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LA Plane Theory is blown out of the sky - US missed Chinese Missile

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posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 12:42 AM
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1) Proof that people are being made to fear China...or feel negatively about it?


I cannot view the video..I will accept (at this time)that the person reporting is stating what you are saying. Where is your proof that people believe him? Or is this a theory? now you state they are being led to believe..before you stated

Already people are angry about China,
These statements imply different things.



Wanna check how many times people started threads on here, or posted replies in threads where they either claim or suggest China did it?


Why don't you tell me ..You are the one claiming. If you are claiming it is a theory ..I am fine with that. By the way, saying you believe something and stating it as fact are two different things.


2) Evidence that suggests the US dollar won't always be the world's reserve currency...and why that's a good thing?


So this is just a theory..you stated it as fact and did not cite your source. Now you cite your source and state it as theory?


Financial melt down (and resulting devaluation of the US dollar)
b) Have you heard China/Russia/India lately? They made it pretty clear that they want a new reserve currency...like a basket of currencies.
c) Oh, and there's of course the head of the world bank saying it directly:


I am not sure what is refuting? Even if I accept that head of the world bank said he wants it..how does that make it a fact that it will happen?

Peace




posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 12:58 AM
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It will eventually happen if the US is the only country who's against it...and so far that's the case.

If you ever studied economics, this makes total sense...which is why the Worldbank as well as many internatioinal financial institutions have been pushing for it. China's pushing for it, India is, Russia has been since the crisis started...and they're gaining momentum as it's clear the dollar will continue to decrease in value. Money is a powerful motivator, and longterm the US can't stand against the rest of this world in this matter.

So yeah, so far it's not a fact because the US dollar hasn't been replaced as the world's reserve currency. But from what other governments are pushing for, supported by economic analysts who favor this, it's pretty clear that the US dollar won't remain the reserve currency forever.

Why do you think the price of gold has gone up so much? Because people prefer it over the dollar at the moment, because they don't trust the value of the dollar. Unfortunately, gold is a bad replacement for many reasons...but it's a clear indication people are looking for a replacement.

As for threads where people accuse China:

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 01:04 AM
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response to edited portion of your original post


And the fact that China's pissed about the US devaluing their currency is NOT evidence that they would fire a missile as a "warning". Both parties know a war wouldn't serve either party. China wouldn't get its money back, and the US would spend trillions in a war they can't afford unless someone loans them money...my guess is, China won't lend the US money to fight a war against China


Again..mere speculation on the outcome of these tensions.


my guess is, China won't lend the US money to fight a war against China


finally you state that it is your opinion..thank you.

The Op that wrote this and the other threads clearly stated it was a theory. You questioned how so many state something as fact when it hasn't been proven... then you go on to state many things that are not fact but merely your opinion..even if it is an informed opinion (or not)...it is still an opinion.

Peace



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 01:07 AM
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I am not arguing your theory..that is not really the topic...I am merely pointing out that you are guilty of what you are accusing others of...namely stating things as fact when they are merely opinion.

Peace



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 01:08 AM
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Rick Warren's 12 original in-camera images from a fixed viewpoint:

contrailscience.com...

I've studied these at some length, and would be happy to explain any questions about them.

Also see the 11 second proof:

www.youtube.com...

Bit abrupt, but you can see how a contrail at 5 degrees from the plane track can look very different when viewed from a sharp angle. Scrub through it.



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 04:58 AM
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May be the US just launched a missile by mistake and are afraid to admit it
It’s unlikely to be a Chinese missile, as this could be missed construed as an act of war. Why bother flexing your muscles when you can sink the US economically





posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 08:14 AM
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It takes a very big man to do what I am about to do.
You may wanna listen up cuz u might not hear it
again for a very long while


After very careful scrutiny of the pics of Rick Warren
in a photo editor I have come to a new conclusion.
The pics are authentic indeed. I found no traces
of tampering or overlaying all the way down
to the pixel level. Other than a few anomolies
which I could attribute to shutter speed and/or
digital imaging flaws they are flawless.

My sincerest apologies go out to Rick Warren
and Contrail Science. From the evidence I saw
in the original pics, their work on the flight path
of UPS902 was flawless. I will have to say
good job to them. I even saw the puke brown UPS
color on the plane (no, I didn't say that, lol).

Now, on to my story, it seems that I did my
original assessment with some flawed photos.
Sometimes that happens when you are in a rush
to archive and store anything and everything about
a particular event. So it was basically my haste and
flawed pics which caused the improper hypothesis.

