Afraid Of Dying, page 2


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reply posted on 13-11-2010 @ 02:10 PM by Tarrok
reply to post by OzWeatherman



I agree with OZ.

I don't have any issues about the thought of dying. We all perish at some point. We don't know when it occurs, and it's really terrible when it comes early leaving dreams, wishes and desires unfulfilled. Nevertheless, we have no power to change whatever happens.

I guess I don't mind death because I haven't built myself any illusions about the afterlife. I don't know what happens after we die and as such I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. Sure, fading into oblivion as my grandmother thinks would suck, and so would burning in some sort of hell because I didn't believe in a specific faith. Yet, I live my life in the best possible way. I try to improve myself in positive ways. I'm not a perfect person and I dare you to point someone out that doesn't have a vice of some kind, yet I try my best.

And that's all anyone can expect of us. This is a big topic with many many many avenues of research you can go down. I'm afraid I, or anyone else here, can't ease your mind for you. This is a topic each one of us needs to confront within ourselves. I'm still trying to figure things out too!

My only advice would be to follow what feels right for you in your life and to focus on each day as it happens. I've wasted a few years of mine and now I'm trying to make up for it. I don't see it as a bad thing, it's just another stepping stone in our journey of life. Stay optimistic, realize the good in things (we like to focus on the negative or things we DON'T have) and pursue your interests.



And if all that fails, we're all here for you, buddy.


reply posted on 13-11-2010 @ 02:54 PM by ofhumandescent
reply to post by Diluted



From my own experience as a nurse, dying is the hard part, the physical body fighting for that last breath.

Once, what is called the soul, the energy force passes - lifts out of - leaves - there is only a empty shell.

With one woman, I was leaving the room to get the head nurse and as I crossed the doorway, I felt like the air around me hugged me, a gentle pressing in and than gentle release. I think I felt her last breath and or her soul leaving?

With others I have felt a, the only good word that describes this is energy, lift out of, take leave of the physical body. With younger people the energy force seems to feel stronger compared to old people.

Now according to Einstein, energy never totally "dies" it changes form.

I lost my mother at 10 to lung cancer, she was 53. We were very lucky because she was diagnosed, operated on and passed within two weeks. There was no chemo, no radiation, no wasting away or pain, she was here one week and gone the week after.

I do not fear my own death, (dying might be a little scary as I don't like pain). I do fear the abandonment, the leaving of those loved ones that might go before me.

Death, the loss of a loved one's touch, words and presence is a real bummer.

But, I don't think we truely die or dissolve into nothingness.

I do hope when I die, I go back to the whole known as "god" and not have to go through countless incarnations and all this bs again.

One of my patients was a old lady that had celebrated her 100th birthday. The next day, I sat with her holding her hand and I said, "Well you've made it one hundred years, hopefully you'll have a lot more." She replied, "Honey, I've lived on this ball of dirt for now over a century, I am really tired and am ready to go." After she whispered this, she sighed and I felt her energy force just simply lift out and gently leave. She was indeed ready.

Each death I have witnessed was unique and different because each energy force, soul, is unique and different, but I have felt a energy force numerous times so there's more to us than this physical body.

I think we simply go from being a spiritual body trapped in a third dimensional body to being free of this flesh container and go on to another dimension.

We are all here for a purpose. Your job is to find out what that purpose is and embrace and fulfill that purpose.

I hope this helps make you feel better.

There is more to you than what is starring back at you when you look in the mirror. That body you are lugging around is just a shell, not the real you.

Enjoy each and every day you have. Live, laugh and love. Don't spend useless time hating, seeking revenge or being sad and thinking about death.

My husband's father dropped dead at 44 of a heart attack. So my husband promptly quite smoking (his father smoked), he also quite eating high cholestrol foods, started running 6 days out of 7 and saw a doctor every year. Two years ago they found a leak around his aeorta valve, this happened from when he was nine and had scarlet fever. Normally this is hard to diagnose but he simply complained about not being able to get a better running time and that comment made our doctor investigate further with more test that found the leak. So find a good doctor, do what your told and keep a mental note on your health.

He went in for open heart surgery. He is now 66 and has survived his father by 22 years. He watches his weight, does exactly what the doctor tells him and follows the protocol for optimum health.

The heart surgeon said that while he was rooting around in there, he checked over his arteries and they were cleaner than most 30 year olds..............my husband has been on cholestrol lowering medicine for years because even though he did everything recommended, he naturally had high cholestrol (many things are genetic, his father had high cholestrol).

I am 58 and have survived my mother by 5 years. I don't smoke, she did and died of lung cancer.

If you fear an early death, than keep check of what your parents and grandparents died of and stay on top of it.

Life is a precious gift. If you are lucky enough to have a pc, a roof over your head, food in your belly, a warm, dry, secure place to sleep and clean water you are quite lucky.

And who knows, by the time you hit old age, medical science may have already extended life even longer than now.

If you really fear death, don't smoke, if you have an addictive personality than don't drink or do drugs, switch that addiction to exercise, eat healthy, take vitamins, get regular medical check ups and don't take unnessary risks.

Lastly, and in my own humble opinion, I don't believe in a heaven or hell, I think we either incarnate again like progressing in school from grade to grade or go back to being a part of the whole not losing our memories or that which makes us each a unique individual, but we truely never die, our energy just changes form.

edit on 13-11-2010 by ofhumandescent because: typo error



reply posted on 13-11-2010 @ 03:01 PM by Robert Reynolds
reply to post by ra.ra3

I've thought of that a lot recently, but never really ended up with a satisfactory answer...errrr, you've ruined my entire post now. No, hang on - they end up with us in the 'soul pool' but their souls aren't particularly significant, I mean when was the last time you ever read a first class piece of literature that's been written by an insect? When was the last time you've heard a worthwhile piece of music composed by an insect?

