up was this, its the same damn system we use in the regular world we live.

I think we need to make a prison song to help ease our minds.

abovetopsecret.com...

Here is my idea....

That sounds similiar to George Orwell's 1984.
Theres a few things that remind me of that in your post.

reply to post by DrumsRfun


I’ve read about George Orwell’s 1984 but that is not what inspired the post nor was my post taken from his novel.

reply to post by Misoir


Yes i see the difference....was just pointing out there are some similarities.
Basically just the government running peoples lives and telling them how they should live.

Wow, did you steal a copy of the government's playbook? Sounds just about exactly what they want from the few "catttle" they'll allow to live. After all, they need a few warm bodies to do the grunt work. How else are they going to keep the lawns of their palaces perfectly manicured? Or how else would the food be cooked, their children watched, and their trash be taken out? Certainly not by them!

So if I may, why do increased government services have to result in decreased freedoms? Seriously I do not see the connection.

You are making a huge leap in your argument, and committing several fallacies at once in your post OP. Your argument is not a good one.

I choose freedom and socialism. I choose to lead my life, strive for great heights and be rewarded if I attain it through hard work, but if I should fall, to have a reasonable safety net to keep me from dying. I will do my part to help provide that safety net for others too, even when I do not need it, because there are those that do.

I choose a government that is made of the people and answerable to the people. I choose a nation without starvation, but still with personal goals and riches to be attained when they are met. I choose a world where I can love whomever I wish, regardless of obsolete social and religious persecution (I really didn't have any problem with that myself being in a heterosexual marriage, but homosexual couples in the US cannot marry in most states.)

I choose a world where through hard work, intelligence, fortitude and skill I can be anything I want to be. I choose also a world where the least of us are still cared for by the rest of us.

I choose perfection, and I won't stop working until I get it.

reply to post by ProjectJimmy


Everything you said could easily be fulfilled through charitable giving and a sense of community. It doesn’t require forced charity or bureaucratic management but rather through the simplicity of human benevolence. I believe you are like me we want a society that is free, prosperous, hard working, just, and charitable but that is where our positions split. You believe in forced charity through forced taxation and charitable giving while I prefer a state which leaves people free to enhances the community and strengthens moral integrity and invigorates a sense of interdependence.

Nothing is done at the barrel of a gun but rather through optional charitable giving. When people are reliant upon government services it forces them into shackles of servitude to that government and they will want to collect their debt but of course they will not want you to know that debt collecting extends beyond paying taxes. When citizens are taught to have a strong sense of self-reliance mixed with interdependence it revives the communal spirit that our ancestors understood very well.

I know you have a good heart because most Socialists do but they fail to recognize that benevolence through violence is not actually good for society. It causes many ills to befall the citizens and leads to moral upheaval (and I’m not talking morality preached by fundamentalists). I believe 70-90% of people are benevolent but are removed from that sense of benevolence and community when they pay taxes and they believe those taxes are going to lazy people (which they are not).

We may disagree on the implementation but we both agree with helping society. The point of my thread was that when government provides you with a service they will charge a ‘fee’ and that ‘fee’ goes beyond just taxation. The more authority handed to government the more dangerous and tyrannical it becomes.

Originally posted by Misoir
reply to post by DrumsRfun

 

I’ve read about George Orwell’s 1984 but that is not what inspired the post nor was my post taken from his novel.

Sounds to me like the Servile State described by Hilaire Belloc.

Belloc then makes his case for the natural instability of pure capitalism and discusses how (as he believes) attempts to reform capitalism will lead almost inexorably to an economy where state regulation has removed the freedom of capitalism and thereby replaced capitalism with the Servile State, which shares with ancient slavery the fact that positive law (as opposed to custom or economic necessity by themselves) dictates that certain people will work for others, who likewise must take care of them.

reply to post by FortAnthem


I did not find inspiration, motivation, or plagiarism from anyone.

I guess we can say great minds think alike?

reply to post by Misoir


Oh and capitalism has done a GREAT job at keeping our jobs here in the states!!

Socialism is the future, it needs the proper set up and checks and balances but it is not a dog eat dog world of animals fighting and conniving for the most cheese. It is true civilization not the old world way of crooked dealings if done right.

I don't have a favorite -ism I hold above the rest, except maybe perfectionism, which is as utterly unattainable as a perfect triangle. Every -ism can be malicious when unchecked by good intentions.

To take measures against the encroaching future the OP has extrapolated from modern, popular social patterns, it is ever so apparent that a revolution is calling.

If we as Americans sit down and shut up while the corp-elitists spread hatred and world-domination in the name of MERELY our weak-willed freedom... then I'm afraid our existential necessity really is a fiction, as Nietzsche pointed out over a century ago, in different words.

Nihilism=terror=weakness, degradation, decadence. Time to deny it, yes?