Originally posted by Praxilla
Very interesting topic, I've been reading up on it the last couple days to catch up on my ATS news!

I was a passenger aboard the Carnival Splendor that was "dead in the water" for 3 days before being towed into San Diego's port.

After the initial "fireless" smoke, that took out 3 main aft engines we were left drifting in the sea for a day and 1/2 before the tow boats came to help pull us in. During this time however the military surveillance was massive. The US Coast Guard was first on the scene, along with the Mexican Navy, then our Navy, the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier, and the cruise director also said a submarine. All of this military presence stayed with our ship. with jets and helicopters flying overhead often, the whole way back into San Diego's port. I've seen cruise ships have trouble, on tv, before (this was my first cruise!), but I don't recall them having such a strong military convoy to accompany them.

I just wonder if this ties in with the suspected Chinese missile, as it was in our proximity. We will probably never know, but I could have been smack dab in the middle of an international incident.

And, btw, even though there was reports of Spam being served, I can say that we never saw any, Poptarts either for that matter, and I would have loved one!

Originally posted by Human_Alien

Originally posted by Praxilla
Very interesting topic, I've been reading up on it the last couple days to catch up on my ATS news!

I was a passenger aboard the Carnival Splendor that was "dead in the water" for 3 days before being towed into San Diego's port.

After the initial "fireless" smoke, that took out 3 main aft engines we were left drifting in the sea for a day and 1/2 before the tow boats came to help pull us in. During this time however the military surveillance was massive. The US Coast Guard was first on the scene, along with the Mexican Navy, then our Navy, the USS Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier, and the cruise director also said a submarine. All of this military presence stayed with our ship. with jets and helicopters flying overhead often, the whole way back into San Diego's port. I've seen cruise ships have trouble, on tv, before (this was my first cruise!), but I don't recall them having such a strong military convoy to accompany them.

I just wonder if this ties in with the suspected Chinese missile, as it was in our proximity. We will probably never know, but I could have been smack dab in the middle of an international incident.

And, btw, even though there was reports of Spam being served, I can say that we never saw any, Poptarts either for that matter, and I would have loved one!

I understand there were about 4500 passengers. Were you people aware that someone was dead on board (I just posted a news item I found this morning)?
Was someone carried out in a body bag?
The article clearly says this person died ON BOARD, not 'was on board and died after wards' because after all, that wouldn't be news-worthy if you think about it.
So, what's going on?
Any connection?

The article clearly says this person died ON BOARD, not 'was on board and died after wards' because after all, that wouldn't be news-worthy if you think about it.

Originally posted by boondock-saint

LA Plane Theory is blown out of the sky
US missed Chinese Missile

Well I have to admit, the old adage, a picture is worth
a thousand words is very true. I have been studying
on this event for a whole week. I think I have seen every
pic and video there is and twisted and turned every one
of those pics in an editor hoping to find the smoking
gun for this missile theory. And after a week, I found it.

The above image is from the helicopter video. It is unedited
except for color and highlight layers I took out to bring those
background contrails into better view.

As you can see, there are 2 contrails in this image.
1 big one in the foreground and 1 smaller one in the background.
And what sealed the smoking gun for me is when they
intersected each other and a big cloud of smoke where
they intersected.

This is my theory of the timeline of events.

1) Chinese launch Ballistic Missile from Jin Sub.

2) US Air Defense boards lit up like a Christmas Tree
with early warnings.

3) US Launches smaller missile to intercept Chinese
missile. See how the US Missile contrail is much
smaller. It's probably a PAC-II.

4) US Missile intercepts and explodes near Chinese
Missile but does not destroy it. But it does knock
it off it's trajectory, thus the sharp corresponding
course changes after the explosion.

5) Chinese Missile continues to target.

6) US Gov denies a missile launch cuz they
are embarrassed they didn't save America
from this aggression. Had this been designed
to inflict serious damage to the US. They would
have succeeded in penetrating American Defense.

7) Once again, the US Air Defense is red-faced.
last time it was the US Navy.

Sorry folks, it was a Chinese Missile
not US808 from Hawaii.
The second intersecting contrail confirms it,
unless you think the US is trying to shoot
down commercial airliners?