Originally posted by weedwhacker
SO, this mining...robotic only? Remote control from Earth? Or, conducted by Humans on site?
Well that is a tough question... but I think we are looking at robotic at the moment. I suspect it was 'hands on' at the beginning to set it up, but
everything I am seeing now leads me to think it is robotic, including the return shipments. Just need to look at the pilotless x-37B and the Russian
Progress series robotic cargo ships to get an indication. Also one of the NAVY astronauts I was 'hooked up' with as a result of the Lunar Orbiter
McMoon fiasco... is the current NAVY/NASA specialist in robotics. He also hold two of Russia's highest space awards
So yeah... I would go with robotics
Here are the tubes they are developing at Kirtland AFB to insert below ground (I never did find out what the huge machine is under the camo tent
Here is one of the laser robot mining drills being tested in a mine on Earth
In the Copernicus crater we found this (yeah I know many will see only blurry rocks, but the Borg spotted it too
Also the bucket excavators made by NORCAT are all designed to be robotic... in fact the whole regolith scooping project is set up that way
Abstract: The Multi-Purpose Excavation Demonstrator (MPED) is a commercial effort and a third generation of technology, following Bucket Wheel
Excavator and Bucket Ladder Excavator work by the Colorado School of Mines. The MoonrakerTM is an industrial instantiation, designed to be
commercially viable. The proof-of-concept machine is currently under construction.
Here is NASA's version explained
In this image near Tsiolkowsky Crater on the farside Jack spotted this
That 'lobate' area looks like fresh movement of a lot of dirt. Many astronomers have reported seeing craters filled in and other weird TLP's for
decades and NASA has them all listed. But this lobate area also has two anomalies (see below) Now when LRO came on the scene and they asked for
requests, we sent in a request to look at this are 'for geological reasons' We lucked out and it was one of the early requests. We were looking for
signs of earth movement. Well ArMap looked at the pics as well and guess what? all sorts of boulders have moved in that region leaving tracks
Here is the big picture
If on site, how are they surviving for extended stays, beyond the ~14 days or so that Apollo flew? Life support facilities. Supplies. The radiation
IS a problem, for extended stays...unless there's adequate protection.
Jury is still out on that whole radiation thingie
But then maybe Gene Roddenberry got his ideas for the Enterprise's shields from NASA
ACTIVE SHIELDING CONCEPTS FOR THE IONIZING RADIATION IN SPACE
How do they get in/out? I mean, the crater walls and rim, where are indications of any activity in or out, to bring equipment in and product out.
When was the last time you monitored activity in Copernicus crater?
Enquiring minds, and all......
Inquiring minds usually do more than just post in forums with the same old 'official' versions. Inquiring minds dig deep for clues, make phone calls
to key people and write letters to get actual documents... before jumping to conclusions and saying "it ain't so!"
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