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Aliens = ETs = EBEs = Pleidians = Reptilians = Annanukis = malicious Jinns = Devils = evil spiritual

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posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 02:09 PM
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Many generations before you hold the same speech than yours and look at their end:

Pharaoh with Moses, the Pharisians with Jesus, the Romans and the Arabic tribes with Muhammad... They are now deep underground because of their denial and unjustice.

Don't you get that I am truly providing you a fair warning? I am not the ennemy, you're your own ennemy.



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 02:31 PM
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There is nothing in his “research” other than unfounded supposition and belligerent accusation based on religious bias.

Beamish, you said it brother. Lets talk about facts. there are different kinds of facts, you know. There are:
Hard Facts: Facts that have available evidence in the form of documentation, material objects, witnesses.
Soft Facts: Facts that have witnesses, and perhaps some documentation, photos, undocumented photo/video evidence. Cannot be proved beyond doubt, but may be so.
Ultra Soft Facts: These are "facts" that are wholly made up, inserted into existing documents, planted, posed in blogs, forums, and other web sites. No physical evidence at all, but such a vast rumor that many people believe it, and some even remember it, (false memory)

I don't trust any video or photo taken from a cell phone. I do not have "beliefs," in that no facts, hard, soft, or otherwise are stored, or hard wired into my brain. My brain works on a multi, inter dimensional sort of way, I have ideas. New ideas are investigated and filed if shown to be true. Old ideas are discarded if shown to be false by new information and input. I don't believe any "book," be it the Christian version or the Muslim, or Jewish versions have the ultimate truth, or even the truth for the individual beings who think in this manner. I have read many books, including the bible(s) (there are many, not just one) and other books on religion also. I simply cannot take one over the others, or one at all, for what is written is written by men, not by any God. Ancient men had ideas, just as I do, and they have agendas too. The things they saw had to be described using current language and point of collective knowledge at the time. In other words, if a spacecraft from another world landed today we would mostly all know what is was, even though our individual description would be different, according to religious beliefs, (that word again) and current knowledge of such phenomena.
If the same event happened in Ancient Egypt, say during the First Dynasty, it would be described much differently.



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 02:36 PM
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Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
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Many generations before you hold the same speech than yours and look at their end:

Pharaoh with Moses, the Pharisians with Jesus, the Romans and the Arabic tribes with Muhammad... They are now deep underground because of their denial and unjustice.

Don't you get that I am truly providing you a fair warning? I am not the ennemy, you're your own ennemy.


Nothing you are saying is factual. You know just as much as I know about all this alien and God stuff. I feel your threads are becoming a witch hunt about ths Maitreya person, which is fine (your opinion), but why do we need so many with the same idea in all of them?



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 02:52 PM
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How do you know that the bad ones aren't really the ones claiming to be GOD, and trying to stray you away from the ones trying to free us. Saying there bad and lying. What better way to sway opinion than to say the one who's offering freedom is evil and if you dont get away you will be lost forever. I remain to be skeptical as to whom is telling the truth. Once I know the full truth of things ill make a choice. I dont trust any being claiming to be GOD. As far as I know there idea of heaven is humanity in incubators hooked up to a matrix of illusion to use them for there own reasons. Telling us to obey rules and regulations or we will have eternity of pain. Trick us into false security to use us.



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by NuclearPaul

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
We will not know when the end is, we will not know who the anti christ is till he has revealed himself..


Indeed. I firmly believe that the Antichrist will possess someone in power when he comes during one of their rituals.

If I were him, I'd keep several options open in case someone moves a pawn and stuffed up my plans.

For example, at this stage, I think Prince William is a prime candidate, but if a lot of people start believing that, another person will be selected.


i kinda think the same but maybe even the other brother. which countries represent the flags of your avatar? i count 10.....hmmmm



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 03:23 PM
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I find it interesting, OP, that you make the distinction between "real" creations and "illusion."
What is the difference, exactly?
Speaking quantumly, none of this is "real" in a true sense, more "in potentia", a wave collapsed by the act of observation.
Also, you really must make the distinction between "God the Father", and "The Living God."



