To China and the world - my apoligies to your countries on behalf of our US criminal govt. PLEASE DO, page 3
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reply posted on 15-11-2010 @ 03:07 PM by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by bluestar.ranch



I dont appeal for peace. Blow our asses up if we get too pushy. Not that your governments are any less criminal than our own, China in particular is no angel. But I am sick of all the posturing, if we get too big for our britches, bring it on. Maybe it would teach my countrymen and women a lesson if we had to deal with war here on our own soil, and it disrupted the path to the mall, and maybe cut out cable TV.

Just make sure to bring the war here, to our continent. Americans easily ignore the suffering of people, including our own military, if its out of sight. So if you want war with us, bring it here. It just might make us remember that we arent pathetic, lazy, moronic consumers. It might even make humans out of us again.


reply posted on 15-11-2010 @ 03:14 PM by seagull
Originally posted by getreadyalready
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It is reckless to "dare" another country to "bring it on." Nobody wants to see a nuclear war, or even another conventional war.


Indeed, most do not. I do, sometimes, have to wonder though... Reckless rhetoric is, in its own way, is a dangerous as a war.

BUT, I contend that it is equally reckless to apologize and give the impression that we do not support our government, or that we are not united as a country. Nothing invites aggression like pathetic whining!


Agreed!!! I believe a Roman senator said it best (paraphrasing here!!): If you want peace, prepare for war. Peace is achieved by having the strength and the willingness to use it to protect yourself. But only as a last resort... The trick, I suppose, is knowing when that time has come...

Which do you think is more likely to lead to war, whimpering, whining, apologizing, and asking to please not attack us, or daring anyone to bring it on? I don't like either approach, but "Fortune favors the Bold!" Take Iran, and N. Korea as cases in point. They are weak, but they feign strength to keep their populace united and their enemies at bay.


I suppose, if those are my only choices, "fortune favors the bold" is the way to go. Doesn't mean I have to like it, or condone it. Rhetorical sabre flourishing has it's drawbacks, 'cause eventually, someones going to make you put up, or shut up. It's best, as Theodore Roosevelt said (paraphrasing, again...): "Speak softly, but carry a big stick..."

One needn't practise blustering rhetoric to get the message across.

That's the point I should have made originally...



reply posted on 15-11-2010 @ 03:23 PM by rusethorcain
reply to post by bluestar.ranch



I don't think China is going to bomb us.
We owe them too much money.

Your thread is refreshing though since I assumed it was going to be another complaint about Pres.Obama apologizing for the past actions of secret organizations, military agenda and the US in general, to other nations.
Bush's were both great patriots on a par with Columbus, John Wayne, Ronald Reagan.
(i.e. like Columbus to the Indians, and John Wayne to the Blacks)


reply posted on 15-11-2010 @ 05:50 PM by DABIGRAGU
reply to post by Lysergic



And another, this deserves it. My sentiments exactly.



reply posted on 15-11-2010 @ 07:54 PM by trentyh
reply to post by bluestar.ranch



your right however our govt removing some rights will better us down the road and if they respond with missiles we will too MAD will occur so you have no reason to fear anyone


reply posted on 15-11-2010 @ 08:29 PM by Blaine91555
reply to post by bluestar.ranch



Half the population of China lives on less than $2 per day. Those allowed to prosper are picked by the Party. The Internet is filtered or blocked. Prisons are really slave labor camps producing products. Travel is restricted. There is a permanent brown cloud of pollution over much of the country. Their rivers are cesspools. They are building old style Coal Fired Plants as fast as they can build them. They have no Free Press. They have no Free Speech.

I am all for Peace however, but think you are not very well informed. Your intentions are good, but your critical thinking device needs repair or you forgot to turn it on. I highly suggest you study China's History and read up on conditions there. Ignore the tiny area's where Tourism is allowed and look to the majority of China that is purposefully hidden from the world.
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