That's the best I can do, I'm afraid.


reply posted on 13-11-2010 @ 03:12 PM by Diluted
reply to post by ofhumandescent



Thank you. That was a good read. I appreciate everyone so far being honest and actually taking an honest look at themselves about this situation.

I enjoyed the one person who said to use it as an advantage - everyday live to the fullest because of the fear of death -

This could go so many ways, arguing with silly nonsense about if aliens prove this or dispute that - yet, I liked how everyone has just stayed course and really answered the question of: How do you comfort your self knowing you will one day die?

Thanks all



reply posted on 13-11-2010 @ 03:34 PM by fizzy1
Originally posted by human32826
reply to
post by Diluted



The big joke of life is no body gets out alive.

I want my children to live enough to know love and happiness,...but other than that I have no fear,...."today is a good day to die." i do what i can in a day and let it go.

watched people die in front of me and have held the hand of strong men in there last moments many deaths arround me my whole life.

I am not afraid to die and be nothing if that is the case.
I am 100% all the time I can do no better than I do.
I would die to save any human and I am proud of my life.

I fear nothing except misunderstanding.

As for god I spit in the face of the BS thought of the set up of "If you love me I will let you kiss my toes for eternity ,if not you fry.
I would never set my children up as such.
I wouldn't break my childs leg to tell him not to run in the road.
god IS fear of death.

I will live to best of my ability until I die.

I will die and maybe it will be today,.....so what.



Well said and well written. Very few times do i ever read anything on ATS that resonates with me like your reply to the OP.

As far as my own advice it would be much of the same as you have written and to say that i personally have experienced the first stage of death. That unconcousness right aftere your heart stops. The enetering into that darkness. I didnt experience any bright lights or anything fro that matter but my heart was only stopped for less than a minute. Maybe i just wasnt gone long enuf. The point is that it was the most peaceful and realxing thing i have ever experienced. It felt welcome. It felt natural. I was not afraid as i knew my heart was slowing down and was going to stop. I didnt know exactly what was wrong with me but i knew what was going to happen and i was not afraid. It was the feeling of waking up. That feeling of being so perfectly still and asleep that i hated returning from. I didnt like it. I can honestly say that. I was upset if you will that i was back. At first i was amnesic from the lack of oxygen to my brain. I wasnt sure where i was or what had happened but i remember that stillness. I can recall it even now and its beautiful.

Do not fear death. For that matter do not fear anything because nothing is greater on this earth to your existence than death and if death is not to be feared then deither is anything else. This is what i learned. I used to be much like you. My fear and anxiety of my own mortality consumed me for many years. I had all sorts of symptoms associated with anxiety and it plagued me in my 20's and 30's. Now i am free of that. I am not afraid anymore and as far as my perspective on god goes, i am much like the guy i quoted here. I was once a devout christian but i started looking at the religion with a critical eye and suspicion and i am no longer a follower of the faith. What is god? I dont know. I dont even know if he exists. I also know i am not going to know definitively if he exists before i leave this earth. I am no longer consumed with finding an answer because there isnt one my friend. If there was one universal creator then there it would be the one universal answer to that great question and there would be no need for the multiple religions on the earth. The fact that there are so many people believing so many different things about god or the creator of life here says that noone knows the truth. Noone. God if he exists may have tried to express himself to mankind many times in history but we as humans have not been able to grasp the full concept of what it is and so therefore we do our very fallible best to express the meaning of god in religion. I do not knowck it to those who find comfort in it because it is a big wrnog to take hope from any man regardless of how blind they may be. What brings light to your world might be darkness to me.

As one other person said you are a searcher and if you live long enuf you will find it. It would be so nice to say such sweet things like your going to get ther eor find your path or find the rainbow etc etc but the truth of life is that some of us find it and some dont. Some die long before they do and are cutoff from enlightenment. Tragedy exists and so it may be. So with that i will say i wish you the best and hope you find what your looking for and most importantly you find the peace i have found. The peace to be ok with your mortality and not to worry about what is beyond. As far as if we just cease to exists well then the turth of that is you wont care because you wont know. Kinda like you worrying about growing up and being succesful in life before you were ever even concieved. You had and have no knowledge of a time before you were you so its doubtful you ever cared about anyting in life before you had life. Such is how it may be once you are deprived of said life. So that makes it even more important to be the best you can while your alive because once its over its truly over. ALl that will be left of you is what you leave behind. If you follow the christian way of thinking it truly doesnt matter what you do during your life so long as at some point you ask for forgiveness.


reply posted on 13-11-2010 @ 04:53 PM by Sinter Klaas
reply to post by Robert Reynolds



I keep hearing the comment you gave. Energy does not die or disappear it stays forever.... Why shouldn't we ?

I believe energy only lives on ( pun intended ) as energy. The form it comes in will change.... Usually by some bigger energy that needs to consume smaller parts of energy... As food. The energy remains yet form gets annihilated. Why shouldn't we ?

I've never felt like a bigger chicken after a couple of chicken wings.... Do you ?

Please understand I do not criticize you, and not even this particular comment.
It's just another more logical option.


reply posted on 13-11-2010 @ 04:55 PM by anonymousanonymous
reply to post by theWolfInsideMe



Yes! Yes! YES. Death is a necessity! Without death there can't be life. Without pain there can't be true happiness - as what is there to be happy about, if all you know is good?

Sorry for being a parrot. But yeah, that's great. Star.
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