My apologies also go out to Phage, Weedwhacker,
Outkast Searcher and quite a few others who were on
the plane theory bandwagon. Nobody likes to be wrong
especially me. But in this particular case, you were
right and I was wrong. Make sure you save this post
so you can remind me of it in the future
lmao

I yield to the plane theory. The LA Missile Video
has been confirmed by me to be UPS902.
Please disregard any previous evidence or
statements by me to the contrary.

I am a man of truth, courage and honor
which is why you are reading this statement
instead of hearing silence. I would never lead you
astray knowing it to be a lie. And this
is the main reason why I am here on ATS
is to find the truth in all matters.

God bless you all and
I hope you forgive me
for being wrong and
for being a jerk.

boon

ps: I just wonder if those UPS Pilots
know just how much controversy they
have caused??? lmao



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 09:25 AM
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I really enjoyed reading your post, as it was a great example of the courage of humility, after one learns by sifting through the evidence and arguments presented by others and changes one's opinion.

I hope others were so enlightened by the discussion, and in the least learned something new about contrails, atmosphere, and optics, for example.

Another
and a smile
for you, and I'ld send you a big kiss, too, but I don't see the emoticon ....BTW, I will forgive you your opinion of the UPS color



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 09:47 AM
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i'm not so optimistic like you, i wanna to see full original viddy
would anyone say i'm too presumptuous?



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 09:49 AM
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As a supporter of Boon i too now say and agree, and also submit to the same people u mentioned. it was a plane.



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 10:15 AM
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Originally posted by desert
BTW, I will forgive you your opinion of the UPS color

lol
u have NO idea how disheartening it was for me
to see that ugly brown color on that object when
i zoomed in about 250%. So unless a foreign gov
is spray painting their missiles the same color
as UPS trucks, I'm fairly certain we're ok ....
for now anyway


But folks are more than welcome to voice
their opinions. Just 4 hrs ago ... I was on their
side so I can really say ...
been there .... done that ..... and
have the T-Shirt too

oh and the T-shirt is an ugly brown color too
hahahahaha



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by SarK0Y
reply to post by boondock-saint
 

i'm not so optimistic like you, i wanna to see full original viddy
would anyone say i'm too presumptuous?

my friend, u r more than welcome to
form and support your own opinion,
I highly support critical thinking and I think
the original video is posted somewhere in this
thread. Compare and scrutinize to ur hearts
content


boon



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 10:48 AM
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A ton of lost respect was regained through this single post.. I apologize if I was rude at points.. It was just frustrating that I could not get the parties involved to answer any questions.

It does take a big man to admit he was wrong. I wonder if Black contains the necessary tools to do the same.

I am even contemplating going through the thread and starring your posts to show my regret over my demeanor at times.
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posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 10:50 AM
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Star for you Boon, if others could admit when they were wrong about stuff this world would be a better place.


Nothing wrong with presenting an argument like you did, but to concede and even apologise once learning the truth shows signs of a good, honest person.
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posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 10:54 AM
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Doesn't look like 2 vapor trails merging, doesn't look like a missile plume, doesn't look like 2 missile plumes with a failed interception, it looks like an aircraft contrail, it did from the moment I saw it, and I've seen enough videos of launches at Vandenburg to know the difference. As for a failed interception, meh, even the high altitiude detonation of a conventional would register on one the myriad of seismic detectors surrounding LA.

For one thing, if you watch the video it simply doesn't propagate with sufficient speed to be a missile, while all the photoshop experts feverishly analyze the image for clues, the question of velocity seems to have been completely missed - it's just too slow, WAY too slow, even with the perspective of high altitude.

Now the Phoenix "launch" - that's the truly interesting one, and yet the propeller heads all seem to be fascinated with this one for some reason.

Epic fail with misdirection IMO.

As you were.



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 11:02 AM
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NOW, go back and read the thread!!!


Tom

OH Yeah...as you were.
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posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by tomdham
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NOW, go back and read the thread!!!


Tom

lmao

i was thinking the same thing
but wasn't gonna say it

hahahaha



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by Resurrectio
A ton of lost respect was regained through this single post.. I apologize if I was rude at points.

naaah
no apology necessary

I'm kinda like an ole bulldog,
when I latch on
it's almost a death grip
and it's hard as hell to pry me off.
lmao

it's all in a day at ATS

best wishes

boon



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 01:03 PM
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I think the original video is posted somewhere in this thread.

heh, my friend, most curious moment is why story was aired out
if it was real plane, pentagon & other gov. agencies have been looked so foolish + mainstream has behaved as sabotage agents, so perfidiously
missile or whatever else, but no airplane makes gov. agencies to have looked as morons again
Elder Brothers, help those OILigophrenic children to switch'ir brains on



posted on Nov, 18 2010 @ 02:30 PM
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Fair play to you.







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