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 03:25 PM
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God has nothing to do with you murderers and/or murder sympathizers. God doesn't have mercy on people killing indiscriminately. You will be judged by your acts. How despicable and shallow the religion has to be to lure young people into becoming suicide bombers with this pathetic pornographic promise of the next life with a bunch of virgins? It shows the level and the depth of the so called Islam.

Basically, it doesn't get over the level of the animalistic orgy.



posted on Nov, 13 2010 @ 04:46 PM
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Originally posted by CodyOutlaw
I find it interesting, OP, that you make the distinction between "real" creations and "illusion."
What is the difference, exactly?
Speaking quantumly, none of this is "real" in a true sense, more "in potentia", a wave collapsed by the act of observation.
Also, you really must make the distinction between "God the Father", and "The Living God."


Your eyes cannot differenciate an illusion from reality. It's just like in the movie "Inception", the "victims" do not know if they are living into a dream or in the real world.

If you obey God, you'll be able to differenciate reality from illusion. the Koran and God's guidance just work like the spinning top in the movie "Inception".

God's guidance is function of your obedience to God, and the Koran precisely details how to obey God. It's a perfect system which perfectly works. God is perfect.

Satan and the malicious Jinns are spiritual beings, they can create any illusion which is so strong that your sense cannot detect it (just like in Inception, Satan and his devils are the architects of the worlds of dream) .

I am just trying to wake up those can still wake up.

I really advocate the people over here to watch again "inception" with my present post in mind and you'll see if I am the crazy one.

I want to help you, I want to make you avoid the coming Punishment of God, be reasonable for your own sake. I can truly assure you that I have nothing to gain from you, my reward is all with God not with you.



posted on Nov, 14 2010 @ 06:46 AM
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Beamish, you said it brother.


Thank you, autowrench. There’s precious little logic – or facts – being used in this thread as it is; of course, I’ll be described as a demon or something akin to it and banished to hell (again) because I pointed out the lethal flaws in the OP’s concept.


Lets talk about facts.


Why not? TheTruthIsFromGod has used as “evidence” of his beliefs the claims of someone – Colleen the alien mom - who is patently either, in the first instance, unfortunately deluded, or, secondly cynically in it for the money. Probably a bit of both is my bet…

There is absolutely nothing in her claims that is based in fact yet, TheTruthIsFromGod blindly utilizes her fantasies to promote – and support the validity of – his beliefs.

And the really scary thing is, some people are agreeing with him. Amazing…

I still stand by my recent post, in that TheTruthIsFromGod is using the ATS forums to proselytize for his own particular form of religion.

And it doesn’t matter that he says he isn’t recruiting, because the fact that he is urging us to follow a particular theology – even if he doesn’t think it’s Islam (not that I have anything against Islam per se; I have the same problem with all religions) – he is absolutely trying to gain converts to a specific ideology with threats of damnation if you don’t do as he suggests.

That, to me, is solicitation.

I’m pretty damn sure that if I tried to post a thread that urged people to vote in a specific way, it’d be pulled in the blink of an eye.

I also believe that the only thing that is saving TheTruthIsFromGod’s online skin is that he is producing so much ludicrous and outmoded rhetoric.

The problem with that is he isn’t making any impression on anyone but the gullible and foolhardy ie. those who will believe anyone who shouts long and loud enough.



posted on Nov, 14 2010 @ 06:54 AM
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Love and light. More like gullible and bull****. I'm glad you seem to have a grasp on reality.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 12:38 AM
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Your opinion is your opinion. Your religion is your religion and I respect your right to choose. I however disagree with you. We are all God/ part of God and thereby co-creators. We have all just forgotten and some of us are in the process of remembering who we truely are. Each of us is Divine. We are spiritual beings going through the illusion of a physical manifestation. This experience is an illusion. I am tired of all the illusions. I am ONE with everything. I know this, but....the veil of forgetting is heavy. Be careful with your thoughts because they do create. It just takes time in this 3D world. PEACE.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 02:35 AM
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Originally posted by HUMBLEONE
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Your opinion is your opinion. Your religion is your religion and I respect your right to choose. I however disagree with you. We are all God/ part of God and thereby co-creators. We have all just forgotten and some of us are in the process of remembering who we truely are. Each of us is Divine. We are spiritual beings going through the illusion of a physical manifestation. This experience is an illusion. I am tired of all the illusions. I am ONE with everything. I know this, but....the veil of forgetting is heavy. Be careful with your thoughts because they do create. It just takes time in this 3D world. PEACE.


