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Originally posted by onehuman
ugh, I cant stand it anymore. I have refrained from every post about Gays I have come across since I have been a member...
Stop the madness, I mean really.... does it Really matter in the Big picture? Yes, some are genetic, Yes, some are just exploring, Yes, some had one cocktail to many and whatever happened.
No matter how you look at it, ALL these people are or were just going about their daily lives. Perhaps it really is meant to be a Normal thing and no Big Deal.
Me thinks some folks really need to lay off the guilt trips embedded into them since birth and just live and let live where ever their lives may take them for that particular day.
How do you correct it?
those who are convinced that being gay is a state of being,
but it can be changed, if yuo decide thats what you want to do.
Originally posted by LordBucket
reply to post by dontreally
How do you correct it?
If it is simply a learned condition, associative conditioning can be used to train new preferences and behaviors.
If it is an energy flow condition, it is more complex. Gender resembles electron flow in a circuit. If you put two negative leads into contact with each other, current does not flow. It is possible for a person of one biological gender to possess an energy flow that leads to an oposite-gender voltage. In such cases, simple change of preference through conditioning will not change the underlying condition. The energy flow must be addressed.
In any case, I would recommend against perceiving these things as conditions that are "broken" and in need of "correcting." I would recommend self examination by an individual to choose what sort of nature they want to have, and then seeking to acquire it.
edit on 14-11-2010 by LordBucket because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LordBucket
reply to post by dontreally
those who are convinced that being gay is a state of being,
but it can be changed, if yuo decide thats what you want to do.
Yes, being gay is a state of being. And yes, it can be changed, as you say...if that's what you want to do. A person who is gay and wants not to be can alter themselves to no longer be gay. And a person who is straight and wants not to be can alter themselves to no longer be straight.
But "if that's what you want to do" is a stronger motivator than "if that's what somebody else wants you do."
I think that encouraging homosexuality is probably not a healthy direction for society. It is convenient when biological gender, trained preference and energy flow all agree with each other. Sort of like people who happen to really enjoy working out and genuinely prefer healthy foods have an easier time staying fit than people who don't. It doesn't make sense to encourage homosexuality any more than it makes sense to encourage people to lead sedentary lives and eat nothing but candy. But on the relative scheme of things, these don't need to be big problems.
Originally posted by thewarehouse
You don't know the difference between a sexual orientation and an fetish.
Originally posted by KilgoreTrout
Originally posted by thewarehouse
You don't know the difference between a sexual orientation and an fetish.
Excellent point and spot on (in my opinion).
Its not one of those things which can happen in a flash.
It takes a life time of repitition.
Its a very delicate matter and can take a lifetime, but its worth the effort.
Not to mention how dirty and unhealthy it is for you
If i can keep myself away from pornography,
than a gay person can keep himself from having anal sex
Originally posted by Hefficide
As a heterosexual male I simply have to ask...
Why would somebody who self identifies as "gay", "straight", "bi", or "celibate", or any other variant, want to alter their self-identity? I understand that there are probably people who "go through a phase" and are confused about things but these people aren't in any of the above categories. They are in a state of finding their own self-definition.
I know who and what I am and if anyone comes along and tries to tell me that I am not, or should not be "me" is in store for a major war. And social pressures, opinions, or ideas won't matter one iota to me.
It kind of amazes me that we, as a species, seem to have this urge to change anyone who doesn't share all of our own beliefs and outlooks and to assume that just because a person is different, they are wrong.
Another man being gay doesn't make me gay. Neither does my being straight make him straight.
~Heff