Originally posted by bluestar.ranch
To China and the world - my apoligies to your countries on behalf of our US criminal govt
PLEASE DO NOT BOMB OUR COUNTRY-
If USA keeps giving your country a reason to respond.... I appeal for peace instead of war.
I want to reach out to China, other countries and your governments... I will post this on ATS... Who am I to talk to your governments? I am "nobody" just one USA citizen watching the horrible crimes our USA government are doing to our people, your people and the entire world! . I personally apoligize to your goverment and ask... please try to work with the citizens of our country..Lets set up a council of peace...
I speak for most Americans.. We do not want war... no matter what our government is doing... please respond with peace and not missles...We can find a way....I am one person... Just one person... Even a Chinese proverb states: "How do you remove a mountian? you start with removing one small stone..."
Well, I am that one small stone..
I speak out for peace. Any TV radio/newspaper... I am "an average" joe... I cant lie like government.. So Interview me... I will speak the truth.... Please lets have peace, not war!
(USA government is tring to start wars....through banking, finance, removing our freedoms, inciting wars, invading other countries for selfish world controlling reasons... there are no "terrorists", starting wars just to make more money)
Our soverign freedoms are just a game to the government. America was founded on principle and freedoms.. So if there are are any other AST'ers out there... that agree with me.. Please lets keep this thread going and add your response WHY we want peace in this thread..
Lets tell our government we want peace and appeal to Chinese government to work with us citizens directly (by pass criminal element in USA govt)
ADD YOUR PLEA FOR PEACE AND KEEP THIS THREAD GOING TO CHINA!! AMERICANS ITS TIME TO SPEAK UP N-O-W
Originally posted by beenupsince2007
I do believe many people are on the same page but why can't we stand up? What needs to be done for us to push for what we know is right? Are we all just going to watch everything just fall apart? Please give your thoughts and idea's to motivate us to fix things...
Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by TheIrvy
It's not who votes that matters, but who is counting those votes. I suspect our voting system is rigged pretty much like everything else to give us the illusion of freedom.
I second bluestar.ranch's plea to China. The majority of us are peaceful, living our lives just like the Chinese do, we work, pay our bills, send our children off to school and hope they grow up strong and sensible.
The common, everyday person does not want or relish war. Our children die in wars.
Not only America, but sadly now, the entire planet is being run by a small cartel of bullies hell bent on making more money and gaining more power no matter what the expense, including armageddon.
They use our monies to build giant secret bunkers with the plan of letting the "pions" the "worthless eaters" fight it out among themselves, leaving only enough of us left to serve their every whim.
Sounds like something out of a science fiction novel............well fact is often times stranger than fiction.
When is man going to learn how fruitless and stupid war is? In plain language, war is nothing more than the organized mass killing of another "tribe" to gain their resources and land. War is orchestrated by "kings" and fought by "pawns" in the name of "Homeland Security" but in reality for power.
The average person, is nothing more than a pawn, a simple little pawn and the players that move the chess pieces around are the same family members that have been playing this game for eons.
edit on 15-11-2010 by ofhumandescent because: grammar
Apologize for the behaviour of the "US criminal govt.", or however you phrased that...?
So, are you going to apologize to the Tibetans, on behalf of the Chinese govt. next? Or to the Muslims in Eastern China being oppressed by the oh so merciful Chinese? Or the folks under house arrest in China for daring to dream of freedom from an oppressive govt. You do remember Tiananmen Square, don't you?
That my friend is as they say the crux of the situation.
And here is where the madness needs to stop completely for once and all.
Not voting is not an option, but neither is voting the lesser of two evil's.
The lesser of two evil's is still evil and that saying is the repugnant idiocy of the ignorant who are too damn lazy to do something different than complain, whine, and bitch when things are not done as they were promised.
Voting is not the last of our responsibility, it is but the first of our responsibilities.
If the lesser of two evil's is the option people would rather take, then that road leads only to more apathy, which is not only sad, it is pathetic.
If you do not like your options when voting, voting for the leat corrupt out of two corruption options only leads to slightly less corruption.
Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,
Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,
Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,
Whereas it is essential to promote the development of friendly relations between nations,
•All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
•Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
To call your viewpoint just slightly one sided would, of course, be an understatement.
Originally posted by OmegaLogos
reply to post by ghostsoldier
Disclaimer: I got some information WRONG in my OP! I apologize for this lack of oversight! Stern Hu worked for Rio Tinto and not BHP.
Explanation: St*r for you!
Look I know China is no saint OK!
And I did vote the Greens in the last local elections [OL is in Canberra ACT] even though I was a long term commited Labour voter!
Also money and economy is an idea cooked up by humanity and we can and do change and tweak it as we see fit! Lets write OFF Greeces debt ect.
Lets give China ALL our trade secrets so they don't have to steal them! Lets become full allies of China so they and we can spend our military budgets on protecting ourselves from extra terrestrial aliens as Stephen Hawking just reminded us all of!
Personal Disclosure: Australia is already both for and against China [in various contexts] and this isn't ever going to change, but the various biases one way or the other just may if a majority of us can see them as our fellowhuman brothers and sisters instead of some kind of yellow peril!
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by bluestar.ranch
Did you go to the Obama school of foreign relations?
STOP APOLOGIZING FOR THE UNITED STATES!! STOP APOLOGIZING FOR ME!!
I for one, and there are a whole bunch more like me, we are extremely proud of our country. In less than 300 years we have risen from a few boatloads of homeless people and natives to the greatest country on the Earth!! We have revolutionized the worlds politics, the worlds economy, the worlds industry, and the level of human rights in the world!! We subsidize practically every other country on this Earth with our goodwill! We learned the hard lessons of religious tolerance, slavery, and suffrage in just a handful of decades while other countries have struggled with it for millenia without getting it corrected!
Listen OP, and Listen World:
Do not believe for one second that the whining panderers are representative of the population of the United States! Do not believe for one second that the common American citizen would apologize for being an American! Do not believe for one second that anybody outside of the press outlets and a handful of pansies like Obama are scared of your terrorists, your plagues, or your bombs! Here in America we are far more worried about the relationship between Donovan McNabb and the Washington Redskins than we are the relationship between Christians and Muslims. Here in America we are far more worried about whether or not the local store will run out of ice on 4th of July, than we are worried about 4th of July offending someone! We are far more worried about DWI laws on New Year's Eve than we are worried about some fake or moronic terrorist setting off another smoke bomb in Times Square. Here in America, our Junior High Kids in the Midwest can make far more effective improvised devices than those publicized on the television sets from well-funded terrorist groups!
No, we Americans are not sorry. We are not sorry for a single thing that our duly elected, representative government of the people, for the people, and by the people has done! We may not always agree with every action, but we all agree that this is the best system on Earth, and we live in the Greatest Country on Earth, and nobody is willing or capable of taking away our identity, our pride, or our Freedoms!
LOL! please. there's no such thing as 'the greatest nation in the world' anymore.