You're right, this life is an illusion and is not the real world, the real world is with God after the Judgement Day. This terrestrial life is just a test of admission for the human and Jinn species.

We are a young race and we're very ignorant and limited because of our short experience, this life is just to validate that we have understood the Golden Rule of life, to obey none but God, to never think that there can be an intermediary between we and God, nor other patrons beside God, nor sons, nor asscoiates who share the power of God. The one who has fully understood this conecept is the perfect human being in the eyes of God, the perfect creature of God.

God will provide to this kind of creature an infinite knowledge, wisdom, and other infinite gifts FOREVER, because God is infinite.

Don't seek to know the exact nature of God, you can just know a limited part of him, God will extend this part accordingly to your submission to him and to your comprehension of the matters, God can fully know you, but you cannot fully know him, he's God, he is the ONE, don't you get that?

Those who have get this lesson will be admited in the Kingdom of God and will be fully purified, those who have refused God as their sole Master will have no share in the Kingdom of God, the only possible place for them will be Hell. That's the Law of God and his law is perfect and perfectly fair.

Be humble and illustrate your nick name instead of challenging God, that's for your own sake.
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posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 06:35 AM
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Your signature says it all

"Surrender to the Master of the Universe and Obey his Holy Koran A Great award awaits the submitted ones whereas a Great Punishment awaits the rejectors."

Translates to, "Do as I say or you will suffer", how is that merciful?

How can God be full of mercy? Sounds like a vengeful dictator to me. You claim no-one is forcing us to worship God, but the whole premise of obeying God or burning for eternity illustrates that. If you are Religious, you have to believe without question, you are forced to believe without question, it's a dictatorship. All things should be questioned.

Peace :-)



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by Shminkee Pinkee
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Your signature says it all

"Surrender to the Master of the Universe and Obey his Holy Koran A Great award awaits the submitted ones whereas a Great Punishment awaits the rejectors."

Translates to, "Do as I say or you will suffer", how is that merciful?

How can God be full of mercy? Sounds like a vengeful dictator to me. You claim no-one is forcing us to worship God, but the whole premise of obeying God or burning for eternity illustrates that. If you are Religious, you have to believe without question, you are forced to believe without question, it's a dictatorship. All things should be questioned.

Peace :-)


You've never considered that I am telling you the Truth, that I am providing you a true and fair warning from your Creator and mine.

God is full of mercy by providing you clear warnings before to let the full consequencies of your actions fall on you.
God has never be unfair with people, that^s the people who are unfair with themselves. You're at the origin of your own misery.

You seem to seek only opposition.

For your own good, just reconsider my warnings... Just submit to your Master, Creator and Benefactor. God has created you when you did not exist yet, God has created this wonderful universe in which you live, are you not thanksful?

Wake up!!!



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 07:18 AM
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Have you ever considered that you might not be telling the truth? Have you ever considered you may be wrong? Have you ever considered that everything you believe in is fiction and the result of a creative Human mind?

You make assumptions about anyone who criticises, or disagrees with you, therefore I can only conclude that you only hear what you want to hear and see what you want see. I mean no dis-respect in this, it's just the way yourself and countless other blind religious zealots come across, regardless of whether you are Jewish, Muslim, Christian, Jehovah's Witnesses, whatever, apparently you are all telling the Truth, well you can't all be telling the Truth, because you all tell different stories, that have some similarities but clash on what seem to be the important bits, and contradict each other. there are many example and sure someone with both the time and inclination can point these out to you, i have neither.

If, and I mean 'If'- God made the universe and everything in it, why would he make Mankind so flawed if we are supposed to be made in his flawless image? Why did he give us free will, there-in the choice to believe in him or not? Why? because in my opinion, I believe he didn't do any of this. An all knowing super natural being with powers such as his would not, punish his creations for being too stupid to understand his message, he would teach them properly like a true parent would, he wouldn't act like a self righteous dictator with a chip on his shoulder, as he is meant to be perfect. I got to this conclusion by not refusing anyone or anythings message, but by thinking about it logically and coming to My own conclusions.

Plus There are not dinosaurs in the bible, not being a student of the Torah or the Koran, I can't say that there are, or are not any dinosaurs in both of those books, but I'll wager they aren't any.


Peace :-)



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 08:38 AM
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You see, you're only seeking opposition, whether God warns you or not, you'll not accept his warnings. That's ok for me, good luck.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 08:44 AM
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and you are only hearing and seeing what you want to hear, whilst making self righteous assumptions and casting aspersions on people who disagree, the prosecution rests M'lud :-)


It would have been nice to hear you answer some of the questions I had, but hey we live in hope

Peace :-)



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by Shminkee Pinkee
Have you ever considered that you might not be telling the truth? Have you ever considered you may be wrong? Have you ever considered that everything you believe in is fiction and the result of a creative Human mind?

He's been told that over and over. He's been shown the FACTS about the origins of his Qu'ran .. and the contradictions .. and the errors. But he refuses to see that what he's pumping out isn't from God, but is instead from misogynistic bloodthirsty cultists who were off their rocker and power crazy at the same time. (not a good combo to say the least).

He's been indoctrinated into a cult.
Indoctrination - teaching someone to accept doctrines uncritically
His mind has been indoctrinated so he can't view the qu'ran in a common sense critical manner.
Those indoctrinated can't see the obvious errors and contradictions. They are blind to them.
A critical examination of the facts is impossible for an indoctrinated person.

Indoctrination definitions and explaination


Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas, attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodology (see doctrine).[1] It is often distinguished from education by the fact that the indoctrinated person is expected not to question or critically examine the doctrine they have learned.[2] As such it is used pejoratively, often in the context of political opinions, theology or religious dogma.


Those who are indoctrinated are self deceptive and incapable of logical discussion.
Self Deception

Self-deception is a process of denying or rationalizing away the relevance, significance, or importance of opposing evidence and logical argument. Self-deception involves convincing oneself of a truth (or lack of truth) so that one does not reveal any self-knowledge of the deception.


Look familiar?
It's no use talking to a person in this state to try to get them to see rational logic or fact.
edit on 11/15/2010 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by Shminkee Pinkee
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and you are only hearing and seeing what you want to hear, whilst making self righteous assumptions and casting aspersions on people who disagree, the prosecution rests M'lud :-)


It would have been nice to hear you answer some of the questions I had, but hey we live in hope

Peace :-)


Just put you at my place for 1 second:

I am a true warner, my warnings are truly from God, how can you expect that I deny the very same mission I've been sent for?

It would be a total failure and God's plan never fails. God wants you to get these warnings either you believe in them or not. For my part, I believe in the promise of God.



posted on Nov, 15 2010 @ 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
my warnings are truly from God, how can you expect that I deny the very same mission I've been sent for? .

.. oh .. and there's the delusional messiah complex part as well.
ATS thread - Messiah Complex
Messiah Complex information

A messiah complex is a state of mind in which an individual holds a belief they are, or is destined to become, a savior.

A savior .. a special mission from God that only they can fulfill ... but to the rational people it is obvious that the 'mission' is something that obviously isn't from God ... something like pushing a cult that claims it's from God but also says God told them (in their 'holy book) to beat women and have sex slaves.
And then there is the delusional disorder
Grandiose religious delusions ... kinda looks that way.
Can't be diagnosed online, obviously, but a psychiatrist could have a field day with all this.



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